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    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    This guy is nuts. Something is definitely wrong with this kook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?...Ctwgr%5Eauthor

    This guy is nuts. Something is definitely wrong with this kook.
    Since Republicans can only afford to lose 2 votes in the Senate and still pass legislation, I'm sure Trump openly feuding with more and more Republican Senators will do wonders for his ability to get his legislative agenda passed. I doubt Trump cares though, his fragile ego takes precedence over everything, including the GOP agenda.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Since Republicans can only afford to lose 2 votes in the Senate and still pass legislation, I'm sure Trump openly feuding with more and more Republican Senators will do wonders for his ability to get his legislative agenda passed. I doubt Trump cares though, his fragile ego takes precedence over everything, including the GOP agenda.
    Donald's agenda is not the Republican agenda. The G.O.P. has been blocking his agenda from day one.
    D.T. is an egotist though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Donald's agenda is not the Republican agenda. The G.O.P. has been blocking his agenda from day one.
    D.T. is an egotist though.
    His "agenda" during the health care fiasco seemed to be nothing more than "pass anything, literally anything, so I can call it a win." If you can call that an agenda. I suspect tax reform will be the same. Trump won't give a fuck what gets passed, as long as he can sign a piece of paper and get to say that he accomplished something. What is on that piece of paper probably won't matter to him. And since he admittedly doesn't like to read and reportedly has only a 5-10 minute attention span, it's quite likely he won't even know *what* he is signing.

    It's a moot point. Republicans in Congress now know that Trump is a faithless negotiating partner. He does not live up to his promises and he flip-flops on a whim. So McConnell and Senate Republicans will simply move on with their agenda as though Trump doesn't exist. And Trump, eager for any "win" he can get his hands on, will sign whatever they send him and the Senate GOP knows that. Trump has lost any leverage he has now within his own party's legislative caucus. Whatever agenda Trump had, if he ever had any at all, is dead. The only agenda that has a chance of passing is that of Mitch McConnell.

    If Republicans successfully pass tax reform, it will be Mitch McConnell's version, not Donald Trump's. Ditto with literally every other issue.
    Last edited by aj3647; October-25-17 at 09:37 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    His "agenda" during the health care fiasco seemed to be nothing more than "pass anything, literally anything, so I can call it a win." If you can call that an agenda. I suspect tax reform will be the same. Trump won't give a fuck what gets passed, as long as he can sign a piece of paper and get to say that he accomplished something. What is on that piece of paper probably won't matter to him. And since he admittedly doesn't like to read and reportedly has only a 5-10 minute attention span, it's quite likely he won't even know *what* he is signing.
    Hit the nail on the head. The way he holds up whatever he signs is what my kids did in grade school during a presentation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    ... Trump won't give a fuck what gets passed, as long as he can sign a piece of paper and get to say that he accomplished something. What is on that piece of paper probably won't matter to him. And since he admittedly doesn't like to read and reportedly has only a 5-10 minute attention span, it's quite likely he won't even know *what* he is signing....
    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    ... D.T. is an egotist though.
    Quick! Somebody slip a letter of resignation under his pen while asking for his autograph!

    He would become an instant hero, applauded by all!
    Last edited by Jimaz; October-27-17 at 10:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Hit the nail on the head. The way he holds up whatever he signs is what my kids did in grade school during a presentation.
    Yesterday he had a "unity" luncheon with Senate Republicans to show the world just how "unified" the GOP is. According to reports from those who were there, it mostly consisted of Trump bragging about himself to a room full of captive Republican Senators.

    I suspect that almost every Republican in that room feels the same way Jeff Flake and Bob Corker do, they just don't have the balls to say it because they want to run for re-election one day and don't want to draw a Bannon-supported primary challenge from the Far Right, which will happen if they ever dare to criticize Trump.

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    Let's not forget this kumbaya moment....hahahahaha. Bizarre to say the least.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GkzsUaQVU

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    .................................................. ..............
    It's a moot point. Republicans in Congress now know that Trump is a faithless negotiating partner. He does not live up to his promises and he flip-flops on a whim. So McConnell and Senate Republicans will simply move on with their agenda as though Trump doesn't exist. And Trump, eager for any "win" he can get his hands on, will sign whatever they send him and the Senate GOP knows that. Trump has lost any leverage he has now within his own party's legislative caucus. Whatever agenda Trump had, if he ever had any at all, is dead. The only agenda that has a chance of passing is that of Mitch McConnell.

    If Republicans successfully pass tax reform, it will be Mitch McConnell's version, not Donald Trump's. Ditto with literally every other issue.
    If anyone is faithless, it is the Republicans like McConnell and Ryan.
    They have been working against the electors that put the spokesman Trump in office. They are now witnessing the backlash as two deeply entrenched comrades are "retiring" instead of facing the election odds and a humiliating defeat.

    At least they don't have Obama Care!

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    If anyone is faithless, it is the Republicans like McConnell and Ryan.
    No, it's Trump. He's repeatedly displayed this by flip-flopping constantly. When Senator Lamar Alexander worked out a bipartisan plan with Democratic Senator Patty Murray for Congress to appropriate funds for the Obamacare insurance subsidies in exchange for loosening the Obamacare requirements for the states, Trump said he supported the deal. About four hours later, he was suddenly opposed to it. Trump did the same thing with the Dreamers. He sat down with Chuck Schumer and said he would support efforts for Congress to legalize their status, in exchange for increased immigration enforcement at the border. Later, Trump flip-flopped and said he was opposed to it [[after the Breitbart crowd flipped the fuck out at the notion of Trump supporting the legalization of the DREAMers).

    He did it with the Republicans first attempt at an Obamacare replacement too, he initially supported it but then opposed it and literally called the legislation "mean." He did with the Alabama Senate race, where Trump ostensibly supported Luther Strange, but in a campaign stump speech for Strange in Alabama, he told the crowd that he might have made a mistake in supporting Strange and that he would back Roy Moore if he won. He actually flip-flopped mid-speech.

    There's a million examples of Trump doing this. He changes his mind on a whim. You can't trust a person who does that. What Trump says today means nothing because he might say the opposite tomorrow.

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    Maybe he opposes things after reading all of the pork stuck in after the original draft,it is kinda hard to say exactly why he opposes anything with having a copy of the draft and a copy of finial bill.

    I guess some have access to what nobody else has.

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    What good is Bipartisanship when the deal sucks for America?

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    Not to be outdone by a good old Spectre status meeting. Especially when one finds himself on the hot seat at about 1:00....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XIwUxmtX5U

    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Let's not forget this kumbaya moment....hahahahaha. Bizarre to say the least.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8GkzsUaQVU
    Last edited by Zacha341; October-25-17 at 05:56 PM.

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    I like Ike. I dump Trump.

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    Trump's stance on taxing 401[[k)s, four days ago:
    There will be NO change to your 401[[k). This has always been a great and popular middle class tax break that works, and it stays!
    — Donald J. Trump [[@realDonaldTrump) October 23, 2017


    Trump stance on taxing 401[[k)s yesterday:

    http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/trump-s...n-401k-limits/

    President Trump said he “may be willing to negotiate” with Congressional Republicans on lowering how much Americans can contribute to their 401[[k) retirement accounts — just two days after promising there will be “no change.”

    The comments, made on the White House lawn as he was walking to Marine One, came hours after US Rep. Kevin Brady, the majority whip and chair of the House Ways and Means committee, defied Trump’s statement from two days earlier.
    From "NO change!" to "willing to negotiate" in just three short days.

    Also notice how Trump's stance changed after he forcefully declared "NO change" to 401[[k)s and then the top Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee openly ignored/defied Trump and said 401[[k)s are on the table?
    Last edited by aj3647; October-26-17 at 07:58 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Trump's stance on taxing 401[[k)s, four days ago:
    There will be NO change to your 401[[k). This has always been a great and popular middle class tax break that works, and it stays!
    — Donald J. Trump [[@realDonaldTrump) October 23, 2017


    Trump stance on taxing 401[[k)s yesterday:

    http://nypost.com/2017/10/25/trump-s...n-401k-limits/



    From "NO change!" to "willing to negotiate" in just three short days.

    Also notice how Trump's stance changed after he forcefully declared "NO change" to 401[[k)s and then the top Republican on the House Ways and Means Committee openly ignored/defied Trump and said 401[[k)s are on the table?

    "Forgive them, for they know not what they do"

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    How did 401k work out for Enron employees,here let me hold your money so I can bank the interest and give you hope for a retirement savings, as long as we do not go bankrupt.

    401k is the biggest scam from the start.

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    Is the World Returning to the Dark Ages? | Salman Rushdie
    Well! Salman Rushdie pretty much predicted the future in his new book, The Golden House, wherein the antagonist is “a ruthlessly ambitious, narcissistic, media-savvy villain sporting makeup and coloured hair." Read into that what you will, but Rushdie here posits that he's baffled by the sudden worldwide rejection of knowledge and the elites. He says that it's not just an invention of the American right wing — that it's a worldwide problem that's helped in large part by the likes of Fox News et al — and he wonders both what gave rise to that and how it will stop. Perhaps he'll have to write a sequel.

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    ^ go figure,somebody on the far left wineing about the right,interesting read on his bio.

    He combines
    magical realism with historical fiction;

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salman_Rushdie



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    Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort has officially been indicted on federal felony charges:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/u...-indicted.html

    He is expected to surrender himself to authorities today. It begins, the first domino falls. Mike Flynn is next, count on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aj3647 View Post
    Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort has officially been indicted on federal felony charges:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/30/u...-indicted.html

    He is expected to surrender himself to authorities today. It begins, the first domino falls. Mike Flynn is next, count on it.
    Remember, don't stop there. Go after Podesta, and the Clinton Foundation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    Remember, don't stop there. Go after Podesta, and the Clinton Foundation.
    What's stopping Jeff Sessions from appointing a special prosecutor to look into Hillary Clinton? You know he has the authority to do that, right? Is he part of the "Deep State conspiracy" too?

    But aside from your red herring about Hillary Clinton, any thoughts on Trump's campaign manager facing TWELVE felony counts, including conspiracy against the United States and being an unregistered agent of a foreign principal?

    Also facing felony charges is another Trump campaign official, Rick Gates, who served as Manafort's deputy when he ran the Trump Campaign.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/30/politi...der/index.html

    Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former Trump campaign official Rick Gates surrendered Monday to Justice Department special counsel Robert Mueller.Gates, 45, is a longtime business associate of Manafort, 68, having worked together since the mid-2000s, and served as his deputy on the campaign. The two were indicted under seal on Friday, a source with direct knowledge of the matter said.
    The indictment against the two men contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading US Foreign Agents Registration Act [[FARA) statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts.
    Interesting to see what information these two men might be willing to trade in order to avoid lengthy prison sentences...

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    More bad news for you guys: former Trump Campaign foreign policy advisor George Papadopolous has plead guilty to charges of lying to the FBI as part of the Russia investigation. Papadopolous lied about the nature and extent of his relationship with agents of the Russian government.

    George Papadopolous, former foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, pleaded guilty for making false statements to the FBI, according to records unsealed today.

    Papadopolous lied to FBI agents “about the timing, extent and nature of his relationships and interactions with certain foreign nationals whom he understood to have close connections with senior Russian government officials,” according to the complaint.

    In a March 2016 email, Papadopoulos offered to set up a meeting between top Russian officials and top Trump campaign officials, under the subject line "Meeting with Russian Leadership -- Including Putin," according to the source.
    So just as a running tally: that's one Trump campaign advisor convicted as part of the Russia probe, two more now facing felony charges.

    EDIT: Papadopoulos has also been indicted on additional felony charges in addition to his guilty plea to the charge of lying to the FBI.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...c00_story.html
    Last edited by aj3647; October-30-17 at 10:44 AM.

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