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    Interestingly, went by the construction site today, and there are the usual 5 to 10 workers working away in and around ď the hole ď. I contacted the Hudsons site.com website last week and asked if there was any information on the plans, size, appearance for the site, and have yet to receive any reply. Amusingly, I just watched a special on the building of the 102 story Empire State building in New York City. Construction was started in March 1930, and the building officially opened in May 1931.Boy, did they know how to build skyscrapers in those days. Keeping fingers crossed.

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    It's not exactly apples to apples, as five people died building the Empire State Building. Construction was a lot faster in the 30s and 40s because there were almost no safety laws or worker protections. Plus, building codes were more lax, and the use of concrete in building cores nowadays takes longer to cure than a traditional steel structure like the ESB.

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    Watched the You Tube video from yesterday (10/22) and they have delivered two yellow crane bases to the site, so I think it can be said progress is being made, but ever so slowly. They also made another excavation in the middle that is very slab sided and I think there is a caisson in the middle of it.
    Last edited by bigboat; October-23-19 at 04:45 AM.

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    Yeah, they haven't done anything like that excavation in the middle before. I believe the crane permit starts in November, so they'll probably start cementing the base in, like they did at the 1 Campus Martius expansion.

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    Does anyone know if the crane will be within the footprint of the building or outside the footprint?

    I'm very excited!

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    Perhaps this is related, Gratiot will be closed between Farmer and Woodward Saturday, October 26 to Friday, November 15.

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    We can all get more excited when Bedrock finally announces just what they are building and how tall the tower section will be.

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    Road closure until mid-November for the project:

    https://twitter.com/Detroit_TMC/stat...22115560099840

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboat View Post
    We can all get more excited when Bedrock finally announces just what they are building and how tall the tower section will be.
    They've already done that.

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    Here's a photo from today around 3pm.

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    [QUOTE=Metro25;581928]They've already done that.[/QUOTE
    Actually they haven't. Not a final rendering

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    [QUOTE=stasu1213;581941]
    Quote Originally Posted by Metro25 View Post
    They've already done that.[/QUOTE
    Actually they haven't. Not a final rendering
    Iíd imagine the rendering is what itíll look like, just shorter if they donít find the operator theyíre looking for. Either way, itís still a big project and Iím getting excited for the cranes to go up soon. Thanks for sharing that pic! Gives you a better idea of the progress made than looking at the faraway YouTube footage

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    What have they announced, if they have I must have missed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboat View Post
    What have they announced, if they have I must have missed it.
    Office space and retail in the podium building and retail, residential and hotel space in the tower. That's what the plan has always been.

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    Bedrock has not announced just what the tower portion will look like or who will be the hotel operator. At this stage I would think they would know something.

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    For those of you who are curious as to why Gratiot is closed, these pictures will provide more clues. Also, it's become very apparent where one of the cranes will go, near the middle of the site.



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    Seems like a lot of work for a project that's nothing more than "moving dirt around"...

    Jokes aside, it's kind of cool seeing the sewer pipes exposed

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    A different view where you can see more of the older infrastructure.

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    It looks like there has been A LOT more activity and crew at the Hudsons site in these last few days.. Maybe they found a hotel partner? Or maybe they realized that winter is near?

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    Has anyone had a chance to get a closer view of what I assume is the tower crane foundations (the big square hole in the middle)? I can't quite tell by the videos, but it looks like they are maybe installing the rebar part of the foundation prior to pouring concrete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILKSGAMI View Post
    Has anyone had a chance to get a closer view of what I assume is the tower crane foundations (the big square hole in the middle)? I can't quite tell by the videos, but it looks like they are maybe installing the rebar part of the foundation prior to pouring concrete?
    I would also be curious to see what's going on in regard to electrical power that was run under Gratiot. Unless that crane is diesel powered, they're gonna need a lot of electricity, and watching other videos of that crane going in it looks like they need to spin it around to install it

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    That square section sort of in the middle looks like it could be a crane foundation. They have yet to pour any additional cement into those forms though. Maybe with it being so damn cold now they have to wait for it to warm up a little, cement does not cure when it freezes before it can dry. I continue to wonder why nothing has been announced yet as to what they are building and just what changed to allow them to make a dramatic change after announcing that the tower portion was going to 912' That height would have been an outstanding building for downtown Detroit to have and also indicate that Detroit is on it's way back to becoming relevant again.
    Last edited by bigboat; November-13-19 at 07:20 AM.

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    I think the goal should be to have a crane in the ground before the 1500th post on this thread.

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