Journalists Resign After Retracted Story....

[Zacha341]

Hate or Love Trump - Three Journalists Have Stepped Off!

3 CNN Journalists Resign After Retracted Story on Trump Ally

From article:

Three prominent journalists at CNN resigned on Monday after the cable news network was forced to retract and apologize for a story on its website involving a close ally of President Trump.

The article — linking Anthony Scaramucci, a hedge-fund manager and Trump confidant, to a Russian investment fund supposedly being investigated by the Senate — was removed from CNN.com late last week after the network decided it could not fully stand by its reporting.

The resignations are a black eye at a sensitive moment for the news organization, which has emerged as a regular target of Mr. Trump and his supporters. The president relishes dismissing the network’s coverage as “fake news,” and his closest advisers have accused the channel of harboring a bias against Mr. Trump....

...In follow-up tweets, the president also suggested, without evidence, that CNN was considering a management change. He sought to expand Monday’s resignations into a broader condemnation of the network’s coverage, and that of other news organizations.

CNN’s president, Jeffrey A. Zucker, has invested enormous resources into political and investigative coverage of the Trump White House, and he was deeply upset by last week’s reporting errors, according to two people briefed on the network’s discussions over the weekend who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

[coracle]

Does anyone believe that? This is cnn we're talking about and these people would be "stars" in their ranks for their capacity to infuse Trump hatred into their "reports". The only problem is they were found out. You can make a safe bet they're still on the cnn payroll but at a discrete distance, concocting lies to be released in future "newscasts" and trying to plant fake information to support the reports they "resigned" for.

[Richard]

I think it is funny how he manipulates the press,throw a off the wall tweet out there and they are distracted for weeks.

His 10 second at best tweet gives them 100s of hours of something to talk about verses what is really going on,he is actually doing pretty good at diversion,and they lap it up like a puppy.

[Honky Tonk]

I think it is funny how he manipulates the press,throw a off the wall tweet out there and they are distracted for weeks.

His 10 second at best tweet gives them 100s of hours of something to talk about verses what is really going on,he is actually doing pretty good at diversion,and they lap it up like a puppy.

And like puppies, they spend hours chasing their tales.

[[Jimaz, that was done on porpoise)

[Jimaz]

...[[Jimaz, that was done on porpoise)

I didn't even participate at all to this thread.

Why are you cyberstalking me, Honky Tonk?

'Fess up.

[Honky Tonk]

I didn't even participate at all to this thread.

Why are you cyberstalking me, Honky Tonk?

'Fess up.

I know you have a thing for proper English. I just wanted to point out "tales" was a play on words.

[aj3647]

How many Fox News journalists resigned or were fired over the Seth Rich fake news story that Fox was pushing for weeks and then eventually retracted?

Say what you will about CNN, but they owned up to their mistake. They publicly admitted fault after their own internal investigation [[contrary to what coracle said, they were not forced to admit fault), three high-ranking reporters lost their jobs, and they changed their investigative reporting standards to make them more strict. When Fox News gets busted telling outright lies, they do nothing, change nothing, fire no one, and only admit fault once the family of a dead man publicly begs them for days to stop lying about their dead son.

[GMan]

How many Fox News journalists resigned or were fired over the Seth Rich fake news story that Fox was pushing for weeks and then eventually retracted?
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. When Fox News gets busted telling outright lies, they do nothing, change nothing, fire no one, and only admit fault once the family of a dead man publicly begs them for days to stop lying about their dead son.

What's the fake part, that he was linked to the DNC hack or that he was murdered in a botched robbery attempt????

[Jimaz]

...When Fox News gets busted telling outright lies,...

Fun fact: Fox "News" is no longer claiming to be "fair and balanced."

Fox News Is Officially Done with “Fair and Balanced”

According to Sherman, Fox News co-president Jack Abernethy made the decision last August, following Ailes’s resignation, to drop the phrase, because it had been “mocked”....

Who didn't know from the start that the whole claim was a sham?

[aj3647]

What's the fake part, that he was linked to the DNC hack or that he was murdered in a botched robbery attempt????

The link to the DNC hack is the fake part. It was literally made up by Fox News.

Fox News retracts its Seth Rich story:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...stigation.html

Fox News' source for the claim that Seth Rich had DNC emails and provided them to wikileaks was a private investigator named Rod Wheeler. Who is Rod Wheeler, you may ask? Well, he's a disgraced former Washington DC police officer [[he was fired from the force when he tested positive for drug use). He's also, get this, a Fox News on-air contributor! He's appeared on Fox News in the past, making ridiculous and outlandish claims such as claiming that a secret gang of armed lesbians was going around the country abducting and raping girls in schools. He was also a vocal Donald Trump supporter.

Wheeler was being paid to privately investigate the Rich murder. Who was paying him, you may ask? Rod Wheeler was not getting paid by the Rich Family, he was actually being bankrolled by a man named Ed Butowsky. Who is Ed Butowsky? He's a millionaire businessman from Texas who is deeply involved in Right Wing politics. And guess what else? Ed Butowsky, along with Rod Wheeler, is ALSO a Fox News on-air contributor! That's right, Fox News' "source" for the Rich story was one of its own on-air contributors who was being hired by another one of its on-air contributors.

Although Rod Wheeler had been in contact with the Rich Family during the course of his "investigation", the Rich Family denied that he ever showed them any proof that their son Seth was involved in the DNC hack or giving emails to wikileaks.

Rod Wheeler never provided any evidence to back up his claims, not to the police, not to the Rich Family, and not to Fox News...not to ANYONE. It was literally just his word and his word alone that was the sole source for Fox News' story about Seth Rich being the source of the DNC leak.

After the Rich Family threatened to sue him, Rod Wheeler finally recanted his claims publicly. Fox News then issued a formal retraction of the story [[see above link), after the Rich Family publicly begged Sean Hannity to stop smearing their dead son's memory with unproven allegations.

[GMan]

The link to the DNC hack is the fake part. It was literally made up by Fox News.

Fox News retracts its Seth Rich story:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...stigation.html
.......

Thanks for providing that trail. I knew about Wheeler's investigation and though it should not matter who is paying for the investigation, it definitely smells like political garbage. Sounds like Fox was using CNN tactics with the "anonymous source" B.S.

Seth's murder is suspicious as well as the DNC stepping in to speak for the family. More political garbage there. Definite CYA move.

Did you hear about the FBI agents weapons being stolen from a car earlier in the day, nearby where Seth was murdered? Talk about weaving a story and creating doubt. Seth was also supposedly in a verbal shouting match at a bar prior to his death. Chances are he pissed somebody off and his unfortunate end was the payback.

[noise]

I think it is funny how he manipulates the press,throw a off the wall tweet out there and they are distracted for weeks.

His 10 second at best tweet gives them 100s of hours of something to talk about verses what is really going on,he is actually doing pretty good at diversion,and they lap it up like a puppy.

Although Trump's administration hasn't been able to achieve anything substantial since they've been in office.

Hard to get work done when you're trying your best to stay out of trouble. Clinton had a similar problem during his second term.

[Richard]

Although Trump's administration hasn't been able to achieve anything substantial since they've been in office.

Hard to get work done when you're trying your best to stay out of trouble. Clinton had a similar problem during his second term.

He is a face,there is a lot going on behind the scenes and things are getting accomplished but those obsessed with thier mother country Russia and implementing a socialist agenda,do not see beyond that.

Lets see what was accomplished in the last 8 years.

The infrastructure is on its way of being rebuilt.
The inner city schools system is in stellar shape.
The skills training programs are years ahead of schedule.
The manufacturing base is now in a position to be able to compete worldwide based on a fair playing field in the trade markets.
The prison reform has been in place.
Mass transit has increased dramatically and rail in general has an improved safety wise.

Funny how none of the above applies or has happened.

Just a few listed but other then a massive transfer of wealth from the middle up and ramming a pipeline through the center of the country so another country can make more money what exactly was accomplished in the last 8 years that has improved the daily life of every US citizen?

[313WX]

Hard to get work done when you're trying your best to stay out of trouble. Clinton had a similar problem during his second term.

History will not be very kind to the Clintons, given how disastrous they have been to America. The outcome of this past election is just the beginning of the backlash they'll experience.

He and his wife lucked up big time between the collapse of the Berlin Wall and the Dot-Com bubble [[thus, everyone was at peace and had a ton of money in their pocket).

[313WX]

He is a face,there is a lot going on behind the scenes and things are getting accomplished...

Such as...?

Honest question.

[[Yes, I'm aware of him killing the TPP and stepping up illegal immigration enforcement, but what else?)

[Zacha341]

^^^ In hot debate, but going forth Kates Law [[directly related to penalties, etc upon illegal immigrants repeating offenses):

Kate's Law is named for Kate Steinle, a young woman in San Francisco who was murdered on a pier on the Embarcadero allegedly by an undocumented immigrant who was a repeat felon and was deported multiple times. Saturday is the two-year anniversary of her death.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/29/politi...ote/index.html

The bill would raise the maximum prison penalties for immigrants caught repeatedly entering the US illegally, with escalating penalties for the number of repeat offenses and for other criminal acts. For example, someone who re-enters the US illegally with a felony conviction or three misdemeanors on their record could be imprisoned for up to 10 years. An undocumented immigrant who illegally crosses after being deported three or more times would also serve.....

Suspect in killing of San Francisco woman had been deported five times

San Francisco [[CNN) Kate Steinle was walking on a busy pier in San Francisco with her father when there was a single popping sound in the air.

She fell to the ground, struck by a bullet, the victim of what police say appears to be a random killing.

The man accused of firing the deadly shot -- 45-year-old Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez -- is an undocumented immigrant, a repeat felon who has been deported five times to Mexico, according to immigration officials....

[Richard]

Such as...?

Honest question.

[[Yes, I'm aware of him killing the TPP and stepping up illegal immigration enforcement, but what else?)

Well the illegal inforcement aspect was actually going strong and ramped up under the Obama administration,so far under president Trump it has just become more vocal verses being kept under the radar as before.

So on that aspect one just needs to decide weather they prefer knowing what is going on or preferring to be kept in the dark about it.

They are working on a broken immigration system which should have been a point 20 years ago.

They killed the neighborhood program that forced diversification of neighborhoods and regulated who can live where.

Trump has pushed for and they are working on a privately funded apprenticeship program where people going to collage or in a trades program can actually work as an apprentice in the field while they are studying.

So when they graduate they not only have a piece of paper but also actual hands on experience and if not an immediate job in the field of study extremely good odds at getting one in the shortest amount of time.

Notice I said privately funded and not taxpayer funded,I would guess that the contributors will most likely receive some kind of tax credits based on performance.

Which to me anyways if it gets somebody out of collage and to work without massive debt and helps build a stronger workforce then it is taxpayer monies well spent or invested.

The whole revamping of the education system needs to include training programs which is also gives people the skills needed to be able to realize their little piece of the American dream.

You cannot as a country buy your way out of poverty but you can help provide the tools and that is the direction that it is going in.

It has only been how many months,but everything I have mentioned directly effects people on a personal level in their daily life.


I guess the best thing the left can do is keep the distractions going because while they are doing that they are leaving everybody else alone to do thier jobs.

Keep watching my right hand while you forget about my left.

Like it or not he is the president which in turn leaves two choices,either spend all the time and energy fighting it or spend the same time and energy useing it to improve the local condition or figure it out how to make it work best.

It does not matter who is president ,two things that will never happen in this country will be a dictatorship or a socialist based system.

[313WX]

Well the illegal inforcement aspect was actually going strong and ramped up under the Obama administration,so far under president Trump it has just become more vocal verses being kept under the radar as before.

So on that aspect one just needs to decide weather they prefer knowing what is going on or preferring to be kept in the dark about it.

[[snip)

Well first, it's a complete myth that Obama was tough on immigration if you're simply basing it on the number of deportations, simply because of the odd criteria ICE uses [[those who are turned away at the border are now technically considered "deported"). Obama didn't actually have organized raids occurring.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...402-story.html

BTW, I support the increased illegal immigration enforcement. It should go even further in fact.

1. Mandate every company to use e-Verify. If a company chooses not to participate, they will be forced to pay steep fines and/or a steep penalty tax.

2. Actively conduct audits and follow-ups of businesses who are found to violate e-Verify. If during the audit they're not compliant, the punish should range from more steep fines to forfeiture of their assets and even sending those who conspired in hiring illegal immigrants to trial to potentially face a jail sentence.

3. Withhold certain federal grants from Sanctuary Cities [[Trump is allegedly "working on" this, which I would support).

Getting back to my point, you said "accomplished," not "working on." The distinction is important, because Trump's been unsuccessfully "working on" things such as health care reform, the border wall and NAFTA since he was inaugurated, and he didn't actually force Carrier or Ford to bring those jobs that were / are in Mexico back to the US.

So again, I ask, what has Trump accomplished besides the things I mentioned?

[Richard]

So what exactly are you expecting? He has been in office how long and you are expecting the admistration to have rebuilt 8 years of destruction?

Okay lets impeach him because he did not twinkle his nose and make it all better for everybody in 30 days.

Something tells me that no matter what he does and how fast it will never be good enough for everybody.

How come no comment on the list I posted where the previous administration had 8 years to address but did not.

Now I posted what was actually being worked on to fix those things but that is not good enough for some because they are looking for reasons to keep an adgenda alive that died 90 days ago but they are holding on to a unicorn and buckets of pixie dust with hopes of there just may be a 1 in 500,000,000 chance that is never going to happen.

Give up,let the MAGA force flow through your veins and release you from the clouded memories of disappointment,like I said he is there and to place all the blame on him because he is without some self reflection is really doing nothing for the country.

The other parties are sowing what they reaped,this country was special because of the two party system that was set up to keep a balance.

The other parties screwed this country by playing thier stupid games and now instead of recognizing that and regrouping they are keeping this country a one party system.

So what is the response ? O it is Trump screwing the country,it is the Russians fault,well if Mickey Mouse had voted we would have won,President Trumps voters may have put him in office but everybody else opened the door and laid the red carpet out,but yet everything is everybody's else's fault.

[313WX]

So what exactly are you expecting? He has been in office how long and you are expecting the admistration to have rebuilt 8 years of destruction?

Okay lets impeach him because he did not twinkle his nose and make it all better for everybody in 30 days.

Something tells me that no matter what he does and how fast it will never be good enough for everybody.

How come no comment on the list I posted where the previous administration had 8 years to address but did not.

Now I posted what was actually being worked on to fix those things but that is not good enough for some because they are looking for reasons to keep an adgenda alive that died 90 days ago but they are holding on to a unicorn and buckets of pixie dust with hopes of there just may be a 1 in 500,000,000 chance that is never going to happen.

I agree that Trump deserves a fair chance to accomplish his goals just like every other president before him. That said, I'm merely stating that it's disingenuous to claim they HAVE been accomplished when they haven't actually be implemented yet.

BTW, I'm hardly an Obama fan. True, he did several good things:

1. Rescued the Auto Industry

2. Implemented *some* health care reform

3. Implemented *some* banking reform

4. Shook up the for-profit college industry [[probably his biggest win beside saving GM / Chrysler, killing Corinthian Colleges AND ITT Tech).

That said, he also doubled the national debt, was actively pushing to throw American workers further under the bus with NAFTA on steroids [[TPP), income inequality reached levels not seen since the Gilded Age under his watch, he's made the Middle East even more unstable by expanding the number of "wars" since the Bush administration and he inflamed tensions with Russia to levels not seen since the Cold War while heading out the door. He and the Democrats now seem hell bent on sending us back to the days when we were living in constant fear of nuclear annihilation [[simply because "The Chosen One" lost).

Furthermore, he failed to push for his health care and banking reforms to go much further than they did, considering he had a supermajority to work with in Congress for his first 2 years. Unlike some of his predecessors [[LBJ and FDR for example), Obama seemed to not understand nor appreciate the power of the Bully Pulpit.

[Richard]

Immigration enforcement went from 8 billion a year to 18 billion a year in 2016.

It is like anything else they can only afford to go after the big players on the E-Verify because they can afford to absorb the fines.

I have aquaintances that are under deportation hearings for felonies that they had 25 years ago,and have spent in excess of $25,000 in attorneys,there have also been some here in excess of 40 years and never even applied for citizenship and still do not speak a word of English.

The whole immigration thing is a two part attack you are chasing your tail by concentrating on just enforcement and not rehabbing the system.


Obama changed the banking system over to 5 main banks controlling everything,president Trump mentions changing banking laws to reverse that and everybody freaks out,the amount bank scams against coustmers has doubled and the publics recourse has dropped to almost nothing.

Same thing happened in the U.K.,my friend sued his bank for mortgage fraud and got hit with a $750,000 bank lawyer fee.

That whole timeframe was a massive transfer of wealth.

Anyways I hope on the Democratic side they get thier act together but as it seems now it is not going to happen in this four years so maybe they will hand us another 4 years of President Trump.

While at the G-20 he did broker a peace deal with Russia to end the Syrian
war.

[noise]

He is a face,there is a lot going on behind the scenes and things are getting accomplished but those obsessed with thier mother country Russia and implementing a socialist agenda,do not see beyond that.

Lets see what was accomplished in the last 8 years.

The infrastructure is on its way of being rebuilt.
The inner city schools system is in stellar shape.
The skills training programs are years ahead of schedule.
The manufacturing base is now in a position to be able to compete worldwide based on a fair playing field in the trade markets.
The prison reform has been in place.
Mass transit has increased dramatically and rail in general has an improved safety wise.

Funny how none of the above applies or has happened.

Just a few listed but other then a massive transfer of wealth from the middle up and ramming a pipeline through the center of the country so another country can make more money what exactly was accomplished in the last 8 years that has improved the daily life of every US citizen?

Obama was a lackluster President. But we're not talking about him. And Trump is shaping up to be worse.

The fact remains, he's been even more "distracted" than the journalists you've disparaged. Who, of course, are still doing their jobs. Trump, on the other hand...

[noise]

A couple of other points:

The socialists did a pretty decent job in Milwaukee. And that was from the early-to-mid 1900s. Socialism has already happened and we benefit from "socialism" tremendously today.

Higher education has NEVER been about job attainment.

[GMan]

A couple of other points:

The socialists did a pretty decent job in Milwaukee. And that was from the early-to-mid 1900s. Socialism has already happened and we benefit from "socialism" tremendously today.

Higher education has NEVER been about job attainment.

We don't benefit from "socialism," we benefit from a voluntarily altruistic society based on religious morals.

[Richard]

A couple of other points:

The socialists did a pretty decent job in Milwaukee. And that was from the early-to-mid 1900s. Socialism has already happened and we benefit from "socialism" tremendously today.

Higher education has NEVER been about job attainment.

They survived with continued infighting until 1946 when returning solders that actually expirenced what socialist countries are about and wanted nothing to do with it.

I am shure Hoover had something to do with thier fate as well,which kinda brings us back to if you support a socialist agenda then really no need to be upset about Russia and President Trump because being that they are socialist comrades, why fight it.

A lot of the socialist policies that the sewer crowd from Milwaukee take credit for were things that were already happening in Europe for centuries and mostly provided for by religious organizations already.

All they really did was move the issue from the religious organizations to the general public which kinda put a dent into the whole religious aspect,so what really was the end game there? Eliminate the competition?

Excellent job on the closing down of the insane asylums instead of reform,I guess they kinda figured that they could fend for themselves in the streets and jails.

Higher education has always been about job attainment,unless you are under a socialist system where a doctor makes the same as a general labor,kinda like in Cuba where you can get a lawyer that is hooking for the night because she needs a little extra money to remodel her apartment that has no window glass.

Canada has socialist leanings but yet the doctors are leaving there for the states,why is that?

Like I said before most Americans that embrace a socialist agenda would not last 5 minutes under a socialist regime.They like the sound of it but are completely unaware of the concenquenses.

If you are really into it that much I can help,I will provide a tent and a bowl of soup at the end of the day and you just come work for me in exchange,keep in mind though if you have any problems with your situation and become vocal about it you will just disappear in the middle of the night because then you would be a trouble maker and trying to organize others because you do not like the situation that you created.

Not really meaning you as in you personally it is just a liberal use of the word.But if the shoe fits I have a tent.