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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    "I have long believed that a President can fire an FBI director for any reason, or for no reason at all.”"I’m not going to spend time on the decision or the way it was executed." “I hope you won’t either. It is done, and I will be fine, although I will miss you and the mission deeply.”

    -Former FBI Director James Comey 5/10/17 as reported by CNN

    "I do not have confidence in (Comey) any longer," -Sen. Chuck Schumer 11/2/16
    "Maybe (Comey is) not in the right job," -Pelosi 11/2/16
    Asked if Comey should resign. "Of course, yes," -Harry Ried 12/10/16
    "The FBI director has no credibility," -Rep. Maxine Waters


    This, of course, is not the issue. I'm surprised it keeps being discussed like it's a valid counterpoint. He should have been cut loose, yes. Long ago. But he wasn't. He wasn't until now, much deeper into the investigation. That is an ethical issue. This issue is not that he was canned. It is the timing.

    Let's grow up and think critically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    This, of course, is not the issue. I'm surprised it keeps being discussed like it's a valid counterpoint. He should have been cut loose, yes. Long ago. But he wasn't. He wasn't until now, much deeper into the investigation. That is an ethical issue. This issue is not that he was canned. It is the timing.

    Let's grow up and think critically.
    Trump would have been getting just as much flak from the Left (Probably even more) if he had canned Comey the day after the inauguration.

  3. #53

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    The democrats and media are so stupid and blindly consumed by hate that they don't see the irony of Trump firing Comey "because he's getting too close to finding (the non existent) collusion with the Russians" on the very same day he was receiving the Russian Foreign Minister at the WH. I'm sure they were both laughing at the democrats from behind closed doors over a vodka.

    Trump is pulling their chain and reveling in it.

  4. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by noise View Post
    This, of course, is not the issue. I'm surprised it keeps being discussed like it's a valid counterpoint. He should have been cut loose, yes. Long ago. But he wasn't. He wasn't until now, much deeper into the investigation. That is an ethical issue. This issue is not that he was canned. It is the timing.

    Let's grow up and think critically.
    Let's go to one of your leaders, Maxine Waters, for a dose of her most recent critical thinking. Rep. Waters wanted Comey fired until she didn't but now she has qualified that. "If (Hillary) had won the White House, I believe that given what he did to her, and what he tried to do, she should have fired him. Yes.) -5/10/17

    I don't know if it's 'the' issue, at least with you, but Democratic hypocricy is an issue. It was amazing to witness the turn around of Democratic pillars who days before were lamenting Hillary's loss as being due to Comey all shifting direction and narrative in unison. Now we are to pretend that if only Comey had stayed around a little longer, the failed Russian behind every tree narrative would be flushed out. Personally, I liked detente with Russia even before the Democratic Party became the new home of neocons under SOS Clinton and President Obama.

    While Democrats, save Tulsi Gabbard and maybe Bernie, have been making a mess of detente and are trying to grab hold of any passing barge promising to vilify Trump and Russia, Russia's foreign minister Lavrov reported that his meeting with Trump went well.

    "I would say that our dialogue as of now is free from ideology that was very typical for [Barack] Obama's administration. "Both Mr Trump and the secretary of state of his administration, as I realized today once again, are businesslike people and they want to reach agreements.""The goal of both President Trump and [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin is to have concrete results which will be tangible and which will allow us to alleviate problems, including on the international agenda."


    The US press was so busy trying to make an issue of the legal firing of Comey that it must not have had time to cover the good news that Trump and Lavrov stepped back and away from a nuclear Armageddon. A Trump-Puting meeting is now scheduled for July. The Wash. Post, owned by the world's richest man, described the Lavrov meeting as 'strange'. The NY Times used the word 'awkward'. If Democrats and establishment Republicans want to continue to be irrelevant and have tantrums in their imaginary neocon world, that's ok but try not to break any furniture.

  5. #55

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    I have never done anything wrong in my lifetime.

    Trumpism.101

    # Sue the media

    # Yes, I'm looking at you.
    Last edited by Bigb23; May-13-17 at 07:23 AM.

  6. #56

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    If Democrats and establishment Republicans want to continue to be irrelevant and have tantrums in their imaginary neocon world, that's ok but try not to break any furniture.
    And what world are you from?

    We come in peace, until 10-6- 16.

  7. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnny5 View Post
    Trump would have been getting just as much flak from the Left (Probably even more) if he had canned Comey the day after the inauguration.
    Likely. But we'll never know. The point is that the argument presented was basically garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    Let's go to one of your leaders, Maxine Waters, for a dose of her most recent critical thinking. Rep. Waters wanted Comey fired until she didn't but now she has qualified that. "If (Hillary) had won the White House, I believe that given what he did to her, and what he tried to do, she should have fired him. Yes.) -5/10/17

    I don't know if it's 'the' issue, at least with you, but Democratic hypocricy is an issue. It was amazing to witness the turn around of Democratic pillars who days before were lamenting Hillary's loss as being due to Comey all shifting direction and narrative in unison. Now we are to pretend that if only Comey had stayed around a little longer, the failed Russian behind every tree narrative would be flushed out. Personally, I liked detente with Russia even before the Democratic Party became the new home of neocons under SOS Clinton and President Obama.

    While Democrats, save Tulsi Gabbard and maybe Bernie, have been making a mess of detente and are trying to grab hold of any passing barge promising to vilify Trump and Russia, Russia's foreign minister Lavrov reported that his meeting with Trump went well.

    "I would say that our dialogue as of now is free from ideology that was very typical for [Barack] Obama's administration. "Both Mr Trump and the secretary of state of his administration, as I realized today once again, are businesslike people and they want to reach agreements.""The goal of both President Trump and [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin is to have concrete results which will be tangible and which will allow us to alleviate problems, including on the international agenda."


    The US press was so busy trying to make an issue of the legal firing of Comey that it must not have had time to cover the good news that Trump and Lavrov stepped back and away from a nuclear Armageddon. A Trump-Puting meeting is now scheduled for July. The Wash. Post, owned by the world's richest man, described the Lavrov meeting as 'strange'. The NY Times used the word 'awkward'. If Democrats and establishment Republicans want to continue to be irrelevant and have tantrums in their imaginary neocon world, that's ok but try not to break any furniture.
    I quit reading after you claimed Maxine Waters was one of my leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigb23 View Post
    And what world are you from?

    We come in peace, until 10-6- 16.
    I'm thinking you mean election day in November 2018 but if you have a time machine to repair the last election or whatever happened in October of 2016, I would be more interested in hearing about that.

    If you did mean the election of 11/18, I would argue that Democrats have long ago discarded any fig leaf of peace. I'm thinking about Antifa brown shirt violence, black lives matter riots, people prevented from picking up their youngsters, going home from work, and old people who need to get to a bathroom because of leftist roadblocks, Democrats' newfound reverence for Senator McCain, all the neocons who globbed onto Hillary, and hundreds of thousands of dead and millions of refugee mid-easterners as the result of SOS Clinton/Pres. Obama policies. Consequently, portraying Democrats as coming in peace is a hard sell. Sorry, Bernie, Gabbard, and Kucinich supporters but you are outnumbered.

    I did see this article suggesting that Democrats switch their narrative from the failed anti-Russian diatribe to a Trump is crazy rant because the latter would be easier to set up. "The Resistance changes its attack from "Russian puppet" to "Trump is crazy" - which works best?" Maybe that would work better for you guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    I would argue that Democrats have long ago discarded any fig leaf of peace. I'm thinking about Antifa brown shirt violence, black lives matter riots, people prevented from picking up their youngsters, going home from work, and old people who need to get to a bathroom because of leftist roadblocks, Democrats' newfound reverence for Senator McCain, all the neocons who globbed onto Hillary, and hundreds of thousands of dead and millions of refugee mid-easterners as the result of SOS Clinton/Pres. Obama policies.
    I agree with your premise, but a number of those things have nothing to do with Democrats, unfortunately. They should, because they're righteous, but the Democrats aren't interested in being righteous.

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    Tick...tick...tick.....

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    In addition to the Simpson's and Idiocracy premonitions there's also Zaphod Beeblebrox for President.

    "If there's anything more important than my ego on this ship, I want it caught and shot right now,"

    It's mildly disturbing how well the human species predicts these things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    In addition to the Simpson's and Idiocracy premonitions there's also Zaphod Beeblebrox for President.

    "If there's anything more important than my ego on this ship, I want it caught and shot right now,"

    It's mildly disturbing how well the human species predicts these things.
    HaHaHa... Thanks for reminding me of Douglas Adams great work.
    Human nature hasn't changed since the inception of man.

    Remember the famous words on the cover of the book;
    "DON'T PANIC!"

    I would not jump to any conclusions here either.

  14. #64

    Default Michael Moore Has a New Plan to 'Destabilize' Trump's Presidency

    He's baaaack!

    Michael Moore Has a New Plan to 'Destabilize' Trump's Presidency
    No matter what you throw at him, it hasn't worked. No matter what is revealed, he remains standing. Facts, reality, brains cannot defeat him. Even when he commits a self-inflicted wound, he gets up the next morning and keeps going and tweeting. That all ends with this movie.
    There is some recent new activity on mmflint's YouTube channel. Here's one of many of my recently resurrected favorites:


    Our only hope is for Americans to collectively move but withhold our forwarding address from Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimaz View Post
    He's baaaack!

    Michael Moore Has a New Plan to 'Destabilize' Trump's PresidencyThere is some recent new activity on mmflint's YouTube channel. Here's one of many of my recently resurrected favorites:


    Our only hope is for Americans to collectively move but withhold our forwarding address from Trump.
    Ah man you lost me at Michael Moore. Can't stand that hypocrite.

    Keep in mind, destabilizing the presidency, destabilizes America.
    Oh wait! That's the goal of the Socialists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Ah man you lost me at Michael Moore. Can't stand that hypocrite.

    Keep in mind, destabilizing the presidency, destabilizes America.
    Oh wait! That's the goal of the Socialists.
    Yes. The word for it is: it's Unamerican.

    Freedom is expressed in the wish to own more guns and have less insurance or doing without any. Freedom is all about striking down regulatory measures to ease corporate penetration pretty much like vaseline does: kneel and take it.

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    I liked Michael Moore in his fist movie taking on GM. I was turned off by a more recent movie of Moore's in which he found it necessary to insult dementia ridden Charlton Heston. A couple of years ago, Moore was estimated to be worth about $50M for his efforts. (Power to the people!)

    Why take shots at Americans? Democrats don't support single payer plans either. Otherwise blue states would have legislated their own single payer plans and Obamacare bureaucrats wouldn't have shot down Vermont's proposed single payer plan. Over 50% of US gun homicides are in 2% of US counties so you are probably inadvertently criticizing certain US demographics which could be a 'hate crime' in Canada. In the US, we are instead lucky enough to have guaranteed free speech and freedom of the press. The advantage of allowing people to say ugly things is that sometimes problems can be worked out instead of being driven underground if we are aware of where others are coming from.
    Last edited by oladub; May-20-17 at 11:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    Yes. The word for it is: it's Unamerican.

    Freedom is expressed in the wish to own more guns and have less insurance or doing without any. Freedom is all about striking down regulatory measures to ease corporate penetration pretty much like vaseline does: kneel and take it.
    You've got a weird sense of freedom Canuck if that's the definition you use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oladub View Post
    I liked Michael Moore in his fist movie taking on GM.
    .......
    His take on reality ignores contributing factors that play a role in decision making to conveniently demonize his subject matter, Like GM or the healthcare industry. That is why his movies are not documentaries but instead socialist propaganda. Hypocrite because of the money he makes from the objects he criticizes. IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    His take on reality ignores contributing factors that play a role in decision making to conveniently demonize his subject matter, Like GM or the healthcare industry. That is why his movies are not documentaries but instead socialist propaganda. Hypocrite because of the money he makes from the objects he criticizes. IMHO.

    I get it. Making money from painting an unholy portrait is hypocritical. Is Michael Moore shooting commercials for the car or health industry or is he not doing a simple job of expressing his OHO about such. If he is making money, he must have people opening up to his work and message. Money only gives him more of a structure to keep plugging at subjects he wants to focus on in the future like GM does when designing prototypes.

    Why would.a socialist not be allowed to make money? A true socialist will be more willing to part with some of it so more people benefit from his and others' collective wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    I get it. Making money from painting an unholy portrait is hypocritical. Is Michael Moore shooting commercials for the car or health industry or is he not doing a simple job of expressing his OHO about such. If he is making money, he must have people opening up to his work and message. Money only gives him more of a structure to keep plugging at subjects he wants to focus on in the future like GM does when designing prototypes.

    Why would.a socialist not be allowed to make money? A true socialist will be more willing to part with some of it so more people benefit from his and others' collective wealth.
    Lets just say he could afford to miss a few meals.
    He is not so different than the people he makes movies about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Lets just say he could afford to miss a few meals.
    He is not so different than the people he makes movies about.

    He's had a few drive thru Happy Meals, that goes without saying.

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    Last edited by Jimaz; May-26-17 at 05:31 PM.

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    'Covfefe' tells you all you need to know about Donald Trump

    Then Spicer compounded the mystery with: "The president and a small group of people know exactly what he meant."

    Here's my theory: some unknown prankster (Melania, were you there?) asked Trump if he could use the word "covfefe" in a sentence. Trump, being Trump, couldn't resist the challenge and the rest is history.

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    I am thinking he has a Iphone and it just inserted or changed the words to what it feels like much like mine,he was tired and did not check every word and sent it,of course it is funny about people freak out over a misspelled word like it is a nuclear attack or something.

    Did not CNN fire somebody today ? I am surprised that they even have limits above a 6 year old at times.

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