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    Default Weaver/McCormick Flint-GLWA Deal

    Who is fooling who exactly ?
    Those with short memory deficit disorders perhaps ?

    One perspective - one opinion - take it as you wish
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    It is all very confusing,the lease is triple net,so hook back up to DSWD bank the 158 million dollars and use the interest to offset the future increases and cover repairs.

    What blows my mind is you have a city that changes water supply for whatever reason knowing full well that they were putting their residents at risk and the response is,well that was bad so here is 158 million to reward you for your bad behavior.

    It should be no surprise that this was all based on fraud,which happens,until the line is crossed where the residents get thrown under the bus,so I guess that is the answer.

    Hey,you did such a good job with that here is even more for you to play with.

    That is why they got rid of the mob,they did not like the competition,things got done, albeit a bit more costly but at least the residents were taken care of.

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    Google Dennis L. Green guest post for another take.

    To be sure water and wastewater systems and the politics around
    them are complicated things and alternative narratives are very
    possible.

    http://www.eclectablog.com/2017/04/d...er-crisis.html
    Last edited by Dumpling; April-28-17 at 07:03 AM. Reason: decided to put the link after all.

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    Both interesting articles. And the Downriver communities are getting pulled into a wastewater agreement that will turn out the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post

    What blows my mind is you have a city that changes water supply for whatever reason knowing full well that they were putting their residents at risk and the response is,well that was bad so here is 158 million to reward you for your bad behavior.
    Just to be clear the city was not in charge at the time the decision was made to switch to the Flint River. This was the doing of the Emergency Manager who answered only to Rick Snyder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumby View Post
    Just to be clear the city was not in charge at the time the decision was made to switch to the Flint River. This was the doing of the Emergency Manager who answered only to Rick Snyder.
    As you can see, the revisionists are already in full force trying to deflect blame from Saint Rick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gumby View Post
    Just to be clear the city was not in charge at the time the decision was made to switch to the Flint River. This was the doing of the Emergency Manager who answered only to Rick Snyder.
    Yes,thank you for the clarification,it is important to note.

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    I would not be surprised if other entitities did not attempt to get Karegnondi water at a price competetive with DWSD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313WX View Post
    As you can see, the revisionists are already in full force trying to deflect blame from Saint Rick.
    If I had a nickel for every time I had to point this out since the beginning of the crisis I would have a shitload of nickels. The revisionists have been in full force all along. They love pointing to the vote by city council to switch to the KWA as proof that it was the cities fault completely ignoring the fact that the proposed interim water supplier was budgeted to remain with DWSD until the KWA was completed 2 years later. The switch to "treated" water from the river was entirely the Emergency Manager and ignoring the corrosion controls was from the MDEQ.

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    How long before MACOMB kicks DWSD to the curb and goes Karegnondi ?
    http://bit.ly/DrinkMacomb

    Look for the 72 inch DWSD transmission line in yellow
    http://bit.ly/Karegnondi

    DWSD had to move a 12ft diameter drinking water supply pipe
    - because it ran thru middle of leachate in a superfund landfill site
    http://bit.ly/BIgDrinkPipe

    MDEQ has questioned the adequacy of the groundwater monitoring network.
    – The site currently lacks protocols to ensure the well integrity
    for continued monitoring and extraction.
    – Water levels have exceeded the top of collection pipes
    throughout the past 10 years of operation.
    – The containment system’s inconsistent adherence to performance objectives
    indicates portions of the barrier wall are not functioning as designed.

    September 2011 the EPA released its review
    http://www.epa.gov/superfund/sites/f...1050004069.pdf

    The Detroit Water & Sewer Department [[DWSD) easement that runs through
    the western portion of the site contains a 96-inch clean water supply pipeline.
    The clean drinking water supply line was constructed in 1967 and serves as
    the main distribution from Lake Huron to the Detroit Municipal Water System.

    * The DWSD 96 inch drinking water main has been completely submerged
    by chemical groundwater/leachate on more than one occasion.*
    Lets hope there was no infiltration/inflow issues; it was built in 1967.
    That’s a long time for leaks, cracks, splits, etc. to occur in the pipes.
    People assume drinking water coming into their home is “clean”, “pure”, etc.
    http://bit.ly/GHlandfill
    Last edited by O3H; April-28-17 at 08:08 PM.

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    Often, for maximum opinion impact, a narrative mentions the total payment
    amount for the full payment period given. So, instead of: each individual GLWA
    ratepayer is going to indirectly pay KWA bondholders about seven dollars
    each year for newly built freshwater transmission lines north of the GLWA
    service area, which some communities served by GLWA near the transmission
    lines have the option of signing up for, possibly at a better than seven dollar
    per year discount for those ratepayers, this narrative highlights nonpayment
    by Flint plus the full dollar amount for the full length of time.

    GLWA Director McCormick intends at this time to close at least one GLWA
    water plant as GLWA has fresh water production overcapacity. The result
    of every possible community signing on with KWA would probably be the
    closure of an additional GLWA water plant or two.
    Last edited by Dumpling; April-30-17 at 01:59 AM.

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    If the GLWA has overcapacity for fresh drinking water
    - does that also mean they have overcapacity for sewage processing ?

    The City of Pontiac received $55 million in funds from a bond issue
    after a deal with the Oakland County Water Resources Commission
    to sell unused capacity in the city's wastewater treatment system.


    The proceeds have been used to pay off some of the city's bonded debt
    and to leave the general fund with a surplus of about $4 million.

    People forget the INTERCEPTOR is primarily sewage transport
    -- into The City of Detroit for processing in their WWTP
    http://bit.ly/OaklandInterceptor

    I find it absolutely Whacked ! that Oxford sends feces to Detroit
    for sewage processing and cannot comprehend who signed off on that stupidity.
    Last edited by O3H; April-30-17 at 10:45 AM.

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    Do you trust the GLWA and MDEQ to provide accurate public reports ?

    http://bit.ly/NoTrustMDEQ

    How much water volume does a 1 inch rain event create.........

    Who measures the stormwater and creates fees, charges, rates = $$$$$$$$$



    The actual state webpage on combined sewage overflows [[CSO)
    http://www.deq.state.mi.us/csosso/events_by_rw.asp?lstRW=24&cmdSubmit=Submit
    Last edited by O3H; May-06-17 at 09:35 AM.

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    Where does it all stand as 2018+ is at our doorsteps ?

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