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  1. #1326

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    Protests/ marches are slated this weekend against ICE etc local and national. I am wondering what should replace ICE. Nothing? Borders wide open?

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...gan/718099002/

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    Maxine Waters: 'I have not called for the harm of anybody'

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/polit...nse/index.html

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    Who's to say millennials are not gun owners irrespective of poli-tricks? Who has the stats for that? Sure some are. They just don't NEED the 'permission' of endorsement of the NRA to do so.

    I'm certain that's the narrative of many young people in the D who responsibly own guns: They're not all NRA members or republicans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    I always find it curious when Republicans can acknowledge the obvious trend of millennials having no interest in riding Harleys, but if you try to stretch the same reality to guns and hunting, they just can't see the light.
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-27-18 at 09:07 AM.

  4. #1329

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    I always find it curious when Republicans can acknowledge the obvious trend of millennials having no interest in riding Harleys, but if you try to stretch the same reality to guns and hunting, they just can't see the light.

    Last year I had the pleasure of visiting Great Sand Dunes Nat'l Park in Colorado at the foot of the Sangre de Cristo Mountains. President Trump just allowed this genius move. https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/opini...ler/index.html

    Having spent a couple days in Alamosa, I have no doubt the locals are going to make their feelings known about this very ignorant and short-sighted decision. It's akin to looking at Ole Faithful to your left, and turning right and seeing an oil rig.
    https://www.chieftain.com/news/puebl...bd6a2299b.html
    I am thinking about running for office,should be easy enough all I need to do is stand up and say I hate Trump and will have a platform and people will follow without caring if what I say is true or not.

    Not sure where the whole millennials are not into guns and hunting,it's a sport like anything else,some are into it and some are not,if you go to the shooting range it is not just 80 year old rednecks with guns.

    The articles posted are hard to read on mobile without jumping to other links but the part I did read said the proposed drilling was on land adjacent to the protected lands and over a mile away and not in the protected

    Anybody that hat can look through a sand dune that is as high as a skyscraper,as described,and see a rig over a mile away is pretty good I will admit.

    That decision was made by BLM way before the currant president and remember how BLM operates as a paramilitary unit on its own,remember when the public was calling people criminals when they stood up against BLM?

    Now because it is your agenda you want support?

    Seems to me the Indians were also looking for support when the pipeline was being shoved through thier lands but the publics response was to stand by while they got arrested.

    I guess they were exempt from hope and change.

    Go to parts of California,there are cities where there is a drilling rig on every corner in neighborhoods,they co exist without the pollution and end of the world as described by the opinion piece.

    That is why BLM has the power that they do,so no president can interfere with thier operations on protected land but sense this is not happening on protected land as they are leading to believe,what is the beef? Other then to look for a reason to spread discourse against the current administration when there is nothing there.
    Last edited by Richard; June-27-18 at 08:34 AM.

  5. #1330

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Maxine Waters: 'I have not called for the harm of anybody'


    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/25/polit...nse/index.html
    Notice how CNN try's to justify by useing the words " fueled by frustration"
    People love to comment on how the current president doesn't act like a politician but yet support a life long polition that is trying her best to get people killed and divide the country even further.

    I try not to get into the whole name calling thing but she is living up to the mad max aspect.
    Last edited by Richard; June-27-18 at 08:46 AM.

  6. #1331

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    People love to attack the NRA like it is an inate object,it is not,it is a collective of millions of second amendment supporters channeled into one voice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Notice how CNN try's to justify by useing the words " fueled by frustration"
    People love to comment on how the current president doesn't act like a politician but yet support a life long polition that is trying her best to get people killed and divide the country even further.

    I try not to get into the whole name calling thing but she is living up to the mad max aspect.
    I agree MW is a little loopy but, all this started in 2015 [[and before) when DT starting running for office. He's incited hostility, name callling, bullying, lying, etc. In all my years of voting, this is the most hostile and controversial environment I've seen brought to you by Drumpf himself.

  8. #1333

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    I find it interesting how Detroit gun ownership busts up the assumed 'NRA' connection [[channel)! I'm certain the are some hold-up within the very NRA miffed that black Detroiter's specifically, lawfully own guns! Yeah, I said it.

    So here we are: Detroit gun owners pressed on either side it can be argued. The choice must jettison the opinion and judgement of folks against their gun ownership - ascribed from different agendas, and 'channels'. Hah!

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    People love to attack the NRA like it is an inate object, it is not, it is a collective of millions of second amendment supporters channeled into one voice.
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-27-18 at 09:57 AM.

  9. #1334

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    I agree MW is a little loopy but, all this started in 2015 [[and before) when DT starting running for office. He's incited hostility, name callling, bullying, lying, etc. In all my years of voting, this is the most hostile and controversial environment I've seen brought to you by Drumpf himself.
    So she obviously is not capable of being the better person,yes?

    That is why Trump was elected,was to shake things up,people refer it to controversy when it does not agree with them.

    Do you see what is happening? The girl that just won against the democrat committee head that was destined to replace Maxine,she paged under Ted Kennedy,was a Bernie Sanders campaign organizer and won on the platform of elimination of ICE and everything free,no answers as to how to pay for it,but it sounds good.

    Keep spending all energy on hate Trump and say goodbye to the conservative Democrat party,it is going to boil down to republican or socialist democrats.
    Last edited by Richard; June-27-18 at 09:34 AM.

  10. #1335

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Protests/ marches are slated this weekend against ICE etc local and national. I am wondering what should replace ICE. Nothing? Borders wide open?

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...gan/718099002/
    How much you wanna bet that every single one of those protesters have locks on thier front door and use them to keep people out that they do not want to enter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    So she obviously is not capable of being the better person,yes?

    That is why Trump was elected,was to shake things up,people refer it to controversy when it does not agree with them.

    How about a little dignity from the white house? Voters didn't agree with Bush but you didn't see backlash to this extent. And why? Because he didn't say or do things like a lunatic.

    Here's a few who voted...just to shake things up

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-...a=twitter_page

  12. #1337

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Who's to say millennials are not gun owners? Who has the stats for that? Sure some are. They just don't NEED the endorsement of the NRA to do so. I am certain that is the narrative of many young people in the D who responsibly own guns. They're not NRA members
    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    or
    republicans.


    I never said they weren't gun owners, and I never mentioned the NRA. I mentioned that the long-term trend of interest in gun ownership and hunting among millennials and their children in this country is on a strategic downward trend compared to past generations, just like Harley ownership. This means less...as opposed to none. [[Don't bother with the links, as you'll find 10,000 trying their best to muddle the issue).

    Anybody that hat can look through a sand dune that is as high as a skyscraper,as described,and see a rig over a mile away is pretty good I will admit.
    Not only could you see it, but you can smell it. This is not a city in California....this is a Nat'l Park in Colorado with one road in and out. I wouldn't feel any different about Yosemite, Redwood, Sequoia Nat'l Park, or our own Sleeping Bear Dunes. I prefer my Nat'l Park and nature experiences to be free of the odors of crude oil and other associated environmental damage that goes with the industry [[spills, trucks, equipment, noise, etc..)

    Unlike his predecessors, I doubt President Trump will ever visit a Nat'l Park [[our greatest idea) unless we name one after him. I vote we rename Arches Nat'l Park in Utah to Trump Nat'l Park....in honor of his various foot ailments which led to 5 deferments.

    Maxine Waters is a fool. She's playing right into the hands of the right-wing conspiracy nuts.
    Last edited by Bong-Man; June-27-18 at 10:04 AM.

  13. #1338

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    ^^^ I was applying that as an irony about republicans and others related to the NRA [[which comprise mostly republicans) who while they may not get the drop off in Harley's for Mills, there is not for example a small number of Mils who own guns. But as you said a lessening trend in hunting perhaps.

    Yeah MW is a sea anchor for the dems and whipping post for the current admin. Why did Trump even have to tweet back? Both of them in the mud!

  14. #1339

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bong-Man View Post
    I always find it curious when Republicans can acknowledge the obvious trend of millennials having no interest in riding Harleys, but if you try to stretch the same reality to guns and hunting, they just can't see the light.
    Really, do you "always" find it curious? I was the only person who mentioned that "Millennials probably don't care as much about the Easy Rider mystique as baby boomers" but am not a registered Republican. Perhaps you meant "Republican leaning [[singular), Also, this thread is about Harleys not gun control or hunting.

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    ^ HaHa you did it now by admitting you brush up against the R people,you have entered the twilight zone of not matter what you say and how much proof you provide or how much common sense is involved you are just another R and unless you go ask Alice you will never be redeemed.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2EcWkb26I
    Last edited by Richard; June-27-18 at 11:49 AM.

  16. #1341

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    How about a little dignity from the white house? Voters didn't agree with Bush but you didn't see backlash to this extent. And why? Because he didn't say or do things like a lunatic.

    Here's a few who voted...just to shake things up

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/daily-...a=twitter_page

    I wonder how long the Daily Beast searched to find people who looked the profile they were trying to present?

    http://icantseeyou.typepad.com/my_we...p-50-most.html

  17. #1342

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    Also, this thread is about Harleys not gun control or hunting
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    No, it's about 'Trump World'. Not to be confused with an amusement park or reality show unless one so desires. Carry on !

  18. #1343

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    She said they voted,did the daily ask them?

    There is a crack head around the corner from me,for a rock they will pretty much do or say anything asked and they are not camera shy.

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    Space Force....SpaceBalls

    "i'm surrounded by assholes"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHNB8IHfHdU
    Last edited by Maof; June-27-18 at 12:33 PM.

  20. #1345

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    Everybody is distracted by nuclear but forgetting about how China and Russia have these things floating around up there that can pinpoint taking out a grid or launched missile system from the comfort of a lounge chair.

    We do not currently have anything that can stop them outside of Hans solo.

    If man was ment to fly he would have been born with wings,but yet here we are,nobody knows what is out there and it would be kinda late in the game once one gets zapped or what ever they do to say,o gee.

    The space program spawned and financed the technology we hold today in computers,at the very least it will fund the next generation of flying mobility.

    O wait we are already funding Space X and Musk,nobody complianing on that one which is actually doing the exact same thing that is being proposed and was funded under the previous administration.

    Who paid to to that new tube train in Chicago,we did,we gave him over $40 billion to come up with things like Tesla,Rockets,solar,tube trains etc.
    then he turns around and charges us $20 million a trip into space,on a rocket that we bought in the first place.

    But hey Trump mentioned it so it's insane.

    Sometimes I think our insanity does not hold a candle to the insanity the currant president can come up with.
    Last edited by Richard; June-27-18 at 01:08 PM.

  21. #1346

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    ^ HaHa you did it now by admitting you brush up against the R people,you have entered the twilight zone of not matter what you say and how much proof you provide or how much common sense is involved you are just another R and unless you go ask Alice you will never be redeemed.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ug2EcWkb26I
    Is that directed at me? And you came to that conclusion how?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Is that directed at me? And you came to that conclusion how?
    No that funny looking arrow thingy next to the HaHa or the left of it was pointing up to the previous poster,unless you are one in the same?

    Which would be totaly understandable because some do have split personalities,which I guess could be transformed into a discussion forum,so no disrespect if that applies.

    Or you may have blocked oladub and are not seeing that post #1339 which would also explain the confusion.

    As far as if the content applies to you that would be determined by if you feel that any Trump supporter or precieved supporter is automatically discredited because they support your president who you clearly mention 1364 times that he is not your favorite person.

    Which would in turn translate into the whole If the shoe fits wear it,thing.

    and no the shoe is not a Louis Vuitton,so no ideas.
    Last edited by Richard; June-27-18 at 02:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Everybody is distracted by nuclear but forgetting about how China and Russia have these things floating around up there that can pinpoint taking out a grid or launched missile system from the comfort of a lounge chair.

    We do not currently have anything that can stop them outside of Hans solo.

    If man was ment to fly he would have been born with wings,but yet here we are,nobody knows what is out there and it would be kinda late in the game once one gets zapped or what ever they do to say,o gee.

    The space program spawned and financed the technology we hold today in computers,at the very least it will fund the next generation of flying mobility.

    O wait we are already funding Space X and Musk,nobody complianing on that one which is actually doing the exact same thing that is being proposed and was funded under the previous administration.

    Who paid to to that new tube train in Chicago,we did,we gave him over $40 billion to come up with things like Tesla,Rockets,solar,tube trains etc.
    then he turns around and charges us $20 million a trip into space,on a rocket that we bought in the first place.

    But hey Trump mentioned it so it's insane.

    Sometimes I think our insanity does not hold a candle to the insanity the currant president can come up with.

    I hope you're.not suggesting repriming NASA and all the other agencies in an effort to reinject socialist measures in US government.

    Just leave Musk alone, give him a few kopeks and let him send some Teslas in space for payload. Heck, climate change is just a hoax.

  24. #1349

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    Robert Reich: Is Trump the Worst President in History?
    Robert Reich compares Trump's presidency to the worst presidents in American history.

    Watch More: 7 Signs of a Tyrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    Robert Reich: Is Trump the Worst President in History?
    lol,I did not even follow the link,you know that is just another whiny opinion about how Trump is ruining the country.You can get that just from watching 5 min of TV.

    Speaking of that,was watching an interview of an actress,when asked about her political views she would not comment,but when the five questions came up and she was asked what keeps her up at night her reply was Trump.

    The next interview was an Italian actress,whose mother was also a famous actress,when she was a child her mother was banned from Hollywood and re-entering the united states to see her children,because she had a child out of wedlock.Hypocritical much?

    188 democrats just voted down an actual immigration reform package for the 5th time,they do not want immigration reform ,they just want to use children as little bundles of leverage and then act like they have compassion.

    Markets are up.
    Skills and job training is being addressed.
    More minorities are able to go into business for themselves.
    The banks are lending.
    The real estate market in most places is back at or above pre crash prices.
    The new car market is booming.
    The boat market is through the roof,which only happens when there is an abundance of discretionary income.
    On the world aspect,countries are finally taking a hard stance when addressing refugees and how to address that issue.
    Every country in the world is taking a hard look at their trade practices and the fairness as such.

    The biggest thing is there is confidence in the markets again.

    Where was all of that in the last 8 years?

    Results count BS walks,a lot are walking right now seeking their 15 minutes hanging on to the currant presidents coat tails knowing full well they would be nothing without him.They make it clear that they cannot survive on their own merits and the only thing they have is Trump to obsess over.Heck,my dog could bark hate Trump and would be an instant hero.

    It kills people that the currant president is actually doing what he said he was going to do,they do not want that,they want to be coddled and told everything is going to be okay and patted on the head like a little child while nothing gets done,no wonder the suicide rate is up 50%.

    Sarah goes to lunch and ABC runs an front page that she is quitting based on white house sources,completely false.

    Talk about Trump and fascism? They would not last five seconds under fascism,the press would be the first one shot.

    They are manipulating the public like little puppets and the public eats it up,now ask how could the citizens stand behind Hitler in 1937,I give you the press in 2018 which is exactly how they did it,but yet they call everybody else fascist as a diversionary tactic.

    A group of women form a circle and lift their skirts in order to speak to the currant president through their woman parts in protest,and they call him nasty,I am thinking about saving the pictures so I can send them to their grown children,if they are stupid enough to breed,so they can see what a fine example of being the better person is.

    Trump can be as nasty as he wants but he will never trump the nastiness that the American public can produce on a daily basis.

    Last week the public declared a porn star a hero,this week they are using children at the border while claiming morals.

    The attention span is that of a tweet.The Bronx elects a socialist Democrat because she went to the border and shed a tear while saying she connects with her people,while she was doing that the gang violence in her district reached an all out war.

    But hey free collage for everybody,providing you live long enough,and we can get those nasty middle class people to pay for it.

    Lots of cliches,you reap what you sow,doers keep on doing while whiners keep on whining while being manipulated into the state of not being able to think for themselves,like little balls of clay molded into a conforming little vote for me,I will pat you on the head and tell you it will be okay,package.

    If the currant president keeps you from sleeping at night,please seek help because if he was all of the things you think he is and if all of the things that you think are going to happen,actually happened,you most likely would not last very long anyways.

    There are free help lines,community help centers,community positive thinking support groups,and for those who enjoy the thrill of pushing those to the edge in the self interest of collecting votes or their 15 minutes of false fame,try practicing a little compassion that you so falsely wear.

    At the very least try being a part of the solution instead of the problem.
    Last edited by Richard; June-28-18 at 09:39 PM.

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