State of Emergency/White Nationalist Protest in Virginia

**Pam** · September-02-17, 07:30 PM

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09...ured-hysteria/

Thank God for the Charlottesville Nazis! For a moment there, it was looking like we were actually going to have a few days to stop and reflect on the state of America without being subjected to some new form of manufactured mass hysteria. Seriously, just a few short weeks ago, as the corporatist ruling classes’ ridiculous attempt to convince the world that Donald Trump is some sort of Russian sleeper agent appeared to be finally fizzling out, a significant number of leftist types were beginning to wonder if maybe, just maybe, the fact that the United States government is controlled by a global corporate plutocracy that has no allegiance to any nation, or people, or to anything other than itself, and that is in the process of demonizing and potentially deposing an elected president … that maybe that might be something to focus on, not exclusively, by any means, but alongside other vital issues, like defending the rights of transgender drone pilots and purging syllabi of oppressive pronouns.
Fortunately, thanks to the Nazis of Charlottesville, this dangerous moment of doubt has now passed.

**canuck** · September-02-17, 08:11 PM

God and Nazis. Just a few of my favorite things.

**Honky Tonk** · September-03-17, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by Pam

https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/09...ured-hysteria/

Thanx Pam, I LMAO and totally agree with the author.

**Richard** · September-04-17, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by canuck

I don't support the Venezuelan government anymore than you do. You respect the choice Americans have made in regard to your new President, you have to do the same outside your borders. If you doubt the legitimacy of other governments the world over, you are in for a fiesta. How about doing a little check of Putin's legitimate hold on power in Russia for the past 20 years, and what of Saudi Arabia, chief among friendly non-socialist nations on this planet?

Key word there is "choice"

We had our choices while the others choice is bend the knee or die.

Saudi is protected so we can have cheap goods,do not like Saudi stop buying cheap foreign made crap that needs to be shipped.

Amercians boycott countries for human rights issues then turn around and wright a check while shopping, that directly funds the exact same thing they are against.

**Jimaz** · October-01-17, 03:35 PM

How To Actually Cover Stories About Antifa - Some News

**aj3647** · October-20-17, 01:00 PM

Three white nationalists were arrested and charged with attempted murder following Richard Spencer's speech at the University of Florida yesterday.

http://weartv.com/news/local/3-men-c...spencer-speech

Shortly before 5:30 p.m., it was reported that a silver Jeep stopped to argue with a group of protesters and began threatening, offering Nazi salutes and shouting chants about Hitler to the group that was near the bus stop.

During the altercation, Tenbrink produced a handgun while the Fears brothers encouraged him to shoot at the victims. Tenbrink fired a single shot at the group which thankfully missed the group and struck a nearby building.

The suspects then fled in a silver jeep.

**clubboss** · October-21-17, 09:30 AM

**313WX** · November-04-17, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by aj3647

It's a youtube video made by a conspiracy theorist. Did you know that Jimmy Dore is a 9/11 Truther?

Oh wow, how did I miss this gem?

Can you please provide your evidence of Jimmy Dore being a 9/11 Truther?

BTW, no one who's pushing the "Russia hacked into the US election" crap should call anyone else a "conspiracy theorist."

**aj3647** · November-06-17, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Can you please provide your evidence of Jimmy Dore being a 9/11 Truther?

Is a video of him literally saying that he believes Building 7 was a controlled demolition enough proof for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDdcAU5Y8U&t=2m58s

I believe in conspiracies. So, Gulf of Tonkin, am I a conspiracy theorist if I think that the government used that as a false flag operation to get us into Vietnam, or is that a fact? Building 7. Now who you gonna believe? The government that lied us into a war or your lying eyes? Building 7 was demolished by somebody. It didn't fall down because of a fire. But if I say that, that makes me a "conspiracy theorist." I think the term conspiracy theorist has an undue amount of negativity attached to it

Here's Jimmy Dore on Ari Shaffir's "Skeptic Tank" podcast in May 2013:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXrqXTOqHuk&t=1h46m33s

I think that when Building 7 went down, somebody was directly involved in that.
...
So a person willing to start a war on a lie wouldn't also be willing to let three thousand people get killed to start that war? That doesn't make any sense. He's gonna start a war that kills-- how many American soldiers have been killed? Four or five thousand, right? But they wouldn't let four or five thousand be killed in America? So that logic doesn't make sense. All I know is that Building 7 did not come down because a plane hit another building next to it.

**313WX** · November-06-17, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by aj3647

Is a video of him literally saying that he believes Building 7 was a controlled demolition enough proof for you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNDdcAU5Y8U&t=2m58s

Here's Jimmy Dore on Ari Shaffir's "Skeptic Tank" podcast in May 2013:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXrqXTOqHuk&t=1h46m33s

LOL!!!

So asking questions now equates to being a 9/11 Truther. What a fucked up world we live in today if that's the case.

BTW, please be so kind to answer my question to you in the thread below:

https://www.detroityes.com/mb/showth...-wounds-others

Just out of curiosity, why did you bring up Trump at all? What did he have to do with someone killing this individual with their vehicle?

**aj3647** · November-07-17, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

LOL!!!
So asking questions now equates to being a 9/11 Truther. What a fucked up world we live in today if that's the case.

Don't throw out your back moving those goal posts. He didn't "ask questions", he flat out definitively said that he believed that it was a controlled demolition. Do you need to read his words again in order to comprehend it?

Building 7 was demolished by somebody. It didn't fall down because of a fire.

I guess I must have missed where the question mark is in there, maybe you can point it out to me. He's not asking a question now is he? He's making a definite statement of what he believes to be the "truth" of 9/11.

I said he was a 9/11 Truther, he is. You asked for proof, I provided it. I guess that wasn't enough for you. I don't know what is.

As for the second part of your post, I have answered your question in detail in the relevant thread. Anything else I can provide for you today?

**313WX** · November-09-17, 02:27 AM

Originally Posted by aj3647

Don't throw out your back moving those goal posts. He didn't "ask questions", he flat out definitively said that he believed that it was a controlled demolition. Do you need to read his words again in order to comprehend it?

I guess I must have missed where the question mark is in there, maybe you can point it out to me. He's not asking a question now is he? He's making a definite statement of what he believes to be the "truth" of 9/11.

I said he was a 9/11 Truther, he is. You asked for proof, I provided it. I guess that wasn't enough for you. I don't know what is.

Unlike you, I don't cherry pick what people say and then take them completely out of context. All I saw was him asking questions, and there's nothing wrong with being inquisitive.

That being said, let's go along with your assumption that Jimmy Dore's a 9/11 truther and thus can't possibly get anything else right. Hillary Clinton also thought that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. By that logic, should she also lose all credibility when it comes to saying and doing anything else [[including running for president)?

**oladub** · November-09-17, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Hillary Clinton also thought that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction. By that logic, should she also lose all credibility when it comes to saying and doing anything else [[including running for president)?

Just because Senator Clinton was fool enough to believe Bush's fake news or used it as an excuse to support the Iraq war and then, as SOS, developed policies that left hundreds of thousands of Arabs dead and created millions of refugees and rekindled the cold war doesn't mean she should have lost "all credibility when it comes to saying and doing anything else" either.

**Richard** · November-09-17, 11:31 AM

^ I do not think she was a fool,she knows the profit potential of war.

**aj3647** · November-09-17, 02:39 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Unlike you, I don't cherry pick what people say and then take them completely out of context. All I saw was him asking questions, and there's nothing wrong with being inquisitive.

He wasn't asking questions. I'm sorry you are illiterate. Here's a link to a local organization that deals with adult literacy. If you can read this enough to know what it means, please click on it and get some much needed help.

http://readingworksdetroit.org/

**Honky Tonk** · November-09-17, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by oladub

Just because Senator Clinton was fool enough to believe Bush's fake news or used it as an excuse to support the Iraq war and then, as SOS, developed policies that left hundreds of thousands of Arabs dead and created millions of refugees and rekindled the cold war doesn't mean she should have lost "all credibility when it comes to saying and doing anything else" either.

I don't know if she believed it as much as her zeal to jump on the bandwagon of what's happening now. If you watch the multitude of videos of her beliefs and positions, that are out there, she is "for" whatever is popular @ the moment.

**313WX** · November-09-17, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by aj3647

I'm sorry you are illiterate.

And I'm sorry that you're bitter and daft.

**aj3647** · January-05-18, 01:35 PM

One of the "Unite the Right" marchers from Charlottesville is now facing terrorism charges after he attempted to derail an Amtrak train in Nebraska while armed:

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...cident-n834966

Wilson "traveled with members of the 'alt-right' Neo Nazi group to the protests in Charlottesville, Virginia," the cousin told investigators. The cousin said Wilson "has expressed an interest in 'killing black people' and others besides whites, especially during the protests in St. Louis," the affidavit said. The cousin also believed Wilson had posted "Whites Only" signs on businesses.

There were good people on both sides though, just like this guy!

**Richard** · January-05-18, 06:06 PM

And speaking of Charlottesville,the 220 page report is completed.

Interesting read.

https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/c869f...fb8400219c.pdf

**aj3647** · December-11-18, 01:41 PM

UPDATE: James Alex Fields, the neo-Nazi and Donald Trump supporter who drove a Dodge Challenger through a crowd of protesters at Charlottesville, killing one and injuring scores of others, has been found guilty of first-degree murder and 8 other felony counts and sentenced to life in prison plus 419 additional years.

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/jury-recom...opstories.html

Just another "very fine person" caught up in the Deep State witch hunt against Trump and his supporters! But that ANTIFA though, they're just as bad, both sides are equal, etc.

**JBMcB** · December-11-18, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by aj3647

Just another "very fine person" caught up in the Deep State witch hunt against Trump and his supporters! But that ANTIFA though, they're just as bad, both sides are equal, etc.

Life in prison, he got what he deserved.

Meanwhile, an ANTIFA protestor charged with multiple felonies for beating multiple people in the head with a bike lock plead no contest and got... 3 years probation.

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08...k-assault-case

So, yeah, if you murder someone you should go to jail for life, as it should be. But multiple aggravated assaults with a deadly weapon? I guess if you call the victims fascists, probation is enough punishment.

**Richard** · December-11-18, 10:53 PM

Typical California,they did not want to offend him by putting him in jail.

If the other guy had been tried in California,he proably would have got a year at the most.

Funny how other countries list Antifa right alongside of the nazis,like two peas in a pod but in this country they are protected and admired as a force for the cause.

**aj3647** · December-12-18, 01:50 PM

Originally Posted by JBMcB

Life in prison, he got what he deserved.

Meanwhile, an ANTIFA protestor charged with multiple felonies for beating multiple people in the head with a bike lock plead no contest and got... 3 years probation.

https://www.berkeleyside.com/2018/08...k-assault-case

So, yeah, if you murder someone you should go to jail for life, as it should be. But multiple aggravated assaults with a deadly weapon? I guess if you call the victims fascists, probation is enough punishment.

Yeah, people plead out to lesser charges, it's not uncommon. Nor is it somehow something that only gets applied to ANTIFA.

Alt-Right neo-Nazi Taylor Wilson, one of the many "very fine people" who marched at the United the Right rally in Charlottesville, plead guilty to lesser charges after he attempted to derail an Amtrak train full of people at gunpoint. He was originally facing two life sentences in prison on terrorism charges. Now, his ham-fisted attempt at mass murder will likely result in just a few years in prison.

https://www.omaha.com/news/courts/mi...cf820bf95.html

https://www.thedailybeast.com/neo-na...onductor-bitch

If you'd like another example, then take a look at Richard Preston. A KKK "Imperial Wizard" and a militia member [[and a Very Fine Person), he was captured on video at the Charlottesville rally firing a gun at a black counter-protester. How much time did he get in prison for attempted murder? Four years. He plead out on a charge of firing a gun within 1000 ft of a school. Four years for trying to murder someone with a gun.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/22/us/kk...nce/index.html

ANTIFA brings bike locks, the Trump-supporting Neo-Nazis bring guns. And they use them. Both sides equal tho...

**coracle** · December-12-18, 04:56 PM

If it wasn’t for “White Nationalists” the rest of the world wouldn’t have Europe, North America and Australia to illegally send their failures to. [[with the explicit approval of UN)

I saw a recent report [[Breitbart) suggesting there are circa 750 Million people wanting to “migrate” and you can be sure they’re not lining up to go to Africa, Central or South America or Asia. They want to go where “White Supremacy” is a “problem”.

**Canadian Visitor** · December-12-18, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by coracle

If it wasn’t for “White Nationalists” the rest of the world wouldn’t have Europe, North America and Australia to illegally send their failures to. [[with the explicit approval of UN)

I saw a recent report [[Breitbart) suggesting there are circa 750 Million people wanting to “migrate” and you can be sure they’re not lining up to go to Africa, Central or South America or Asia. They want to go where “White Supremacy” is a “problem”.

You are supreme proof why being 'white' doesn't make you superior.

You're brain-addled bigot with no conscience and mental abilities so low the typical 3rd grader from Mississippi would lay waste to you in a debate.

****

You do realize that the boundaries of African, formerly colonial countries were determined by western powers right?

That their institutions of government are of western creation?

That throughout the colonial period, right up to the mid 20th century, these countries were pillaged of anything their western masters deemed of value, with very little investment in local welfare.

That upon leaving these countries behind as independent states, most of the west set up tariff walls to keep any manufactured goods from said countries out.

*there are exceptions, and those exceptions don't face an exodus of their population, because they are doing reasonably well.

Demonizing whole peoples, and entire continents because of your ignorance and hatred is immoral and intellectually unsound.

If you had a good job and money, maybe you would get an education and a passport so that you could travel and make informed statements instead of just spewing crap.

Why don't you take some time off from posting and embarrassing all the other white people who you to associate yourself with, but who don't feel the same way.

You remind me of that person who can't pay their rent and asks to sleep on your couch; then proceeds to make fun of homeless people and brag about their place.

If there's anything superior about the west, its certainly not because of you.