Harvey Weinstein Allegations Incoming...

[jcole]

On the subject of allegations.

The accuser in the Moore case admitted on the today show that she added words to the yearbook entry that was used as evidence.

In an interview she said,at the time she viewed dating him as a badge of honor,25 years later she appeared to be more angry about her not being the only one,or her first love jilted her kinda angry.

It was wrong for him to be 30 dating her but women at that age are far more mature then men or boys of equal age,would she not be aware that it was also wrong on her part?

She was 14; it's not up to her to know right from wrong. Even at 16, it wasn't her that had a problem. I'm gathering you don't have teen age daughters so you don't know how vulnerable they are to attention from an older man?

[Zacha341]

Well he lost the election... more to come 'til the final torches circle about Trump. The allegations may or may not drop off at that point. Hard to tell. Many had to fall to get to the top -- without partisan prejudice the argument will go.

What about VP Pence? He best start a reflective evaluation of any possible skeletons, or ravens in his closet.

It was wrong for him to be 30 dating her but women at that age are far more mature then men or boys of equal age,would she not be aware that it was also wrong on her part?

[Zacha341]

Very vulnerable. The older man or woman engaging a young teen has the intellectual and emotional advantage, clearly.

That's part of the attraction set [[hook) so applied.

Throw in the sexual aspect - done deal. Adults need to stay with adults.

She was 14; it's not up to her to know right from wrong. Even at 16, it wasn't her that had a problem. I'm gathering you don't have teen age daughters so you don't know how vulnerable they are to attention from an older man?

[Richard]

She was 14; it's not up to her to know right from wrong. Even at 16, it wasn't her that had a problem. I'm gathering you don't have teen age daughters so you don't know how vulnerable they are to attention from an older man?

My daughter is 30 something,I taught her the difference between right and wrong and values,because it was my responsibility as a parent,there would have been no way in the world she could have dated anybody for 4 years without my knowledge.Overaged or not.

My granddaughters are 11 and 12 and thier mother has taught them the same way,they know the difference between right and wrong,I guess if you just throw your kids out there in the world with no fiber it can become a harsh learning experience.

Have you seen the poplular kids shows and movies lately? Far cry from leave it to beaver or father knows best,nothing is off of the table anymore.

[Richard]

Well he lost the election... more to come 'til the final torches circle about Trump. The allegations may or may not drop off at that point. Hard to tell. Many had to fall to get to the top -- without partisan prejudice the argument will go.

What about VP Pence? He best start a reflective evaluation of any possible skeletons, or ravens in his closet.

It has turned into a witch hunt,the one said,he kissed me on the lips when I was his secretary,no slap in return,stayed with the job as a secretary which is not exactly a high paid position and brings it up 20 years later.

What about all the office parties that had mistletoe? One could keep lawyers busy for the next 30 years.

[canuck]

My daughter is 30 something,I taught her the difference between right and wrong and values,because it was my responsibility as a parent,there would have been no way in the world she could have dated anybody for 4 years without my knowledge.Overaged or not.

My granddaughters are 11 and 12 and thier mother has taught them the same way,they know the difference between right and wrong,I guess if you just throw your kids out there in the world with no fiber it can become a harsh learning experience.

Have you seen the poplular kids shows and movies lately? Far cry from leave it to beaver or father knows best,nothing is off of the table anymore.

Moore is out. The senate is now a different beast.

Anybody in a position of power, with an ascendancy over a pupil, employee, or junior athlete that takes advantage of such dominance needs to be punished. Female or male teachers, bosses, politicians, movie producers all need to be accountable.

Oh, and em...14 year old girls. Leave them alone.

[Richard]

Moore is out. The senate is now a different beast.

Anybody in a position of power, with an ascendancy over a pupil, employee, or junior athlete that takes advantage of such dominance needs to be punished. Female or male teachers, bosses, politicians, movie producers all need to be accountable.

Oh, and em...14 year old girls. Leave them alone.

Shocking but I agree 100% But,and there is always that but,let's have the legal system deal with them verses the court of public opinion,allegations can be made ruining lives then proved false before.

You have to admit weapon wise it is a powerful tool and could very easily be used nefariously.

With social media an allegation could be named today,millions will see it and tomorrow it could be disproved and few will see it,but somebody will still be guilty in their mind.

We also rally for some immigrants where in their culture 14 is marrying age,if we speak out against them will we be labeled anti immigration and racist?

Even though I owned strip clubs and nightclubs in the past,I knew few women that would agree to meet a man in his hotel room,that is what the lobby or lounge is for,let alone the second time after the first encounter was detrimental.

Not victim blaming but if you know the water is hot,do not stick your finger in it,or have a little bit of personal responsibility to not put oneself into positions that may be uncomfortable.

[Richard]

Salma Hayek is now say that Harvey is a pig because he forced her to do a nude sex scene with another woman in the movie Frida.

She did not look to forced mixing with Antonio Banderas in desperado,or pretty much any other movie she has been in.

She also won milf of the year award and her full nude portrait is viewable to millions in the internet.

There was a well liked porn star that recently committed suicide,she made many movies,her thing was that she would never do any scenes with another female,but yet she went on to be in over 50 films.

It is kinda hard to see the difference between the two industries,Harvey may be a pig but it seems like many others are no different,if selling your soul for notoriety is what one does,they should just live with it.

[aj3647]

Salma Hayek is now say that Harvey is a pig because he forced her to do a nude sex scene with another woman in the movie Frida.

She did not look to forced mixing with Antonio Banderas in desperado,or pretty much any other movie she has been in.

She also won milf of the year award and her full nude portrait is viewable to millions in the internet.

There was a well liked porn star that recently committed suicide,she made many movies,her thing was that she would never do any scenes with another female,but yet she went on to be in over 50 films.

It is kinda hard to see the difference between the two industries,Harvey may be a pig but it seems like many others are no different,if selling your soul for notoriety is what one does,they should just live with it.

You certainly seem to be extremely knowledgeable about the porn industry and celebrity nude scenes. I bet a renewal of your Mr. Skin subscription is at the top of your Christmas wish list.

[Richard]

You certainly seem to be extremely knowledgeable about the porn industry and celebrity nude scenes. I bet a renewal of your Mr. Skin subscription is at the top of your Christmas wish list.

I just figured you could add me to your account,I was going to get you a President Trump bobble head for your dash but they seem to be backordered due to high demand.So I am at a loss now.

Interesting enough the pictures are on a Jihad site,they post pictures while discussing how disgusting western women are but I think it is a cover to actually view porn without saying they are looking at it.

[Zacha341]

I told/ warned my kids male and female to be wary of sexual predators of all genders these days. Be on the look out for temptation and being vulnerable. And yeah I've always wondered about the nut-case grown men who get busted for the law-enforcement 'decoy-of-the-14 year old'!

There was a reality show years back when the internet was just taking off capturing via camera the grown jerks actually showing up the apartment or house, park, etc. to meet the teen. The looks on their faces when the cops and cameras came forth was incredible -- not as much as their justification in some case for their thwarted intentions.

Anybody in a position of power, with an ascendancy over a pupil, employee, or junior athlete that takes advantage of such dominance needs to be punished. Female or male teachers, bosses, politicians, movie producers all need to be accountable.

Oh, and em...14 year old girls. Leave them alone.

[Richard]

I told/ warned my kids male and female to be wary of sexual predators of all genders these days. Be on the look out for temptation and being vulnerable. And yeah I've always wondered about the nut-case grown men who get busted for the law-enforcement 'decoy-of-the-14 year old'!

There was a reality show years back when the internet was just taking off capturing via camera the grown jerks actually showing up the apartment or house, park, etc. to meet the teen. The looks on their faces when the cops and cameras came forth was incredible -- not as much as their justification in some case for their thwarted intentions.

The "To catch a predator" series,I think in those cases they should have just used 5 gallon buckets,a little bit of concrete and swimming lessons.

I wonder how may parents anymore have that talk with their children,most cannot seem to pry their children away from their iPads for 5 minutes.

Handling situations that may come up can have better results if one is prepared.

When my kids were 7 I took them to the gun range and showed them exactly what a gun was and what it does.Of course it was successfuly used against me in grounds for divorce,but they knew how and what to expect if they were at a friends house when it came to weapons anyways.

[aj3647]

Remember how Republicans used Weinstein as a political weapon, highlighting his social ties to the "liberal elite" and demanding the Democrats return any donations they received from him? [[Which they did, BTW)

Wellllllll, that didn't take long to come back to bite the Republicans in the ass as the shoe is now on the other foot. The GOP now has their own "Harvey Weinstein" in Las Vegas casino magnate and billionaire Steve Wynn.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/27/u...signation.html

Dozens of women have come forward to accuse Wynn of sexual misconduct spanning decades, everything from simple harassment to forcible rape.

Wynn, as you may know, is a major Republican donor and was the Finance Chairman of the RNC, in charge of fundraising for the entire Republican Party. He's also personal friends with Donald Trump.

So given the political grandstanding that the Republicans did over Weinstein, we could expect them to be equally as vocal in denouncing this rapist, right? Wrong. Republicans, although quietly starting to return or donate to charity money given to them by Wynn, have stayed eerily silent. As has Donald Trump, who personally selected Wynn to be RNC Finance Chairman as a reward for Wynn's support during the primaries.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/busine...126-story.html

So I think all of us here can unite in denouncing this man and demanding the GOP publicly denounce him as well [[since he was one of the top officials in the Republican Party and one of their biggest donors). And Trump should also publicly cut ties with Wynn and denounce him. Agreed?

[Richard]

Lol you guys had no problem supporting Hillary when she had a perv in her high up,do you think the president wears matching socks?

Collect all of those tears and you could grow crops in the desert.

[aj3647]

Lol you guys had no problem supporting Hillary when she had a perv in her high up,do you think the president wears matching socks?

Collect all of those tears and you could grow crops in the desert.

Answer the question, should the GOP and the President publicly denounce Wynn and return all of his money, yes or no? Please answer the question without feeling the impulsive need to bring up your obsession with Hillary Clinton.

Anyways, back to the topic, the RNC has said it will KEEP Wynn's money until he has been convicted of a crime.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/371369-rnc-will

This, of course, is NOT the same standard they applied to Harvey Weinstein, who also has not yet been convicted of a single crime.

Keeping the money of a rapist, the GOP shows its true colors. Democrats returned Weinstein's money, Republicans are keeping Wynn's.

[GMan]

This, of course, is NOT the same standard they applied to Harvey Weinstein, who also has not yet been convicted of a single crime.

Keeping the money of a rapist, the GOP shows its true colors. Democrats returned Weinstein's money, Republicans are keeping Wynn's.

Nor the same standard that Roy Moore was held to. The media's message was the jury on that one.

[aj3647]

Nor the same standard that Roy Moore was held to. The media's message was the jury on that one.

Moore was held to the same "standard" that Republicans held for Harvey Weinstein and every other "Hollywood liberal" caught up in a sex scandal. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, unless you're a Republican, it seems.

Fact remains, Romney-Daniels and the RNC are keeping Steve Wynn's money. The DNC returned Weinstein's money or donated it to charity. Two identical situations, two polar opposite responses.

We'll just have to wait and see which one the voters prefer come November.

[Maof]

do you think the president wears matching socks?

well, we do know he likes to run around in his tighty whities with porn stars and grab woman by the p*****.

[Richard]

He said you can,he never said he actually did it.

There was a club in the U.K.,they would meet once a year as a charity event to raise funds for a children fund,they raised 25 million in 5 years.

It was all men and women would be hired to serve drinks,$250 for the four hours,their uniforms were maybe a bit revealing but they were well aware of the attire when they were hired on and many had been doing it for the 5 years.

So a reporter goes undercover and discovers this,in conversations with the other girls they told her that men would occasionally grab their rear end and there was a case of one exposeing himself in 5 years.Casual conversation they did not know she was undercover.

The reporter makes a story about it and the club is disbanded under public pressure.

The girls working there said they knew what to expect and they came back year after year and did not have an issue with it,but somebody else made that decision for them and acting in what they felt was in their best interest.

Was that right?

There are women that will trade sex for a line of cocaine and there are woman that have no problem letting somebody grab at the nether regions for a chance to brush with power and money.

I was raised women were prim and proper and should be treated with respect but life taught me that there are just as many nasty women out there as there are nasty men.

Women attending a rally with a large female part strapped to their head should be considered what?

Women walking down the red carpet pretty much nude in front of millions should be considered what?

Porn actors are not operating solo,maybe sometimes,but for the most part it takes two,or three or four to tango.

People are upset because he said he could do something to somebody that would have no problem allowing him to do it in the first place.

So what's the beef?

I am just happy that as a man,I can now use the women's restroom if the men's has a line and it is perfectly leagle.

Proper morals and values went out of the door years ago,so it is kinda hard to get upset at anybody that does not follow the ones that are kept as an individual.

So President elect has a conversation in a locker room years ago about grabbing a cat that there is no evidence that he actually did it.

The last women's march in DC over the weekend had a guest speaker feminist that spent 27 years in prison.

Her and two others kidnaped a business man and beat,tortured,and raped him for 20 straight days before the ransom was paid.

That is the chosen role model for the woman's movement and people are winging about nether region grabbing.

Yep we've got our priorities straight.

[Maof]

He said you can,he never said he actually did it.

There was a club in the U.K.,they would meet once a year as a charity event to raise funds for a children fund,they raised 25 million in 5 years.

It was all men and women would be hired to serve drinks,$250 for the four hours,their uniforms were maybe a bit revealing but they were well aware of the attire when they were hired on and many had been doing it for the 5 years.

So a reporter goes undercover and discovers this,in conversations with the other girls they told her that men would occasionally grab their rear end and there was a case of one exposeing himself in 5 years.Casual conversation they did not know she was undercover.

The reporter makes a story about it and the club is disbanded under public pressure.

The girls working there said they knew what to expect and they came back year after year and did not have an issue with it,but somebody else made that decision for them and acting in what they felt was in their best interest.

Was that right?

There are women that will trade sex for a line of cocaine and there are woman that have no problem letting somebody grab at the nether regions for a chance to brush with power and money.

I was raised women were prim and proper and should be treated with respect but life taught me that there are just as many nasty women out there as there are nasty men.

Women attending a rally with a large female part strapped to their head should be considered what?

Women walking down the red carpet pretty much nude in front of millions should be considered what?

Porn actors are not operating solo,maybe sometimes,but for the most part it takes two,or three or four to tango.

People are upset because he said he could do something to somebody that would have no problem allowing him to do it in the first place.

So what's the beef?

I am just happy that as a man,I can now use the women's restroom if the men's has a line and it is perfectly leagle.

Proper morals and values went out of the door years ago,so it is kinda hard to get upset at anybody that does not follow the ones that are kept as an individual.

So President elect has a conversation in a locker room years ago about grabbing a cat that there is no evidence that he actually did it.

The last women's march in DC over the weekend had a guest speaker feminist that spent 27 years in prison.

Her and two others kidnaped a business man and beat,tortured,and raped him for 20 straight days before the ransom was paid.

That is the chosen role model for the woman's movement and people are winging about nether region grabbing.

Yep we've got our priorities straight.

You're serious? I don't have time to read a full page of you trying come up with different scenario's to justify what DT "can" and mostly likely did. You may think proper morals and values went out the door years ago but not it my book.

[Richard]

You're serious? I don't have time to read a full page of you trying come up with different scenario's to justify what DT "can" and mostly likely did. You may think proper morals and values went out the door years ago but not it my book.

So you are saying the hype is based on what he most likely did and not based on facts?

Somebody is most likely to speed in their lifetime so let's issiue tickets,totally irrelevant weather they actually will.

And your asking me if I am serious?

No they may not have went out of the door in yours or my book but the world does not read my book and follow my morals,now if I could clone myself to replace everybody in the world then it would be a perfect world.

But that is the dictatorship love aspect oozing out,everybody follows a train of thought commanded by the government,individualism not allowed.

[GMan]

Moore was held to the same "standard" that Republicans held for Harvey Weinstein and every other "Hollywood liberal" caught up in a sex scandal. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, unless you're a Republican, it seems.
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come November.

Yes Weinstein was sacrificed to take Moore down. The narrative started with Harvey. And yes, both men should have their day in the court of law instead of the court of public opinion.

[aj3647]

Yes Weinstein was sacrificed to take Moore down. The narrative started with Harvey. And yes, both men should have their day in the court of law instead of the court of public opinion.

So you concede then that Roy Moore [[and now Steve Wynn) are not being held to any different standard than Fox News and Breitbart held Harvey Weinstein to. Or Kevin Spacey. Or a dozen other "Hollywood liberals." I seem to recall, well before Roy Moore was entangled in his own web of accusations, that Fox News/Breitbart/Right Wing media were absolutely beside themselves with pure glee as they went after Weinstein and Spacey and others with both barrels blazing. And, to be honest, the "liberal" media pretty much did the same thing.

Of course, neither of those two men have been charged, let alone convicted of a crime, and yet the "let them be judged in the court of law and not the court of public opinion" argument only seems to come up when the person being accused of misconduct is a conservative. Weird. I certainly didn't see you saying that Weinstein "should have his day in the court of law instead of the court of public opinion" on pages 1, 2, or 3 of this very thread when Richard, oladub, and the rest of the usual suspects were throwing a party and reveling in the downfall of Weinstein. But as soon as a few Republicans get nabbed, all of a sudden it's whoa, let's slow down and not be so quick to judge...

[jcole]

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Women attending a rally with a large female part strapped to their head should be considered what?

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I really wish the people that want to take women to task for "Pussy Hats" would try to get straight what they really are. They are NOT a woman's body part, they are pink hats with kitten ears. They represent "grab 'em by the pussy" as stated by 45. They are NOT vaginas. Kitty ears = pussy cat. This is the common misconception. Get your "facts" straight before you try to use them to insult us.

[Honky Tonk]

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