Welcome To Trump World

[Richard]

LMAO, I don't have a party. I'm not a member of or donor to any political party in the United States or Canada.

Also, you would find that I haven't flipped on anyone.

All the posters I have had positive respectful conversations with through the years I still do.

Those posters I regularly take issue with, are posters, such as yourself, who for years have posted obnoxious, untrue, and sometimes overtly bigoted and hateful views.

I took issue w/those from day one, and haven't changed my turn, nor will I.

You meen like when I posted that Canada is the only country in the G7 that does not have a National school lunch program,and provided links from you own government that proved it.

Then you went post after post after post denying it and telling me my facts were wrong,while coming up with every excuse not to recognize the fact.

Sorry to disappoint you but I know and meet enough Canadians to know you are not an example of or representative as a whole.

I do not expect you to change or have the desire to change you,it is not my job and until you get out of the denial stage you will never change,that would be on you and nobody else.

I do wish you luck though,that has to be a heavy crutch to bear.

Now if you will excuse me,I have to get back to trimming the trees in preparation for the climate change induced hurricane season that has been around for the last 10,000 years and finish my boat because Florida will be under water like it was 10,000 years ago before climate change lowered the ocean levels.

I thought about building an ark but in the interest of two of everything it would be hard to find two liberals that would not feel like I should do all the work and pay for it while they exercise thier right to space on it because they simply exist.

[Shelby_]

Thomas Jefferson also owned 650 slaves in his lifetime,you might want to find a quote that has a bit more of a reliable source.

Is that what you really believe or what you think the left believes?

By that reasoning why is the left confused about the resistance towards the socialism of America and the candidates that support it.Are we not also doing our duty?

As I said only a few days ago. You need to define your terms. There are many schools of socialism. Many programs are socialistic in nature.

Maybe you are confusing evil with perceived evil,or creating evil in ones mind where it does not exist in order to justify an agenda?

So evil is relative? Hitler didn't think he was evil. It doesn't mean he wasn't. Maybe you're the one who's confused.

[Canadian Visitor]

You meen like when I posted that Canada is the only country in the G7 that does not have a National school lunch program,and provided links from you own government that proved it.

Then you went post after post after post denying it and telling me my facts were wrong,while coming up with every excuse not to recognize the fact.

Sorry to disappoint you but I know and meet enough Canadians to know you are not an example of or representative as a whole.

I do not expect you to change or have the desire to change you,it is not my job and until you get out of the denial stage you will never change,that would be on you and nobody else.

I do wish you luck though,that has to be a heavy crutch to bear.

You never cease to be the fool.

People criticize you for deflection and you change the subject. I'm not sure that even qualifies as irony.

Be that as it may, I have never once denied that Canada does not have a national school lunch program.

In Canada education is a provincial responsibility. I have said that repeatedly.

I have also pointed out that Canada instead gives over $6,000 per year to the lowest income parents, per child.

That we likewise ensure every child [[and adult) has health insurance.

We also invest in other programs. A lunch program would not be practical in most Canadian schools since most Canadians schools don't have cafeterias or kitchens.

We choose other means by which to combat poverty.

Canada isn't perfect, but we do manage to have considerably lower child poverty than the United States. You're portrayal of Canada as somehow starving children is laughably inaccurate and reflects perfectly your own biases and intellectual weakness.

That you again prove you have a hate-on for Canada almost as much as you do for intelligent people and facts, entirely justifies your treatment by the majority here.

[coracle]

A #3235
“.....I lack the grace and intelligence of Michelle Obama”.

Finally you’ve stumbled on something we have in common.

[Richard]

You never cease to be the fool.

People criticize you for deflection and you change the subject. I'm not sure that even qualifies as irony.

Be that as it may, I have never once denied that Canada does not have a national school lunch program.

In Canada education is a provincial responsibility. I have said that repeatedly.

I have also pointed out that Canada instead gives over $6,000 per year to the lowest income parents, per child.

That we likewise ensure every child [[and adult) has health insurance.

We also invest in other programs. A lunch program would not be practical in most Canadian schools since most Canadians schools don't have cafeterias or kitchens.

We choose other means by which to combat poverty.

Canada isn't perfect, but we do manage to have considerably lower child poverty than the United States. You're portrayal of Canada as somehow starving children is laughably inaccurate and reflects perfectly your own biases and intellectual weakness.

That you again prove you have a hate-on for Canada almost as much as you do for intelligent people and facts, entirely justifies your treatment by the majority here.

lol you are seriously going into a debate that posting on a website in a majority Democratic city is not going to produce a majority of democratic views?

You can try and be as intellectual as you want but it does not make up for the lack of common sense that you constantly display.

Is Canada the only G7 country in the nation that does not have a National school lunch program.

While you are accusing others of deflection,stop deflecting and answer the question without telling me to get my facts straight when they have already been provided to you,on an international level.

The rest is totally irrelevant because,you originally told me my facts were wrong on that statement and that statement alone.

9000 posts later you still will not admit it was you that did not have your facts straight while posting that others did not have thier facts straight.

That is what it is about,you can throw in the deflection of I dislike Canadians or what ever else you can come up with,it’s okay we will be your support team,stand up and say .. hi my name is CV and I am a hypocrite,you will feel much better when you come to the understanding that you are just like the rest of us and not perfect.

[Canadian Visitor]

lol you are seriously going into a debate that posting on a website in a majority Democratic city is not going to produce a majority of democratic views?

You said 'your party'. Not the party with which many other posters may be affiliated. That statement was erroneous, you stand corrected.

Is Canada the only G7 country in the nation that does not have a National school lunch program.

I just said that was the case in the post above. Your literacy and comprehension skills are once again on full display. I also explained why, and how unlike your suggestion, this does not result in mass starvation of school children.

.......you will feel much better when you come to the understanding that you are just like the rest of us and not perfect.

1) I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be perfect. Not even once.

2) I am nothing like you, at all, and grateful every day for it.

[Richard]

You said 'your party'. Not the party with which many other posters may be affiliated. That statement was erroneous, you stand corrected.



I just said that was the case in the post above. Your literacy and comprehension skills are once again on full display. I also explained why, and how unlike your suggestion, this does not result in mass starvation of school children.



1) I am not, nor have I ever claimed to be perfect. Not even once.

2) I am nothing like you, at all, and grateful every day for it.

You just keep digging deeper eh

You posted in quotation marks where I posted “my party.”

Show me in my posts where I posted that,instead of making it up as you go along.

I have made it clear in the past that I am independent and support who ever I feel is the best candidate for the job at the time,I supported Trump just as I supported Dugan in Detroit

I am beginning to realize that you may be a little slow but one is a Democrat and one is or ran on the republican ticket.

Can you determine which one was which?

Two for two is not bad in my book.

If it is any consultation,I think you could be a valuable asset and save the US billions.

Instead of a southern border wall,we plant you as a deflection and that would be enough to stop even a nuclear missile.

I never made a suggestion that Canada being the only country in the G7 without a national school lunch program,equals mass starvation of children.

That was your over dramatic interpretation of,maybe guilty conscience?

But that is predictable and no different then saying our president is a racist because he chooses to enforce our immigration laws,not much different then every other politician in the past did or campaigned on but failed to address.

You need a ride to the southern border to stand post?

[jcole]

Melania does seem to be enjoying the G7 this year

[Richard]

^ it’s all in the camera angle,without a zoom out she could be looking at somebody behind the kid.

It looks photoshopped,the clarity in President Trumps suit verses the fuzzy lines of the kids blue/black suit against the red dress,almost shadow like.

I highly doubt she would be giving that look look to him,she has way more power and money to be messing around with little boys.

Scratch that,have to admit it is a sexy look.

https://flipboard.com/@HollywoodLife...lywoodlife.com

[bust]

Trump suggested nuking hurricanes to stop them from hitting U.S.
https://www.axios.com/trump-nuclear-...cf0e3f51c.html

[Richard]

^ I hope they find the traitor that leaks national security meeting details and executes them in public.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/n...clear-weapons/

To be fair, though, there was a time when scientists and government agencies were themselves seriously considering the nuclear option. In a speech delivered at the National Press Club on October 11, 1961, Francis W. Riechelderfer, the head of the U.S. Weather Bureau, said he could “imagine the possibility someday of exploding a nuclear bomb on a hurricane far at sea.” [[Although, comfortingly, Riechelderfer added that the Weather Bureau would not begin acquiring its own nuclear arsenal “until we know what we’re doing.”)

[bust]

You omitted parts like the following from the National Geographic article, which by the way was titled "Nuking Hurricanes: The Surprising History of a Really Bad Idea":

"The research would require setting off multiple nukes at several million dollars a pop. Government officials expressed concern that bombing hurricanes would conflict with U.S. efforts to end atmospheric nuclear tests.

And, there’s also the slight problem that—in the words of Robert Nelson, a physicist who studies nuclear weapons—“It’s just wacky.”

For starters, as NOAA observes, there’s the issue of radioactive fallout, which would “fairly quickly move with the trade winds to affect land areas and cause devastating environmental problems.”

Also, it wouldn’t work. The key obstacle is the amount of energy required. The heat release from a hurricane is equivalent to a 10-megaton nuclear bomb exploding every 20 minutes, NOAA calculates. In order to shrink a Category 5 hurricane into a Category 2 hurricane, you would have to add about a half ton of air for each square yard inside the eye, or a total of a bit more than half a billion [[500,000,000) tons for an eye 25 miles in diameter. “It’s difficult to envision a practical way of moving that much air around,” NOAA says.

Today, international law prohibits us from even trying..."

Most succinctly, according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration:

"Needless to say, this is not a good idea."

Even when it's so obvious there is no defense for an idea, you hilariously cannot help yourself but leap to the defense of this indefensible man.

[bust]

^ I hope they find the traitor that leaks national security meeting details and executes them in public.

Just as a loyal follower marching in goose step behind a wannabe fascist dictator would say.

Sane conservatives are horrified by him too:

Trump's idiotic, immoral rhetorical attack on Denmark
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ack-on-denmark

Maybe whoever shared this did so because he or she thinks it is imperative Trump's insane stupidity is exposed. As if we need yet another example. Leaks like this have been happening since the very beginning of Trump's presidency, and that's how they were explained before:

Anonymous Trump Administration Official Claims Staffers Are Working to 'Thwart' the President
https://time.com/5387876/trump-admin...istance-op-ed/

That said, I agree with those who say anyone who is so horrified of the things Trump says and does has no business serving in the White House in the first place. I often disagree with Bret Stephens, but in this case I don't:

Dear Anonymous Inside the Trump Administration
The problem with the president isn’t that he’s an empty vessel. It’s that he’s a malignant one.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/21/o...icy-syria.html

Besides, although many of the examples that have come out of the White House are the most alarming, it's not like what he openly says in public doesn't give us reason enough to be appalled. In one day alone:

The 7 Most Unhinged Things Trump Said on Wednesday
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...wednesday.html

[Richard]

^ If Trump was the fascist dictator that you claim that he is,without you having the slightest knowledge of how life actually is under a facist dictatorship,you would have been dead a long time ago,just for haveing an opinion.

You are posting commentaries posing as factual news,and buying it.

Are you that blind that you cannot see your liberal policies do not work but yet you accuse others of goose steeping ?

Anybody can say an unnamed source said this or that and make things up,and they have actually been called out on that already.

The headlines alone scream 6 year old working for the National enquirer.

[bust]

^ If Trump was the fascist dictator that you claim that he is...

No, I said "wannabe", as in he wishes he were. He is a man-child in angry denial of his waning mental and physical capacities who stumbled into the presidency when what he really was aiming for was a white nationalist media empire. Although I couldn't describe him as well as Shelby_ did.

And wannabe fascist dictator he sure is too. I am by no means alone in saying so.

Is Donald Trump a fascist? Well, he’s not Mussolini or Hitler just yet – but he’s not far off
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices...-a8949496.html

Donald Trump wants to be a dictator. It’s not enough just to laugh at him
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...t-enough-laugh

Trump Rages About Not Being Able to Do “Whatever He Wants” to the Fed
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...interest-rates

Donald dreams of dictators
In the three years since he first descended his golden escalator to announce his presidential bid, Trump has made clear he yearns for fealty along with authority.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...rongmen-649635

Why the President Praises Dictators
In the pre-Trump era, American support for dictatorships was seldom matched by overt encouragement of authoritarian leaders. Things have changed.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...solini/579652/

There’s something ‘depraved’ about Trump’s ‘dictator envy’: Ex-Obama advisor Larry Summers
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/10/ther...y-summers.html

Trump Goes Full Dictator
Donald Trump isn't just admiring dictators now, he's acting like one.
https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/tr...full-dictator/

How to deal with an American dictator
https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/...n-13901786.php

[[Yes these are commentaries -- of course I know so.)

[Richard]

^ how do you figure he stumbled into the presidency?

He received 306 electoral votes over Hillary’s 163,that is not a stumble.

I would agree with you in saying that you are not alone in feeling like he is a facist dictator,but you are also not alone in not knowing what actually living under a facist dictatorship would be like,if you did you might maybe less inclined to use that term.

Do you see the protests going on in Hong Kong ? Shortly the Chinese government will reach a point when they have had enough,at that point they will start rounding up the protesters and start shipping them back to China.

They knew where this was going before it even started,they had just completed construction on re-education camps for over 100,000 and have been rounding up people in the night ever sense.

They have over 120,000 Muslims in one sector alone in re-education camps and political prisons.

Trump may be a lot of things but a facist dictator is not one of them.

He also did not get into the White House by himself,he also had 53 million supporters along the way that would appear to have the opposite views as you do.

Until you can recognize he is your president,weather you like it or not,what you have to say has really no relevance.

Do you not find a irony in standing there claiming he is not your president while obsessed with every thing Trump,if he was not your president why would you even care about anything that he does or says.

Thats what people do in life,if they feel somebody has a negative impact on thier life they ignore them and move on.

There is always a minute chance in 2020 that you may get your wish and somebody else ends up there,or you try and impeach him,which actually went over about as well as finding Russians in the bushes.

Personally I care more about and would rather hear what your personal opinions are then some person paid by a newspaper in order to write fluff pieces and click bait.

You and I may never agree on anything,we will never alter the course of the next election,the best we can do is understand why we disagree on different topics and solutions.

It would be nice if we could post actual fact based stuff but everything is agenda based politics with questionable sources on both sides.

The only thing we have left is our opinions and what drives those.

Difference of opinions is what drives this country,the goal is to find medium ground in the middle so we can really make it a better place for everybody.

That is kinda the object of a discussion,there is no rule that says one needs to agree with everybody all of the time.It would suck if it was that way.

[jcole]

^ it’s all in the camera angle,without a zoom out she could be looking at somebody behind the kid.

It looks photoshopped,the clarity in President Trumps suit verses the fuzzy lines of the kids blue/black suit against the red dress,almost shadow like.

I highly doubt she would be giving that look look to him,she has way more power and money to be messing around with little boys.

Scratch that,have to admit it is a sexy look.

https://flipboard.com/@HollywoodLife...lywoodlife.com

"Little Boy"? He's 47, Melania is a year and a half older; she turned 49 in April. That's a lot closer in age than Donnie's 24 yrs older.

[Richard]

^ what does it matter what his age is,why are you comparing ages as compatibility fits for relationships,they are all married.

Lots of foreign people greet with a kiss verses our past handshake form of greeting,it is devious American minds that equal a kiss to something else.

The G7 committee had to tell him to stick to the agenda because he started being up subjects that had nothing to do with the discussion of world economic stability.

Lots of people consider it a complement when thier age it is referred to as younger then they are.

[Maof]

Melania does seem to be enjoying the G7 this year

Donald puckered up as well!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...0516095743.jpg

[oladub]

Trump's idiotic, immoral rhetorical attack on Denmark
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...ack-on-denmark

I missed the mention of "Trump's idiotic, immoral rhetorical attack on Denmark". What exactly did he say about Denmark that qualified as idiotic and immoral?

[Richard]

Donald puckered up as well!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...0516095743.jpg

lol Angela did not seem to mind,notice where she is turning her check which is where it should be planted.

When I was in Iran the first time and saw guys kissing each other on the lips I first thought everybody was gay but then learned it was just how they greet with no intent involved,some you really do not want to shake their hand.

[jcole]

They are a MUCH better match than Melania and Trump.

Donald puckered up as well!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...0516095743.jpg

[bust]

I missed the mention of "Trump's idiotic, immoral rhetorical attack on Denmark". What exactly did he say about Denmark that qualified as idiotic and immoral?

That's not my commentary, that's the title of the article. I think the author explained his assessment well.

But I'll try to add my own opinion.

No one questions the strategic value of Greenland.

It was beyond foolish for Trump to have portrayed the idea as a "real estate deal" and to have characterized Greenland not as an asset, but as a liability that "hurts Denmark very badly". He acted as if we'd be doing Denmark a favor to take it off their hands. That was some clumsy swagger.

What was idiotic was how he handled the Danish Prime Minister's rejection. As explained in the article, Denmark is not only a reliable NATO ally, it is among the US' "9-Eyes" countries who share intelligence against common enemies, and it permits a large US military base of huge strategic importance on Greenland [[they said no both to Russia and to China when they asked for the same).

Like an insolent child unable to accept his flirtations were rejected, he had a tantrum and stormed off, kicking the dirt along the way. Hardly a way to treat a Queen, especially one that is a proven ally. His ego was hurt, and that's all that matters to him, so he put everything else at risk.

He even had the nerve to pout how the Danish prime minister is "nasty" and didn't treat him nicely. That comes from a man who can't go a day without gleefully hurling personal insults on Twitter, before the cameras, and in person. He has no self-awareness.

Immoral? I wouldn't go that far this time. But he has given us countless other examples of that.

Yes, Greenland is very strategically important. Trump just massively F'd that up.

[bust]

It's hard to believe the title of one of Trump's books [[someone wrote it for him) was "Art of the Deal."

In May this year, its ghostwriter suggested it should be taken out of print, or at least recategorized as a work of fiction.

Long before Trump's mishaps since then, that was in response to the revelation that the supposedly great dealmaker lost more than $1.17 Billion -- more than anyone else in US history.

[Richard]

Bust - everything is relevant.

In the grand scheme,him losing 1.17 billion will most likely be recouped in tax write offs,but the biggest thing is he can afford to lose it.

They play with big money taking big risks and big losses when they lose,that’s the game.

We bought the Virgin Islands from Denmark,so it’s not like they do not have a history of selling to us.

We bought Alaska from Russia and like now there was push back and it was referred to Sewards folly because at the time people thought it was an insane idea,who is laughing now?

You never know until you ask and no harm in asking,all they can really do is say no.

The base was strategic in the early 50s when built because it is at the top of the world and it was perfect for early warning radar against a Russian attack.

We have satellites now for early warning and intercontinental missiles and subs with missiles,50 miles away from the main base they built a below the snow nuclear powered complex,it was being used for reasearch and I am not sure if it is still activated.

My guess is we really have no use for it anymore,it costs billions every year to maintain the small force actually left there,so the offer to buy it was really about making a decision on what to actually do with it.

The original base was started in 1941 when Greenland actually put us in charge of thier security,1953 is when they really built a massive complex.

So you have a massive complex that spans 100s of acres,sitting on top of an ice pack where the winds reach 150mph during storms,that technology has replaced.

Demark says no sale,they are smart,they know we will not walk away from it because the Russians or Chinese will grab it,so we are stuck with a base that pumps millions into the local economy as long as we own it,weather it is open or not.

So that really is our option,buy it or keep spending billions on a turd.

If you are going to walk away from it and it will cost X amount of dollars in order to do so,if it is cheaper to buy it you do that and mothball the place.

I say call Denmark’s bluff,putting the socialists on this board aside,who would you want as a bedfellow,China,Russia or the United States?

China and Russia would offer to buy it and weigh the the costs of paying cash verses just taking it military wise.

Would US citizens be willing to go to war with China or Russia over Greenland when we just walked away from it?

I doubt it.

Wait a few months while it sinks in,then the headlines will read

Armed forces committee to review the closure of the Greenland base.