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[oladub]

Bernie has appeal because many are getting screwed by the current system. He's not deceiving people.

https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org...n-900-billion/

But will ex VP Biden differentiate himself from this?

"The Obama presidency was a disaster for middle-class wealth in the United States. Between 2007 and 2016, the average wealth of the bottom 99 percent dropped by $4,500. Over the same period, the average wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $4.9 million."

[Pam]

But will ex VP Biden differentiate himself from this?

"The Obama presidency was a disaster for middle-class wealth in the United States. Between 2007 and 2016, the average wealth of the bottom 99 percent dropped by $4,500. Over the same period, the average wealth of the top 1 percent rose by $4.9 million."

No, he's a corrupt corporate tool, that's why the DNC and the media are pushing him. So far his platform seems to be: vote for me I'm nicer than Trump.

[Pam]

Mike Gravel ad.

https://youtu.be/3oimzjDbH7E

[Richard]

This morning at 10 am is President Trumps rally in the Amway arena in downtown Orlando,seating capacity 20,000.

People started lining up yesterday in order to get inside,as usual monitors are set up outside for those who are unable to get in due to capacity overflow.

In contrast Mr Sanders had 2000 attend his election rally,which is really not bad sense Hillary had an adverage of 250 attend her rallies.

[coracle]

It’s getting so bad out there that “dem establishment warms to warren”. I think in the end they’ll have to throw a bunch of named cards up in the air and choose the one that lands on top.

What a catastrophe for America that one of it’s “prime” parties is reduced to choosing it’s candidate for President from such a bunch of weirdos.

[Richard]

I think once it gets closer to the election process the DNC will bring out a conservative dem that lands in the middle of it all,the way it stands now Hillary could throw her card in there and it would seem normal on that side.

[Zacha341]

Bring on the free stuff! The pandering continues.

But hey, I have a corner of a student loan I could stand having paid but WHO really pays?

From article:

Presidential candidate Bernie Sanders' plan to wipe away college debt, unveiled the week of the first Democratic debates, violates both maxims and insults the intelligence of the intended beneficiaries.

Bernie Sanders joins Elizabeth Warren in pandering to young voters with student loan plan

And as I've said before the well heeled high end earning profs can't really be behind FREE COLLEGE... If they are touting it they are looking to exempt themselves from the hit. Or maybe their ideology prevents them from reasoning [[sic) it out......

Elizabeth Warren proposes free college and eliminating student debt

[Richard]

None of it needs to make sense as long as you throw the word Free in there.

Thier green by 2050 is over 13 trillion to implement,who do they think is paying for that?

[Zacha341]

^^^ Hah! In the mean time we are trillions in debt! The same debt that Obama was judged for escalating -- continuing under Trump.

Further, socialism spends the money mean ole' capitalism earns.

This FREE stuff is about garnering votes. Young voters will be drawn to it mostly.

[oladub]

Kudos to Tulsi Gabbard who said some sensible things about foreign policy at the first democratic debate of all places. She cited the dangers of brinksmanship directed at Iran that Bolton and Pomeo's policies produced. She has my vote in the Democratic primary where everyone else is selling 'free stuff'.

"We still have 2,000 troops in Syria, 5,000 in Iraq, 14,000 in Afghanistan. We just moved an aircraft carrier task force, B-52s and 1,000 troops to the Persian Gulf to confront Iran. We are about to impose sanctions on the Iranian foreign minister with whom we would need to negotiate to avoid a war." "At the end of the Cold War, we were the lone superpower. Who forfeited our preeminence? Who bled us of 7,000 U.S. lives and $6 trillion in endless Middle East wars? Who got us into this Cold War II?" -Pat Buchanan

"We are no better off in Afghanistan that we were when this war began." -Tulsi Gabbard

[pjbear05]

Tulsi Gabbard is also great.

^^^This. Tulsi Gabbard is one the very few Dems I could vote for. YouTube search the interviews she had on the Joe Rogan Experience podcasts and you'll see what I mean.

[Richard]

Kudos to Tulsi Gabbard who said some sensible things about foreign policy at the first democratic debate of all places. She cited the dangers of brinksmanship directed at Iran that Bolton and Pomeo's policies produced. She has my vote in the Democratic primary where everyone else is selling 'free stuff'.

"We still have 2,000 troops in Syria, 5,000 in Iraq, 14,000 in Afghanistan. We just moved an aircraft carrier task force, B-52s and 1,000 troops to the Persian Gulf to confront Iran. We are about to impose sanctions on the Iranian foreign minister with whom we would need to negotiate to avoid a war." "At the end of the Cold War, we were the lone superpower. Who forfeited our preeminence? Who bled us of 7,000 U.S. lives and $6 trillion in endless Middle East wars? Who got us into this Cold War II?" -Pat Buchanan

"We are no better off in Afghanistan that we were when this war began." -Tulsi Gabbard

Depends on how one defines war.

As of 2014 we are actually involved in over 134 actions or “wars” across the world.Daily.

Technically we have not actually been in a war sense WW2.

[Pam]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...vidual-mandate

Yes, I'd bring back the individual mandate," Biden told CNN's Chris Cuomo on Thursday.

Tell me again how this clown is supposedly the frontrunner and electable?

[Richard]

^ he should individually mandate himself to a back room somewhere.

You are going to fine somebody that has no money ... for having no money.

Thats not a Republican thing that is a zero common sense thing.

[coracle]

What a FARCE in Congress yesterday. The democrats doing the “people’s business” passed a resolution condemning President Trump for being “racist”.

Are they really so stupid they don’t know they’ve used “racist” so excessively frequently for so long that NOBODY gives a shit being their target because they’ve made it meaningless.

[Honky Tonk]

What a FARCE in Congress yesterday. The democrats doing the “people’s business” passed a resolution condemning President Trump for being “racist”.

Are they really so stupid they don’t know they’ve used “racist” so excessively frequently for so long that NOBODY gives a shit being their target because they’ve made it meaningless.

Has either party mentioned Social Security yet?

[Zacha341]

Someone mentioned to me that Trump plans on ending SS! For all of his MEGA issues that did not seem right? However, SS lost due to insolvency is more concerning. The ratio of those putting in vs. those taking out [[retiring) is only increasing as the last of the US baby-boomers retire.

Yet we're told/ sold that there's plenty to go around-even more stuffs for FREE!

[Zacha341]

1992 Boogey on Down... WHATEVER'S ON CAMERA comes back eventually!

[Honky Tonk]

Someone mentioned to me that Trump plans on ending SS! For all of his MEGA issues that did not seem right? However, SS lost due to insolvency is more concerning. The ratio of those putting in vs. those taking out [[retiring) is only increasing as the last of the US baby-boomers retire.

Yet we're told/ sold that there's plenty to go around-even more stuffs for FREE!

I envision myself in the near future standing in line for government cheese hand-outs. And hoping they don't run out.

[Zacha341]

^^^ I wonder if people will be as resolute and polite in the new food lines as they were back in say '34?

[Richard]

1992 Boogey on Down... WHATEVER'S ON CAMERA comes back eventually!

Those females do not look very underage to me and the picture where he “appears” to be kissing her?

The Camara is catching the back of her head,he could be licking her nose for all we know.

It appears to be a bit of a stretch.

It was south Florida in the 80s and 90s if you walked 5 feet and could not find a party with hookers,models and blow you were blind and deaf.

The model part is irrelevant,they were a dime a dozen and they flock to power and money,we are not talking about Kansas.

Go to south beach and you can trip over them all day long at $3000 a night there are plenty of “models” that are willing participants.

[oladub]

I came across a couple of articles with purported photos of Rep. Omar's family, Facebook pages and marriage certificates suggesting Representative Omar has an interesting background. Her father has an interesting past too in the service of Somalia's former Islamic Communist dictator. Granted, none of this is true until the corporate media publish it but if only a fraction is true, Rep. Omar should be in legal deep water.

Flow line above from DAVID STEINBERG: TYING UP LOOSE
THREADS IN THE CURIOUS CASE

Rep. Omar was naturalized in 1995. She became a U.S. citizen in 2000. Rep. Omar " entered the U.S. in the mid-1990s as a third-priority, known as P-3, refugee — that is, a refugee who is admitted to the country due to their ties to an already-resettled refugee." Using DNA tests, "about 87 percent of P-3 refugees’ family relation claims turned out to be fraudulent." The program was consequently shut down by the Obama administration although p-3 refugees committing fraud were not sent back.

To provide some balance, AP as a representative of the corporate media meanwhile says that allegations about improprieties are false. Even Rep. Omar calls the marriage and fraud claims "lies".

Snopes says that the allegation that Rep. Omar married her brother is "unproven".

[rb336]

Yet again, as per your usual, you are assuming a point was being made that wasn't. Trump claimed, after Epstein's arrest, that he didn't know/like him. This is just part of a load of evidence that refutes your god's claim.

Those females do not look very underage to me and the picture where he “appears” to be kissing her?

[Richard]

Yet again, as per your usual, you are assuming a point was being made that wasn't. Trump claimed, after Epstein's arrest, that he didn't know/like him. This is just part of a load of evidence that refutes your god's claim.

Good to know that you have been inside of the presidents head for the last 50 years knowing exactly what he was doing and thinking every second of the day in order for you to be able to dispute anything.

There are a lot of people that I have associated with the past,they run the gauntlet of being dead,in prison,state senators or whatever.

It does not matter who you may have associated with in the past,what matters is the steps you take once you realize what kind of person they are,you can associate with a lot of people without really knowing who they really are.

You are trying to use the guilty by association aspect to make your case which is not how it works in the real world.

It does not make him a god,it makes him a human just like everybody else.

So you have associated with somebody and it turns out that they were a child molestor,by your reasoning that also makes you one and you should be publicy known as one and suffer the consequences.

You do not get out much do you? Everything always has to be a how life works explanation,do not be a follower.

Thats what really bothers you about Trump supporters,because most are capable of independent thought and that goes against the very fiber of your narrative.

Wake up and realize the more the government says trust me we know what is best for you,let us handle it,the faster you need to run.

You like to attack your President Trump But What you fail to realize is the majority of what he implements and says is because the majority support and feel the same way.

He would not be there if he did not have the support.

[jcole]

He would not be there if he did not have the support.

He would not be there if Democrats had voted. And if the Dems hadn't split the vote on two different candidates