Welcome to Bernie/Independent/Third Party Land

**Pam** · September-27-17, 10:58 AM

Even though Bernie Sanders ran as a Dem in 2016, he has been representing his state of Vermont as an Indie. I thought he should get his own section. Any other Indie/3rd party stuff can also go here.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...cassidy-debate

Monday night's debate was unlikely to change anybody's mind. Amy Klobuchar offered pointed criticism of Graham-Cassidy, including its failure to protect patients with pre-existing conditions, but the evening belonged to Bernie Sanders, who not only made a passionate case for single-payer but proved himself quite adept at defending Obamacare as well. So much for centrist Democrats' concerns that he might sabotage the party's efforts to block a Republican health care bill.

**GMan** · September-27-17, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Pam

Even though Bernie Sanders ran as a Dem in 2016, he has been representing his state of Vermont as an Indie. I thought he should get his own section. Any other Indie/3rd party stuff can also go here.

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-pol...cassidy-debate

There is sure to be a lot of cross over material in here.
look forward to reading.

Just think we had two independents running under different party systems for the office of president. One had the nomination rigged against him and the other stole it despite that party's meddling.

**KJ5** · September-29-17, 12:44 AM

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. I came up with a great slogan for Bernie if he runs in 2020. I like Tulsi Gabbard better myself but I think he could definitely win with this. I'd rock it on a T-shirt.

**coracle** · September-29-17, 05:14 AM

KJ5.
How about - "PLEASE BERNIE, JUST DO IT; PLEASE"

**Pam** · September-29-17, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by KJ5

. I came up with a great slogan for Bernie if he runs in 2020. I like Tulsi Gabbard better myself but I think he could definitely win with this. I'd rock it on a T-shirt.

I like how Hillary said that about him like it's supposed to be a slam. He's what a Democrat is supposed to be. If he runs again, he should run third party. The Dems will just cheat him again if he runs as a Dem. The Clintonites are still in charge.

**313WX** · October-01-17, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by KJ5

. I came up with a great slogan for Bernie if he runs in 2020. I like Tulsi Gabbard better myself but I think he could definitely win with this. I'd rock it on a T-shirt.

I'll allow it!

**313WX** · October-01-17, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Pam

I like how Hillary said that about him like it's supposed to be a slam. He's what a Democrat is supposed to be. If he runs again, he should run third party. The Dems will just cheat him again if he runs as a Dem. The Clintonites are still in charge.

I'm still torn on whether Bernie should run 3rd party, if he runs again.

If he were to run on the Democratic Party ticket, because of his charisma and sheer popularity as president, the corporate tools will have no choice but to march along with his agenda for Berniecare, free college and a higher minimum wage as the leader of the party, or risk getting primaried.

This sort of happened with Trump when Republicans suddenly started rallying against Free Trade and Illegal Immigrating after he won the election, but in typical Trump fashion, he's fumbled it.

**RaumVogel** · October-01-17, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by KJ5

. I came up with a great slogan for Bernie if he runs in 2020. I like Tulsi Gabbard better myself but I think he could definitely win with this. I'd rock it on a T-shirt.

You really need to post that to his Facebook page.

**KJ5** · October-01-17, 11:56 PM

Originally Posted by RaumVogel

You really need to post that to his Facebook page.

I don't have a Facebook nor do I have any plans of getting one. 😛😎

**Richard** · October-02-17, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by KJ5

I don't have a Facebook nor do I have any plans of getting one. 

Smart one,I do not know why I have one and should have deleted it long ago.

**Jimaz** · October-04-17, 10:26 PM

Total duration 34 minutes:

Bernie Sanders & Robert Reich discuss how we defeat Republicans' horrid 'health care' proposal

**Honky Tonk** · October-05-17, 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by Richard

Smart one,I do not know why I have one and should have deleted it long ago.

Because you like all your personal information and activities tracked and passed around?

**Zacha341** · October-05-17, 06:47 AM

Hah... life outside of facebook! Say it ain't so. Actually, you can never truely delete a facebook. Only put it into dormant state of inactivity I hear..

Originally Posted by Richard

Smart one,I do not know why I have one and should have deleted it long ago.

**Richard** · October-05-17, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Hah... life outside of facebook! Say it ain't so. Actually, you can never truely delete a facebook. Only put it into dormant state of inactivity I hear..

I only signed up to play the mafia wars game until they killed it,in the meen time it loaded all 1200 contacts onto my phone,I never played it on my phone and it does not allow me to delete it all.

**Richard** · October-05-17, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Because you like all your personal information and activities tracked and passed around?

It is kinda like useing google,but at the least I never put my proper date of birth and use a pre-paid debt card for any internet purchase,including PayPal.

**Pam** · October-05-17, 07:00 PM

Bernie and Larry David find out they have a connection:

https://www.today.com/popculture/see...t-they-t117110

**Zacha341** · October-05-17, 09:35 PM

Ick, I detest all this stuff online and on mobile phones demanding your contacts. Resist them -- you must! --

-- I do. You have to think before clicking on that which leads to the forced sharing. Easy to get insnared!

Originally Posted by Richard

I only signed up to play the mafia wars game until they killed it,in the meen time it loaded all 1200 contacts onto my phone,I never played it on my phone and it does not allow me to delete it all.

**Jimaz** · October-05-17, 10:09 PM

Total duration 51 minutes:
FULL CONVERSATION Between Bernie Sanders and Jimmy Carter on Human Rights

President Jimmy Carter: The United States is an Oligarchy

**Pam** · October-14-17, 08:28 AM

Bernie invited to speak at women's convention at Cobo this month:

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017...ion/756532001/

Some Hillbots are angry at the invite, but she was invited and turned it down.

https://youtu.be/cDw_3IMshzc

**Honky Tonk** · October-15-17, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Pam

Bernie invited to speak at women's convention at Cobo this month:

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017...ion/756532001/

Some Hillbots are angry at the invite, but she was invited and turned it down.

https://youtu.be/cDw_3IMshzc

A far better choice, IMO.

**Pam** · October-15-17, 06:18 AM

Even though some of the corporate Dems like to say Bernie is not one of them someone let him deliver the weekly Democratic address!

https://youtu.be/5eli_8k9wiI

**Zacha341** · October-17-17, 05:58 AM

Yeah another reason women in general did not vote for Hillary in the numbers she assumed/ expected. Additionally a percentage of feminists - including third-wave feminists - went for Sanders.

Originally Posted by Pam

Some Hillbots are angry at the invite, but she was invited and turned it down.

https://youtu.be/cDw_3IMshzc

**GMan** · October-17-17, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by Pam

Even though some of the corporate Dems like to say Bernie is not one of them someone let him deliver the weekly Democratic address!

https://youtu.be/5eli_8k9wiI

I would bet that they just want to cash in on lingering support of Bernie since their main offering Hillary was shown the door.