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[aj3647]

Former Trump Campaign Manger Paul Manafort has been placed under house arrest, as he has been deemed a flight risk.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politi...rts/index.html

According to court documents, Manafort possesses THREE different passports and regularly travels overseas to countries like Cuba and China using fake names.

[bust]

Way too early to celebrate ridding our nation of this cancer, but Garrison Keillor's satire provides some motivation to get the job done:

With Paul Manafort's indictment, Donald Trump is done
He couldn't get elected dogcatcher in New York, his hometown
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...-a8028711.html

[bust]

Former Trump Campaign Manger Paul Manafort has been placed under house arrest, as he has been deemed a flight risk.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/31/politi...rts/index.html

According to court documents, Manafort possesses THREE different passports and regularly travels overseas to countries like Cuba and China using fake names.

Over and over and over again Trump has proven he only surrounds himself with the best.

[canuck]

You guys are hilarious sometimes,you dream things up and try to pass it off as real so you can cling a fantasy.

This is what it must have been like back in the witch burning days,roast somebody based on false perceptions in the hopes that it becomes a reality.

Notice how anybody that they try to reel into a get Trump campaign actualy is still alive to testify and defend themselves,good thing they picked the right team to be on.

They call it a Trump Roast.

[Richard]

They call it a Trump Roast.

Funny ��

They like that because it makes a nice diversion from dealing with the things in life that do not matter,like the schools and infrastructure etc.

Just think if all of the Trump hatred energy was diverted to actually solving the real issues instead of chasing unicorns.

Anyways,I have a question for you.

The currant trend for Haitians around here is to jump border into Canada,these are some that have been in the states 15 plus years,it seems to be a fairly easy endeavor and they get set up quite nicely.

My partner is Haitian and it took him 12 years to become a US citizen going through the legal route,if these guys are booking it to Canada is it going to be any different in the time frame or do they receive citizenship fairly quickly?

Detroit is getting a new immigration facility,you think that it is because of the logistics of the ones that Canada actually rejects.

When they send them back do they send them back to the country of origin I.E. The US even though they were never a US citizen to start with?

[aj3647]

Trump's nominee for top USDA post withdraws over Russia probe:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/02/politi...ure/index.html

Sam Clovis, who was formerly Trump's national campaign co-chair and a top foreign policy advisor to the campaign, has withdrawn from consideration for a Under Secretary cabinet position after it was revealed that he was the Trump Campaign supervisor who approved and encouraged George Papadopoulos to arrange a meeting with the Russian government. Clovis was also the person responsible for bringing Papadopoulos on to the Trump Campaign as a foreign policy advisor.

Another one bites the dust. Better lawyer up, Sam. I'm sure Robert Mueller has some questions for you and you better hope your buddy George wasn't wearing a wire the last time you talked to him. Another one drained from the swamp!

[Richard]

In a Saturday interview with HuffPost, Briskman, a 50-year-old mother of two, said she was stunned that someone had taken a picture of her giving Trump the middle finger.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59fe0ab4e4b0c9652fffa484?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000 313

hahaha serves her right for being nasty.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-middle-finger

The Huff post one does not like to share links,she was fired from her government contractor job for it.

Cannot stand the president and wants impeachment but yet has no problem collecting a paycheck directly related to the government she detests.Well not anymore and rightly so.

Typcial

[Maof]

In a Saturday interview with HuffPost, Briskman, a 50-year-old mother of two, said she was stunned that someone had taken a picture of her giving Trump the middle finger.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59fe0ab4e4b0c9652fffa484?ncid=edlinkushpmg00000 313

hahaha serves her right for being nasty.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-middle-finger

The Huff post one does not like to share links,she was fired from her government contractor job for it.

Cannot stand the president and wants impeachment but yet has no problem collecting a paycheck directly related to the government she detests.Well not anymore and rightly so.

Typcial

And if you continue reading the article, it states that a male employee was reprimanded and kept his job for calling someone a fuckin' libtard asshole on his facebook page with the company's name as his cover photo. How is that fair?

Oh well, I would have flipped him off too.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0c9652fffa484

[Richard]

And if you continue reading the article, it states that a male employee was reprimanded and kept his job for calling someone a fuckin' libtard asshole on his facebook page with the company's name as his cover photo. How is that fair?

Oh well, I would have flipped him off too.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0c9652fffa484

That is what she said also,but there may be more to it then how it is explained in the article.

Common sense would be if you have a problem working for a republican government it is probably not a good idea to be flipping them off and expecting hugs and kisses,the same as it would be if under democrats.

The way things should be are not always the way they are.

[Jimaz]

Attachment 34546
A Year Without a President
Robert Reich

Robert Reich looks at what we've learned so far about the Trump presidency, and who is really running the country.

• Inequality Media

[aj3647]

Nothing says "Drain the Swamp" quite like appointing a Big Pharma CEO to be the new Secretary of Health and Human Services.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...512_story.html

Next up for Trump: Appointing the reanimated corpse of Pablo Escobar to head the DEA.

[Richard]

Nothing says "Drain the Swamp" quite like appointing a Big Pharma CEO to be the new Secretary of Health and Human Services.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...512_story.html

Next up for Trump: Appointing the reanimated corpse of Pablo Escobar to head the DEA.

President Trump has selected Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical executive and a top health official during the George W. Bush administration, to lead the Health and Human Services Department.

From your link,you lied to push your agenda,what a liar,

Former to me means in the past and not currently as you were trying to imply with your lie,

If one applies for a job,most cases they have to provide a resume showing expirence in thier past work history,what did you expect,he would hire Joe the plumber?

Tomorrow when you wake up your near and dear President will still be Mr Trump,embrace that,give up on your quest in constantly trying to find fault in everything he does because you are upset that evil did not triumph.

Or increase the meds dosage.

You know how you can tell when a plane load of brits are above ? Because you can hear the Whining of the engines.

[canuck]

President Trump has selected Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical executive and a top health official during the George W. Bush administration, to lead the Health and Human Services Department.

From your link,you lied to push your agenda,what a liar,

Former to me means in the past and not currently as you were trying to imply with your lie,

If one applies for a job,most cases they have to provide a resume showing expirence in thier past work history,what did you expect,he would hire Joe the plumber?

Tomorrow when you wake up your near and dear President will still be Mr Trump,embrace that,give up on your quest in constantly trying to find fault in everything he does because you are upset that evil did not triumph.

Or increase the meds dosage.

You know how you can tell when a plane load of brits are above ? Because you can hear the Whining of the engines.

Fee, fye, foe, fum. I smell the alcohol breath through them lines you just done sung.

[Richard]

Fee, fye, foe, fum. I smell the alcohol breath through them lines you just done sung.

Doing shots with Stephen Bronfman in the Caymans.

Other then that I just figured AJs quickness to call others liars deserved a look in the mirror.

[oladub]

Nothing says "Drain the Swamp" quite like appointing a Big Pharma CEO to be the new Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Point well taken. More revolving door politics. My favorite was Elizabeth Fowler who helped the Senate write a Medicare bill guaranteeing high profits to drug companies, then went back to work as a Wellpoint VP overseeing its lobbying activities, then went to work for Senator Max Baucus as the chief architect of Obamacare, and last seen, went to work in a senior position at Johnson & Johnson working with its government affairs and policy group.

[aj3647]

President Trump has selected Alex Azar, a former pharmaceutical executive and a top health official during the George W. Bush administration, to lead the Health and Human Services Department.

From your link,you lied to push your agenda,what a liar,

He was President of Eli Lily's U.S. operations until January of this year. So he's been a "former" Big Pharma executive for almost a whole 10 months. Sounds to me like Trump just put an alligator in charge of HHS.

[aj3647]

Point well taken. More revolving door politics. My favorite was Elizabeth Fowler who helped the Senate write a Medicare bill guaranteeing high profits to drug companies, then went back to work as a Wellpoint VP overseeing its lobbying activities, then went to work for Senator Max Baucus as the chief architect of Obamacare, and last seen, went to work in a senior position at Johnson & Johnson working with its government affairs and policy group.

Revolving Door is correct. This is what Azar has been up to for the last ten years, after leaving his post in the Bush Administration.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alex_A...i_Lilly_.26_Co.

In June 2007, Azar joined Eli Lilly and Company as its Senior Vice President of Corporate Affairs and Communications, where he “lead Lilly public affairs and lobbying efforts.”^[10] In 2009, under Azar, the company paid $1.415 billion to settle criminal charges regarding its promotion of Zyprexa for off-label uses.
In April 2009, Azar became Vice President of Lilly’s U.S. Managed Healthcare Services organization and its Puerto Rico affiliate.^[11]
Effective January 1, 2012, Azar became President of Lilly USA, LLC, the largest division of Eli Lilly and Company, and was responsible for the company's entire operations in the United States.^[11] Prices for drugs rose substantially under Azar's leadership.^[12] In connection with the position, Azar served on the board of directors of the Biotechnology Innovation Organization, a pharmaceutical lobby.^[13]

Leading lobbying efforts for Big Pharma? Check.
Massively raising prescription drug prices for consumers? Check
Settling criminal charges related to unscrupulous drug sales? Check

And of course, when his tenure in the Trump Administration is over, he'll slide right back into a cushy seven [[or eight) figure position as a Big Pharma executive or lobbyist. That will be his reward for using his position in HHS to maximize profit margins for his Big Pharma benefactors by removing oversight and regulation.

[oladub]

aj, We are in some agreement on this. Corporatist swamp history goes back a number of presidents. Reagan was busting unions for instance. Woodrow Wilson promoted the federal income tax thereby transferring much of the tax burden from import corporations onto, eventually, the backs of middle class income tax payers while incentivizing imports to reduce US labor costs. Trump's administration is as riddled with Goldman Sachs' people as the Obama administration was. The one significant place where Trump is still attempting to drain the swamp relative to Republican establishment and Democratic swamp creatures is his attempt to limit cheap foreign labor at home and abroad, eg. TPP, NAFTA, to corporatist interests.

Trump has also been less enthusiastic, by a matter of degrees, about fighting corporate profit proxy wars and resurrecting the cold war with Russia for corporatist interests.

There is one marvelous proposal in the GOP Senate version of the tax reform bill. It's probably too good to survive and may not have Trump's approval. Democrats, of course, disapprove. It would cap home interest deductions at $10,000 while offsetting that with a large expansion in the non-itemized standard deduction. It would transfer tax breaks from the rich to the lower middle class. Let's see who removes that provision. I have already seen one editorial attacking it.

[aj3647]

Trump has also been less enthusiastic, by a matter of degrees, about fighting corporate profit proxy wars and resurrecting the cold war with Russia for corporatist interests.

The opposite of that is true.

FACT: Trump wants to grow the military-industrial complex by orders of magnitude. Trump called for a nearly 10% increase in military spending after taking office and has pledged to grow the size of the military.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/27/u...-military.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/12/trum...t-mnuchin.html

FACT: Our involvement in foreign quagmire wars has increased under Trump. 4000 more troop sent to Afghanistan, a 50% increase over the ~8000 U.S. troops stationed there. More U.S. troops to Syria, deepening our involvement in that war. Additional troop deployments to Iraq. And to top it off, the Trump Administration ended the policy of disclosing troop deployment numbers back in April, so troop surges in foreign war zones can now be kept hidden from the American people

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/w...p-taliban.html

http://time.com/4699178/us-troop-inc...ia-raqqa-isis/

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7662016.html

FACT: Trump has called for improving and expanding the U.S. nuclear arsenal [[you can't get more "Cold War" than that) at a proposed cost of $1.2 trillion dollars over 30 years.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/31/u...al-budget.html

But you're right, Trump isn't using Russia as his boogeyman to justify his plans for massive military spending like Reagan did, he's using Iran and North Korea. End result is the same though. Remind me again, was it Trump or Obama that bombed a Syrian military air base and shot down a Syrian military jet?

The one significant place where Trump is still attempting to drain the swamp relative to Republican establishment and Democratic swamp creatures is his attempt to limit cheap foreign labor at home and abroad, eg. TPP, NAFTA, to corporatist interests.

Trump's only interested in limiting immigration that he personally doesn't profit from. The H2-B visa program for unskilled foreign laborers? Trump expanded it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...for-abuse.html

And of course, it's just a mere coincidence that Trump employs cheap foreign labor at his properties like Mar-a-lago, taking advantage of the H2-B visa program to do it.

https://www.npr.org/2017/07/20/53838...oreign-workers

When Trump goes to the "Florida White House", he's literally waited on hand and foot by foreigners. I guess he didn't want to pay a decent enough wage to entice Americans to take those jobs...

[Jimaz]

The Trump Presidency: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver [[HBO)

[313WX]

Gotta love how certain people are expressing so much faux-outrage over Trump appointing a Pharmaceutical CEO to his cabinet, yet these same people were completely silent when the state of California [[against the will of majority of the delegates) appointed a Pharmaceutical lobbyist as their party leader.

[oladub]

aj, You did a good job of responding to something other than my quote. You could get a job at one of the liberal fact finder sights that often answer questions no one asked. The substantial expansion of forces in Afghanistan under Trump is the only thing you mentioned having anything significant to do with "fighting corporate profit proxy wars and resurrecting the cold war with Russia for corporatist interests." Note the word "fighting". Spending money on weapons and readiness, etc. is not fighting. Obama was the first Nobel Peace Prize winner to bomb 11 countries making a mess of Libya doing so. So far, Trump has bombed a Syrian Air Force base and shot down one Syrian plane. I very much disapprove but instead of allowing ISIS to survive as Obama did, Trump and Putin seem intent on ending ISIS. How do those attacks compare with bombing 11 countries, wrecking Libya for no reason, letting ISIS flourish, setting in motion a plan to overthrow Assad, and driving Russia and China back together as cold war allies against the US? That's Obama's handiwork. Snuffing ISIS is an important key to ending a large measure of conflict and the refugee stream caused and/or allowed by the previous administration.

I think what you were getting at rather than actual acts of war was spending and readiness. I too am wary about wasteful spending but China and Russia have been developing weapons that are in some cases better than ours. During Obama's reign and continuing today, China made advances in supercomputers, aircraft, building islands to expand China's territorial footprint, expanding alliances and infrastructure, etc. while the US military was expanding LGBT rights and deleting references to Islamic terrorism.

[Richard]

He was President of Eli Lily's U.S. operations until January of this year. So he's been a "former" Big Pharma executive for almost a whole 10 months. Sounds to me like Trump just put an alligator in charge of HHS.

If you are the CEO of a airline do you hire the paperboy to fill in for a sick pilot or do you find someone with a bit more experienced?

It does not matter Democrat,Republican,Huey Long [[Bernie), they all hire from within the party and return favors,at the very minimum at least this guy has experience in the realm of his appointment,unlike previous administrations on all sides.

Not everybody can afford to stay at a Holiday Inn express,like yourself, and becomes a instant expert,so some have to rely on past experience,and when they screw up is when it becomes the time to bring it to light.

[oladub]

Trump's only interested in limiting immigration that he personally doesn't profit from. The H2-B visa program for unskilled foreign laborers? Trump expanded it.

And of course, it's just a mere coincidence that Trump employs cheap foreign labor at his properties like Mar-a-lago, taking advantage of the H2-B visa program to do it.
When Trump goes to the "Florida White House", he's literally waited on hand and foot by foreigners. I guess he didn't want to pay a decent enough wage to entice Americans to take those jobs...

aj, Again you are having a little problem with proportions; something endemic among Democrats. Just as bombing an airport and shooting down one plane does not equate hundreds of thousands of Obama policy deaths, Letting in an additional 15K cheaper foreign workers, though also undesirable, falls far short of Obama's flooding the Country with illegal aliens, refugees from foreign countries, and unconstitutional executive legislation in support of Obama's prioritizing foreign interests over those of US workers. As to Trump hiring legal foreign workers, although distasteful and seemingly hypocritical in Trump's case, it is more along the lines of criticizing Republicans who accept Social Security benefits as hypocrites.

For example, "The Obama administration is pressing ahead with plans to boost the number of refugees it will allow into the U.S. as a national debate rages over immigration and security. The increase to 110,000 represents a nearly 30 percent increase over the current fiscal year. It is also a more than 57 percent jump since 2015..Of the 110,000 the U.S. intends to begin admitting at least 40,000 are from the Near East and South Asia, a White House senior administration official said. And most of those are likely to be people escaping the brutal Syrian civil war." -NBC Sept.16, 2016 [[less then 2 months before the election)

That is to say "the brutal civil war" Obama, Kerry, and Hillary stoked. We need more Uzbek diversity lottery winners choosing 23 other immigrants of THEIR choice, why That's a reminder of where Democrats took us. In contrast, Trump has slowed the inflow of 'refugees' from terrorist countries and is trying to cut the number of total refugees in half.

[aj3647]

Gotta love how certain people are expressing so much faux-outrage over Trump appointing a Pharmaceutical CEO to his cabinet, yet these same people were completely silent when the state of California [[against the will of majority of the delegates) appointed a Pharmaceutical lobbyist as their party leader.

Maybe because none of us here live in California?

"fighting corporate profit proxy wars and resurrecting the cold war with Russia for corporatist interests." Note the word "fighting".

So Trump isn't fomenting hostilities with Iran and North Korea, essentially creating a new Cold War for the 21st Century? Hell, the psychopath even threatened to use U.S. military force against Venezuela.

You say Obama "bombed 11 countries." Since you seem to count every country that Obama launched even a single strike or operation in over the course of 8 years, I find it curious that you seem to ignore that, under 10 months of Trump, we have also "bombed" or launched military raids into Yemen, Somalia, Libya [[yes, there's that country again!) and other countries. Or do those only count when there's a Democrat in the White House?

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/24/politi...ump/index.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakla_raid

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKBN1DF1ZK


I also like how you compare a full 8 years of Obama's Presidency to just 10 months of Trump's, as if those are equitable. How many air bases or fighter jets of sovereign nations did Obama bomb in his first 10 months in office? Care to answer that, oladub?

Let's just wait and see how many nations Trump has bombed and how many new conflicts he gets us drawn into at the four year mark. He's doing a heckuva job so far of growing the military-industrial complex and expanding our involvement in foreign conflicts while provoking new ones. Even though he ran on an isolationist platform of opposing nation-building and entanglements in foreign conflicts.