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    Quote Originally Posted by stasu1213 View Post
    Another reason why I think the hotel concept for downtown had been the plan now is for unlike apartments, hotels dont have to have a percentage of section 8 people as guest or residents
    They rolled that requirement into City Modern so that the tower could remain upscale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EGrant View Post
    They're probably just "moving dirt around." Kidding.

    Maybe they're connecting power/sewer?
    I'm always hopeful that unexplained things are for cranes, but I honestly have no idea. I'll be downtown tomorrow, I may try to get a closer look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48307 View Post
    I'm always hopeful that unexplained things are for cranes, but I honestly have no idea. I'll be downtown tomorrow, I may try to get a closer look.
    Good luck. The only way you can see into the site is from a neighboring building, and the only one nearby open to the public with a view is the Z Garage. Itís hard to see or photograph details of anything in the site from there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSortzi View Post
    Good luck. The only way you can see into the site is from a neighboring building, and the only one nearby open to the public with a view is the Z Garage. Itís hard to see or photograph details of anything in the site from there.
    Based on his pics, 48307 works in One Campus Martius, probably with QL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NSortzi View Post
    Good luck. The only way you can see into the site is from a neighboring building, and the only one nearby open to the public with a view is the Z Garage. Itís hard to see or photograph details of anything in the site from there.
    The view into that pit from the People Mover is actually quite amazing. But it's quick. I recommend taking a $.75 ride on the loop and getting some video. Maybe even slow motion. Then review the footage after the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrMichigan View Post
    Based on his pics, 48307 works in One Campus Martius, probably with QL.
    I can neither confirm nor deny either of your accusations

    But I can supply you with this picture:

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    Looks like the site they were drilling and filling near the center of the pit, today, is the foundation for one of the tower cranes?





    It'd make sense given that they recently filed the obstruction evaluations with the FAA.
    Last edited by Dexlin; September-20-19 at 07:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexlin View Post
    Looks like the site they were drilling and filling near the center of the pit, today, is the foundation for one of the tower cranes?





    It'd make sense given that they recently filed the obstruction evaluations with the FAA.

    Could be.

    Either way, they still have a ton of drilling equipment in the hole. Once that is cleared out, the other buried piles are dug back up, and the ramp along Woodward starts to go away... then I will feel like they have moved onto the next stage. Still a ways to go...

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    They were 75% done with drilling work in the second week of August, so I don't think it's much longer, at all. They are very close to vertical construction on the block, as in it should start next month at the latest. The ramp will be down there while they are building the crane, of course. Perhaps the digging they've begun at the southwest corner is an access point for when they get rid of the ramp.

    I guess what I'm saying is that it's obvious by change that they are already ramping up and preparing for the next phase of construction.
    Last edited by Dexlin; September-20-19 at 09:54 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dexlin View Post
    They were 75% done with drilling work in the second week of August, so I don't think it's much longer, at all. They are very close to vertical construction on the block, as in it should start next month at the latest. The ramp will be down there while they are building the crane, of course. Perhaps the digging they've begun at the southwest corner is an access point for when they get rid of the ramp.

    I guess what I'm saying is that it's obvious by change that they are already ramping up and preparing for the next phase of construction.
    I don't know if I would count on vertical construction next month. The two crane permits say Nov 1 and Dec 1. Given how this project has been progressing, I think we should consider ourselves lucky if we get one tower crane built before Christmas.

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    Does anyone know at what point they build the lower floors? Is that done later, or in order (sub2, sub1, ground floor, 2, etc.)?

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    Has anyone noticed a really bad odor coming from the Hudson's site? It smells like sulfur or sewage, all day long. Particularly on Gratiot between Woodward and Farmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48307 View Post
    Has anyone noticed a really bad odor coming from the Hudson's site? It smells like sulfur or sewage, all day long. Particularly on Gratiot between Woodward and Farmer.
    Yes, I have most defiantly noticed the smell. I was thinking that they might have accidentally hit something, but its been like that for a little while now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angry_fred View Post
    I don't know if I would count on vertical construction next month. The two crane permits say Nov 1 and Dec 1. Given how this project has been progressing, I think we should consider ourselves lucky if we get one tower crane built before Christmas.
    They are also still covering all the caissons with earth after the drilling and concrete is poured. If the intention was to build on top of them soon, why bother with the effort to continue covering their tops underground?

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    Perhaps they are connecting to sewer in the SW corner causing the smell?

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    The site has stunk all summer. The bottom floor of the previous garage used to have the same awful smell, so I assume it has something to do with that site

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    Watched the YouTube video from September 30 and when they completed drilling a very large caisson in the afternoon, installed a large rebar cage and then filled it with cement from 12 transit mix trucks. That is probably about 120 yards of cement and the top of the new cement could not be seen from this video. Maybe they pour more cement on top when they are closer to vertical construction.

    Maybe the announcement that the height will be scaled back is just a ruse and they will now build a 1000' tower, now wouldn't that be a surprise and I'm all for it!
    Last edited by bigboat; October-01-19 at 06:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboat View Post
    installed a large rebar cage and then filled it with cement from 12 transit mix trucks. That is probably about 120 yards of cement and the top of the new cement could not be seen from this video.
    Costly and significant work, even if we can't see the results. As I've continued to contend, and as backed by my own observations and timelapse photography, the progress is very real and occurs daily.

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    48307 - I agree, there is progress being made, but ever so slowly. I would hope they would have some sort of clue as to what the tower will be by now, but have not heard anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboat View Post
    I would hope they would have some sort of clue as to what the tower will be by now, but have not heard anything.
    That does worry me. I would like the project details to be a lot more firm at this stage. I just really hope we get something really tall and that it's wildly successful, it would pave the way for more development.

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    Maybe Bedrock could use some inspiration from this youtube,, Top 10 tallest buildings going up in Canada.. ( see link below ) , mostly in Toronto...luckily there, when they dig a hole for two years, they have an idea what their going to build when they start , and most importantly, have the financing in place before they carry-on with all the hoopla about it. I realize Detroit is a different market, however it’s always good to know what you’re doing , and how you’re going to build it and exactly what it is going to look like..., before you carry-on about a project that gets the whole metropolitan area excited. Good luck to bedrock on this, they’ve done great things for us downtown, and need to be thanked, hopefully they can continue on the Hudson side project. Keeping fingers crossed.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=w2tQQN7ELos

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    Love @DetBill

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    Gotta love the permits

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    Here it is at the middle of October 2019, observation of YouTube video is yes they are drilling large caisson holes, installing a rebar cage and then dumping at least 120 yards of cement into the hole in the tower area. Was also wondering if anyone has seen/heard anything about the final design decision from the Bedrock boys. I think that redesign has been under wraps for awhile and something had to be known this past spring. I would think they should have some decisions made as to just what they are building and out of fairness to the public should announce something soon. Hopefully, they have been able to encourage some hotel to become part of this even if we are known as the most violent city in the US.

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    ^ thanks for bumping the thread with zero new information.

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