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  1. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    Everyone should be scared of Obama the Liar.
    Obama's mom [[anarchist annie) was a radical marxist,
    Obama's grandparents went to 'the little red church' locally thought of as a leftist church
    Obama who went to the terrorist william ayers house for a political meeting and did speeches with him.
    His mom moved to Indonesia and married a second non-white man, and giving birth to a half-Indonesian daughter. Barack was sent to an Islamic religious school while they lived in Indonesia.
    Who wrote Obama's book? he sure as hell didn't

    Yes everyone, except commie sympathizers should be very scared of Obama

    This is such a load of fascist bullcrap. I won't even bother to list the reasons why. Just go away, please.

  2. #27
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    Thank you Lorax....a beautiful example of liberal denial. You even threw in another instance of your focal reverse dyslexia for the word "fascist". Focal meaning one word, reverse meaning it is wrongly applied to examples of the opposite, and dyslexia meaning you can't grasp the word in any way shape or form.

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejames01 View Post
    The links you provide are friggin blogs. Are you f*ckin serious?!?!?!?! If you are looking for "facts", try looking for legitimate news organizations or peer review articles.
    The Gallup Organization is a blog?

    Did you actually read the links, or just write down a knee-jerk reaction to sound remotely knowledgeable?

  4. #29

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    I'm glad you all Americans voted for Obama for change, SOCIALIST CHANGE! It's like appointing Vladimir Lenin to become President of The United States. You all could easily compared Obama with Lenin bringing for pre-soviet culture to the American People. Well folks deal with it. Your 'Premier' of the United States of 'Amerika' is reforming health care for the better and I'm supporting it. I little state socialism in health care won't hear a bit.

    WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

    God bless 'Amerika' COMRADS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    I'm glad you all Americans voted for Obama for change, SOCIALIST CHANGE! It's like appointing Vladimir Lenin to become President of The United States. You all could easily compared Obama with Lenin bringing for pre-soviet culture to the American People. Well folks deal with it. Your 'Premier' of the United States of 'Amerika' is reforming health care for the better and I'm supporting it. I little state socialism in health care won't hear a bit.

    WORD FROM THE STREET PROPHET

    God bless 'Amerika' COMRADS!
    Really?

    I guess,

    that these people,

    didn't get that same memo?

    And just wait until Congress' little vacation is over...

  6. #31

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    While the children shit their diapers again, it takes about 90 seconds to find this on Wikipedia:

    Political evolution

    Jones started his career as a staunch critic of capitalism; his outrage over the Rodney King verdict radicalized him to the point where he declared himself a communist [[he has since renounced these views) and actively began protesting police brutality.[17] He later got involved with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement [[STORM), a collective which "dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia". According to former employer Eva Patterson, Jones later "jettisoned his youthful notions and moved on to seek more effective and attainable solutions."[18] Frustrated keeping coalitions together to make positive social change, Jones "discarded the hostility and antagonism with which he had previously greeted the world, which he said was part of the ego-driven romance of being seen as a revolutionary." "Before, we would fight anybody, any time," Jones says of his transformation. "No concession was good enough; we never said 'Thank you.' Now, I put the issues and constituencies first. I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward. ... I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends".[17] Jones ended his involvement with STORM [[and STORM officially dissolved in December 2002).[19]
    By the late 1990s, Jones began promoting capitalism as he transformed into an environmentally friendly capitalist. He emerged as one of the foremost champions of green business, entrepreneurship and market-based solutions. In his 2008 best seller The Green Collar Economy, Jones contended that invention and investment will take us out of a pollution-based grey economy and into a healthy new green economy.[20] Jones wrote:
    [W]e are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.
    So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs — and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world —and everyone else.


    SOURCES:

    17. Strickland, Eliza [[2005-11-02). "The New Face of Environmentalism". East Bay Express. http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyroba...wFullText=true. Retrieved 2009-08-26.

    18. Patterson, Eva [[2009-08-28). "Glenn Beck's Attack On Van Jones: Fantasies and Falsehoods". Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eva-pa..._b_271518.html. Retrieved 2009-08-30.

    19. Reclaiming Revolution: History, Summation, and Lessons from the Work of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement [[STORM) [1]

    20. Jones, Van [[2008). The Green Collar Economy. New York: HarperOne. ISBN 978-0-06-165075-8.


    Then, of course, this is the same Mr. Jones who won the Hubert H. Humphrey Civil Rights Award in 2009, presented to those who best exemplify selfless and devoted service in the cause of equality.

    Now, what have you ever done for anyone besides your damned self?

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    While the children shit their diapers again, it takes about 90 seconds to find this on Wikipedia:

    Political evolution

    Jones started his career as a staunch critic of capitalism; his outrage over the Rodney King verdict radicalized him to the point where he declared himself a communist [[he has since renounced these views) and actively began protesting police brutality.[17] He later got involved with Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement [[STORM), a collective which "dreamed of a multiracial socialist utopia". According to former employer Eva Patterson, Jones later "jettisoned his youthful notions and moved on to seek more effective and attainable solutions."[18] Frustrated keeping coalitions together to make positive social change, Jones "discarded the hostility and antagonism with which he had previously greeted the world, which he said was part of the ego-driven romance of being seen as a revolutionary." "Before, we would fight anybody, any time," Jones says of his transformation. "No concession was good enough; we never said 'Thank you.' Now, I put the issues and constituencies first. I'll work with anybody, I'll fight anybody if it will push our issues forward. ... I'm willing to forgo the cheap satisfaction of the radical pose for the deep satisfaction of radical ends".[17] Jones ended his involvement with STORM [[and STORM officially dissolved in December 2002).[19]
    By the late 1990s, Jones began promoting capitalism as he transformed into an environmentally friendly capitalist. He emerged as one of the foremost champions of green business, entrepreneurship and market-based solutions. In his 2008 best seller The Green Collar Economy, Jones contended that invention and investment will take us out of a pollution-based grey economy and into a healthy new green economy.[20] Jones wrote:
    [W]e are entering an era during which our very survival will demand invention and innovation on a scale never before seen in the history of human civilization. Only the business community has the requisite skills, experience, and capital to meet that need. On that score, neither government nor the nonprofit and voluntary sectors can compete, not even remotely.
    So in the end, our success and survival as a species are largely and directly tied to the new eco-entrepreneurs — and the success and survival of their enterprises. Since almost all of the needed eco-technologies are likely to come from the private sector, civic leaders and voters should do all that can be done to help green business leaders succeed. That means, in large part, electing leaders who will pass bills to aid them. We cannot realistically proceed without a strong alliance between the best of the business world —and everyone else.


    SOURCES:

    17. Strickland, Eliza [[2005-11-02). "The New Face of Environmentalism". East Bay Express. http://www.eastbayexpress.com/gyroba...wFullText=true. Retrieved 2009-08-26.

    18. Patterson, Eva [[2009-08-28). "Glenn Beck's Attack On Van Jones: Fantasies and Falsehoods". Huffington Post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eva-pa..._b_271518.html. Retrieved 2009-08-30.

    19. Reclaiming Revolution: History, Summation, and Lessons from the Work of Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement [[STORM) [1]

    20. Jones, Van [[2008). The Green Collar Economy. New York: HarperOne. ISBN 978-0-06-165075-8.


    Then, of course, this is the same Mr. Jones who won the Hubert H. Humphrey Civil Rights Award in 2009, presented to those who best exemplify selfless and devoted service in the cause of equality.

    Now, what have you ever done for anyone besides your damned self?
    I'll tell you what, you can either go to Wiki, or you can hear it from the man himself:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVNtoAiOh1k

  8. #33
    ccbatson Guest

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    How do liberals react to these raw video and audio clips straight from the person in question I wonder? There is no denying it, and these particular bits are so radical that they can't be spun into anything else. All that is left is to agree [[and take the position of a radical/communist), or wake up and recognize what these folks are all about.

  9. #34
    Lorax Guest

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    Oh, grow up you cry babies.

    You lost the election, get over it.

  10. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4real View Post
    Everyone should be scared of Obama the Liar.
    Obama's mom [[anarchist annie) was a radical marxist,
    Obama's grandparents went to 'the little red church' locally thought of as a leftist church
    Obama who went to the terrorist william ayers house for a political meeting and did speeches with him.
    His mom moved to Indonesia and married a second non-white man, and giving birth to a half-Indonesian daughter. Barack was sent to an Islamic religious school while they lived in Indonesia.
    Who wrote Obama's book? he sure as hell didn't

    Yes everyone, except commie sympathizers should be very scared of Obama
    And yet 4Sarcasm has yet to provide any credible sources[[not some radical right wing blog) for his/her blatant lies?

    When will this troll be banned, as he/she provide nothing of substance to the topic, they just throw a Molotov cocktail into the conversation
    Last edited by Detroitej72; August-31-09 at 09:34 PM.

  11. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccbatson View Post
    How do liberals react to these raw video and audio clips straight from the person in question I wonder? There is no denying it, and these particular bits are so radical that they can't be spun into anything else. All that is left is to agree [[and take the position of a radical/communist), or wake up and recognize what these folks are all about.

    it ain't raw when it's edited, and the vast majority video posted, whether from extreme right-wingers or center-right [[dems) or from the actual left, are

  12. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    it ain't raw when it's edited, and the vast majority video posted, whether from extreme right-wingers or center-right [[dems) or from the actual left, are
    And this was edited by whom?

    Here's a hint.

  13. #38

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCP-001 View Post
    And this was edited by whom?

    Here's a hint.
    I can't watch Youtube stuff.

    I would like to hear exactly what the wingnuts object to in the speech, so if anyone can find a legit transcript...
    Last edited by rb336; September-01-09 at 09:41 AM.

  14. #39

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    I can't watch Youtube stuff.

    I would like to hear exactly what the wingnuts object to in the speech, so if anyone can find a legit transcript...
    If you're not willing to review the material, and you don't care for the position from the posters, then why are you asking for the Cliff Notes version?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCP-001 View Post
    If you're not willing to review the material, and you don't care for the position from the posters, then why are you asking for the Cliff Notes version?
    i'd love to, just can't watch youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCP-001 View Post
    If you're not willing to review the material, and you don't care for the position from the posters, then why are you asking for the Cliff Notes version?
    You're smart enough to formulate a cogent argument, aren't you?

    Or are you going to keep playing "Here's video clip that pisses me off. Guess why."

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettopalmetto View Post
    You're smart enough to formulate a cogent argument, aren't you?

    Or are you going to keep playing "Here's video clip that pisses me off. Guess why."
    You can't be that obtuse.

    If you're unwilling to watch the clip and then explaining the inconsistencies with what the man said and what you had posted above, why are you wasting our time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    it ain't raw when it's edited, and the vast majority video posted, whether from extreme right-wingers or center-right [[dems) or from the actual left, are
    There's notjobs on both sides,
    it's time to start holding these people accountable, and boot them out of Washington.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCP-001 View Post
    You can't be that obtuse.

    If you're unwilling to watch the clip and then explaining the inconsistencies with what the man said and what you had posted above, why are you wasting our time?
    I'm not the one who has the problem with Van Jones. Bear your own burden, chief.

  20. #45

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    Don't flatter yourself.

    I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy in the person that you hold so highly between what he claims and what he really said.

  21. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCP-001 View Post
    Don't flatter yourself.

    I'm only pointing out the hypocrisy in the person that you hold so highly between what he claims and what he really said.
    where, exactly, is the hypocrisy? you say it, but you won't support it except via a rather long video most of us do not have time to watch.

  22. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by rb336 View Post
    where, exactly, is the hypocrisy? you say it, but you won't support it except via a rather long video most of us do not have time to watch.
    Okay, this is going to turn into a circular argument.

    You claim that this guy has reformed himself and is now pure as the driven snow.

    I point out that is incorrect, and include a VERY recent video to back that up.

    You cannot/will not watch it, then expect me to provide a synopsis of a video.

    If I do, you'll knock my synopsis, because the video contradicts your opinion of him, which you cannot/will not accept.

    Rinse & repeat.

    Sorry, I'm not going to play that game.

    I've seen the video.

    If you don't want to educate yourselves on the issues, then I fail to see any point in continuing.

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    MCP is taking his balls and going home.

    I don't even think you understand the point you're trying to make in this thread. I think you just see flashes of light and hear blips of sounds, and your ranting is just an epileptic response to the FEAR that dominates your day-in, day-out existence.

    When we get to September 12 without 3000 innocent Americans dying, will you stop being so chickenshit?

  24. #49
    ccbatson Guest

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    My G-d! Would you look at Rb squirm? Reminds me of a particularly stubborn fish that refuses to be caught [[but ultimately is).

  25. #50
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    This guy has been exposed as another blame white people for everything racist but unfortunately the media will just ignore it.

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