Handicapped plates and dark tinted windows

**One Shot** · May-21-17, 06:01 PM

My two favorites nowadays. Observed during my Sunday drive. Does everyone have light sensitivity?
I'm talking limo tinted windshields. Is this the thing? Are these people hiding so they can smoke a joint while driving? It's somewhat unnerving at times. If I was a cop I'd hate to have to walk up on that.
Is everyone really disabled? Is this the deadbeat retirement? Pisses me off when you see able bodied people hoping out and strolling into big box stores or the mall. Are you that bad if your going to walk these places? To me you need to have a PHYSICAL impairment that is obvious. A walker,wheelchair, something!
People now just don't care! Don't follow any laws. Don't respect one another.
Oh and lets legalize that marijuana too. Unregulated stores all over Detroit. Make it easier for people to gain access to something that for the most part is used like alcohol. You drive down the road and smell people smoking like it's a cigarette. Then we wonder why people are acting crazy!

Rant over

**313WX** · May-21-17, 06:11 PM

Who pissed in your Cheerios today?

**O3H** · May-21-17, 07:01 PM

People will most certainly find the loopholes in the laws

There is a limited exception for medical necessity with a doctor's prescription, which allows for tinting to be applied to the front side windows as well. Michigan does not have a specification for the darkness of the window application, but does prohibit applications with a solar reflectivity greater than 35%.

**softailrider** · May-21-17, 08:36 PM

Don't like tinted windows, wouldn't buy a vehicle that had anything other then factory tint. Gives the police another reason to pull you over.

BTW, me and my brother got pulled over in Ecorse on Friday, ostensibly because my plate came up stolen [[ it's never been off the car since I bought it, cop came back and said it was one digit off, bunch of bullshit) but really we were pulled over for driving while white.

**G-DDT** · May-21-17, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

Who pissed in your Cheerios today?

Have to agree. What if I'm the one driving a handicap mother to one of her errand locations, and we need to park close to the business? I'm "hopping out", but she [[the passenger) clearly isn't. I only use that Rear-view Tag in my car when I come by to drive her around town.

Second, I do have light sensitivity. I've had it since I was a child in the 80's [[quite literally would seal the window blinds in my room with duct tape). I still use sunglasses, and I have no need for tinted windows. Yet, I'm not going to get unabiding and flip out on those that do have tinted windows. If they are smoking weed, they probably are doing a better job of driving than the drunk [[most folks are aware of that). It's not like they are in their cars secretly prepping a bomb to blow up a casino.

**Johnnny5** · May-21-17, 09:08 PM

Originally Posted by One Shot

To me you need to have a PHYSICAL impairment that is obvious. A walker,wheelchair, something!

That's why the law leaves that decision up to a medical professional and the enforcement up to the police. In other words, it's not up to you.

Someone with MS can function completely normally and then 10 minutes later have difficulty walking or standing. People can also qualify for handicap parking permits if they have heart conditions, chronic pain, breathing issues and a host of other problems that aren't readily apparent to a bystander.

**One Shot** · May-21-17, 10:53 PM

If you're driving you're disabled parent around then you can drop them off at the door and park in the normal spot leaving more spaces for people that actually need to park there.
Ok Johnny how is parking closer going to help people that might have something happen? These non apparent issues won't bother them walking a mall? 40 isles of Sams or Wally World? The people that have to unload wheel chairs or walkers possibly in the weather are in need of close spots. Not someone who might have a sore back or become short of breath walking ,unassisted, under their own power an extra 50-100ft. They're gonna walk 10 times that in the damn store! Oh wait those are the ones that will be riding the scooters! DAMNIT!
Everyone has an excuse!
Goodnight

**Cincinnati_Kid** · May-21-17, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by softailrider

Don't like tinted windows, wouldn't buy a vehicle that had anything other then factory tint. Gives the police another reason to pull you over.

BTW, me and my brother got pulled over in Ecorse on Friday, ostensibly because my plate came up stolen [[ it's never been off the car since I bought it, cop came back and said it was one digit off, bunch of bullshit) but really we were pulled over for driving while white.

Driving while white? Yeah ok......

**Cincinnati_Kid** · May-21-17, 11:35 PM

Originally Posted by Johnnny5

That's why the law leaves that decision up to a medical professional and the enforcement up to the police. In other words, it's not up to you.

Someone with MS can function completely normally and then 10 minutes later have difficulty walking or standing. People can also qualify for handicap parking permits if they have heart conditions, chronic pain, breathing issues and a host of other problems that aren't readily apparent to a bystander.

Thank you Johnnny5....

**Jimaz** · May-22-17, 07:05 AM

**Crystal** · May-22-17, 08:23 AM

Johnny5 said it well: "Someone with MS can function completely normally and then 10 minutes later have difficulty walkingor standing. People can also qualify for handicap parking permits if they have heart conditions, chronic pain, breathingissues and a host of other problems that aren't readily apparent to a bystander."

It's also possible to have enough stamina to shop, but not enough stamina to shop if one has to park far from an entrance.

The assumption that a disability could be verified by a casual observer is absurd. The OP showed a gross lack of common sense.

**Zacha341** · May-22-17, 12:24 PM

I purchased a Florida car with bake-on tinted windows. Just a tad darker the Michy regulations. They were a pain but the car was cool. I never got a ticket but had to listen to a couple of lectures on how it wrong for me to have them.

I hated them too as at night it was hard to see out the side windows if looking for a street address etc.... I was 'almost' amused when the police would pull me over and find an over fourty [[at the time), dull, working stiff at the wheel. They would expect a young person with paper work all wrong or missing.

Originally Posted by softailrider

Don't like tinted windows, wouldn't buy a vehicle that had anything other then factory tint. Gives the police another reason to pull you over.

**Zacha341** · May-22-17, 12:29 PM

Re. use of handicapped tags, it's really hard to say WHY someone would have them. Some are not 'obviously' handicapped. The use could be due to a respiratory issue where the person cannot walk far, or in the case of a person with an amputation [[such as an arm) they cannot carry things far.

Most doctors are pretty firm about issuing the permanent blue handicapped tags. While you might the red temporarily ones easier to get.

**Richard** · May-22-17, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

Driving while white? Yeah ok......

It happens more often then you think.

**softailrider** · May-22-17, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

Driving while white? Yeah ok......

I'm positive that was the reason for the stop, that bullshit about the license plate was total bullshit. My brother and I were at a house on 19th street in Ecorse, we had a reason to be there work related. That cop probably thought we were out buying dope or looking for a prostitute or something else ridiculous.

**Hamtragedy** · May-23-17, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

Driving while white? Yeah ok......

Nothing says "I'm here to buy crack" more than a white dude in a brand new pick-up with a Red Wings sticker driving thru Brightmoor.

**dtowncitylover** · May-23-17, 10:08 AM

I used to have a beater 2001 Ford Ranger and while driving thru Keego Harbor was pulled over because the officer "couldn't read my plates". RIIIIIIIGHHT. It was clean, it was summer, nothing was was obstructing them. Though I'm white, I suspect he thought I could have been Hispanic [[close enough to Pontiac) and therefore could be an illegal/driving w/o a license.

**O3H** · May-24-17, 05:02 AM

Want to get "" profiled"", pimp out the car, tint the windows, etc.
Players get played, by the cops

**Stinger4me** · May-24-17, 05:07 AM

Something for you to think about, Would I want to walk up to that car and not be able to see who is inside and what they may have in their hands? I forgot that everybody has to be cool.

**Ray1936** · May-24-17, 12:37 PM

Dark tinted windows are legal in Nevada, and are especially common in southern Nevada [[Las Vegas area) due to our abundant sunshine and extreme heat. I don't have them, though. But I've oft wondered if one of our locals drove back northeast got stopped for it and was totally puzzled as to why.

I also don't have a snow shovel.