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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    You're right and I tried. It was like a Twilight Zone episode. Every channel I flipped to, had his mug on it...
    Ain't that the truth....

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    I guess there some folk who don't like the orange man's management style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The previous president had little to talk about so maybe that is why he chose to remain silent,personally I would prefer to know what is going on and what is being accomplished on a daily basis.

    It is kinda like having a corporate daily meeting of where we are at and where we are going.
    Nah....because no other President has been as controversial as the current. As far as wanting to know what's going on, on the daily, I believe DT doesn't even know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by canuck View Post
    Chumpty Dumpty sat on the wall.
    Chumpty had a big fall.

    Fall is upon us.
    We often confuse what we wish for with what is.
    Neil Gaiman,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    Nah....because no other President has been as controversial as the current. As far as wanting to know what's going on, on the daily, I believe DT doesn't even know.
    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.
    - Sun Tzu

    The problem is,you guys believed the whole Trump and his voters were deplorable,that is why you guys will continue to fail,because you are guided by emotions verses reason.

    If you guys have not figured out how to play the game yet there is little chance of figuring it out by 2020.

    Maybe and just maybe you might figure it out by the time of Pence 2024.


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    Lifted from Zerohedge...

    NYTimes 'Outs' Ukraine-Call "Whistleblower" As CIA Officer

    As Chuck Schumer once warned Trump:
    "Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community - they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you... So, even for a practical supposedly hard-nosed businessman, he's being really dumb to do this."
    We wonder how many more ways they have left.

    Last edited by Dan Wesson; September-26-19 at 02:13 PM.

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    NYT is putting out fake information,the whistleblower is protected 50 ways to Sunday.

    There are probably 2 at best who know who they are or who they are affiliated with,that is kinda the whole purpose of the program,

    It is kinda like all of the allegations put out before the release,news media and congress people useing speculation as fact.

    I think we as citizens should place a class action against the Dems and call them out as a clear and present danger to the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    NYT is putting out fake information,the whistleblower is protected 50 ways to Sunday.

    There are probably 2 at best who know who they are or who they are affiliated with,that is kinda the whole purpose of the program,

    It is kinda like all of the allegations put out before the release,news media and congress people useing speculation as fact.

    I think we as citizens should place a class action against the Dems and call them out as a clear and present danger to the United States.

    Don't quit smoking yet.

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    ^ being you brought it up,we could smoke em out and send em up to you guys,they would fit right in.

    Interesting enough and including parents,we were a family of 8,my sister and myself are smokers but we are the only two left the rest were gone by before age 40,outside of my parents who made it to 58 and 70.

    Our time on earth is measured by the seconds,no matter what we do,I do not have a hankering to try a goat but outside of that I just figure when the time comes I will not be able to alter it.

    But there is some kind of 3 week virus going around down here and it is hell having a cold in 110 heat and my lungs are letting me know they do not appreciate the 45 years of smoking.
    Last edited by Richard; September-26-19 at 07:20 PM.

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    Andrew Cuomo says ‘leftist’ Dems pressured Pelosi on impeachment, warns it will go 'nowhere'

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ere/ar-AAHZ6hl

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    This has more potential bends than a barrel of snakes!

    How Mitch McConnell could give impeachment the Merrick Garland treatment

    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/0...achment-007689

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    ^ that’s why Pelosi felt it was safe to move forward with impeachment charade before even reviewing the facts,she knew it would go nowhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    You're right and I tried. It was like a Twilight Zone episode. Every channel I flipped to, had his mug on it...
    Maybe it is because you guys live in the Twilight zone and anything normal outside of its realm is difficult to comprehend?

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    Pelosi says public opinion has shifted in support of the impeachment...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...t-inquiry.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Andrew Cuomo says ‘leftist’ Dems pressured Pelosi on impeachment, warns it will go 'nowhere'

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ere/ar-AAHZ6hl
    Dude wants to be president so bad. And he thinks coming from liberal NY is a liability so even since before he was governor it has been his priority to please swing voters from swing states even before the citizens of his own state he was elected to serve.

    His career offers a masterclass on cynical machiavellian politicking.

    Take your pick from any of the 666,000 results of a Google search for the keywords machievellian and cuomo:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=machiavellian+cuomo
    Last edited by bust; September-29-19 at 02:12 PM.

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    ^^^ Cuomo may have a point pragmatically speaking! I think it's the FAR left political leanings of NY he's trying to distance himself from.

    Perhaps machiavellian meets, or vs. machiavellian!
    Last edited by Zacha341; September-29-19 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    Maybe it is because you guys live in the Twilight zone and anything normal outside of its realm is difficult to comprehend?
    The current administration is NOT normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Wesson View Post
    Lifted from Zerohedge...
    Just a friendly reminder we need to be careful about our sources.

    ZeroHedge is closely tied to the Russian propaganda network.

    See here:

    Is It Propaganda Or Not? An Example of Multi-Source Identification: ZeroHedge.com
    http://www.propornot.com/2016/10/zero-hedge.html

    How Do You Know That Zero Hedge is a Russian Information Operation? Here’s How
    https://streetwiseprofessor.com/how-...ion-heres-how/

    Russian Social Media Influence
    https://www.rand.org/content/dam/ran...AND_RR2237.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Cuomo may have a point pragmatically speaking! I think it's the FAR left political leanings of NY he's trying to distance himself from.

    Perhaps machiavellian meets, or vs. machiavellian!

    I don't consider myself far left, I've lived in NY far longer than he has been governor, and it's my opinion Cuomo will say and do whatever politically suits him best, not his constituents.

    Of course he's far from the only politician guilty of that, and there are many, many who are worse. But he has never and will never get my vote.

    Back to topic, and speaking of cynical machiavellian politickers who are far worse and who have never and will never get my vote: Trump.
    Last edited by bust; September-29-19 at 02:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maof View Post
    The current administration is NOT normal.
    I have to agree with you there,he actually does what he says,which is not normal for politics.

    Maybe that’s why people have such a hard time dealing with him,they are so used to being hoodwinked that it makes them uncomfortable when they are not being.

    Obama was considered normal.

    Hope and Change

    Now you plebs get out of your homes so we can turn them over to the bankers,so I can secure my future after leaving office.

    The Hope was that it did not rain and ruin ones cardboard that they slept on under the bridge.

    The change was,changing the dollar from your hand to the bankers.

    Thats like a hooker saying I love you after receiving payment.

    Same difference we got ....... and paid for it.

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    I hear that. IMO in both cases some Machi traits persist. It's going to be interesting to see how this unfolds. I think Pelosi jumped out there too fast showing her hand. The far left will leave her 'to herself' if they have to adapt the course in removing or beating Trump 2020.

    Cuomo's thinking down the road, a road with plenty of forks and busted bridges ahead, left so by those fighting for and in power right now!

    Quote Originally Posted by bust View Post
    I don't consider myself far left, I've lived in NY far longer than he has been governor, and it's my opinion Cuomo will say and do whatever politically suits him best, not his constituents.

    Of course he's far from the only politician guilty of that, and there are many, many who are worse. But he has never and will never get my vote.

    Back to topic, and speaking of cynical machiavellian politickers who are far worse and who have never and will never get my vote: Trump.
    Last edited by Zacha341; September-30-19 at 01:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bust View Post
    Just a friendly reminder we need to be careful about our sources.
    Thank you for your concern.

    I am aware of the principles that Edward Bernays and others have put forth.

    I adhere to the concept of, Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.

    In this day and age even the half of what you see is also suspect.
    There is no shortage of adversarial entities out there trying to convince you that their versions of events are correct. Even you.

    To be truthful, along with using MSM I have been pushed into seeking alternative news sources by CNN, MSNBC, NBC, Washington Post, New York Times. In the recent past I have had to adjust sources in Google News because that is all you would see. I would have never known it if were not for the 2016 election. I used to watch MSNBC all the time. Not anymore. No one source of information can be trusted any longer.

    Again, Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.
    Last edited by Dan Wesson; September-30-19 at 12:53 PM.

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    Even google is under investigation for directing search’s to where they choose to send you,mostly to the liberal content,

    Then President Roseavelt won the re-election based on he would not bring the US into WW2,80% of the population did not want to enter.

    Useing back channels he reassured the brits that they would be supported by the US,there was a clerk at the US embassy in London that was secretly making copies of all the communications in order to turn over to the Republicans back in the states.

    8 hours before his flight back to the states word got out and he was picked up by M6 along with 60,000 documents.

    If he had made that flight,Roseavelt would had been immediately removed from office and history would have changed.

    When we look at what is happening in the realm of politics,if one really delves into history,everything that can happen,has already happened in the past but they lead you to believe that everything happening is unprecedented.

    When we see the economy impacts elections it is because in spite of serving 3 terms in the White House and with full democratic house and senate,Roseavelts tenure was considered by many a failure because he could never pull the working class out of the throws of the depression.
    Last edited by Richard; September-30-19 at 01:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    When we look at what is happening in the realm of politics,if one really delves into history,everything that can happen,has already happened in the past but they lead you to believe that everything happening is unprecedented.
    HA...

    I was listening to Charlie LeDuff's latest podcast today and he had a local fella who is considered a constitutional scholar and he said the exact same thing.

    Charlie and Karen are catching on.

    Talk about alternative news sources.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Andrew Cuomo says ‘leftist’ Dems pressured Pelosi on impeachment, warns it will go 'nowhere'


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ere/ar-AAHZ6hl
    Trump will be impeached by the House of Representatives. The Senate is a different story. IMO McConnell won't bring it to the floor however, I saw him today in an interview and he said he would bring it to the floor like the Senate rules dictate.

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