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[jcole]

And still no one responds to Shelby's points; just cheap shots. Like Trump, deflect, deflect, deflect

[Maof]

And still no one responds to Shelby's points; just cheap shots. Like Trump, deflect, deflect, deflect

Yep. She's been "Richard", Coracled" and "Honky Tonked". Welcome to the club Shelby Next up, personal attacks.

[Zacha341]

^^^ Right! LOL! Don't forget [[no matter what your comment) the 'BS' or 'STFU' tossing person.

None the less, welcome again Shelby!

[jcole]

Yep. She's been "Richard", Coracled" and "Honky Tonked". Welcome to the club Shelby Next up, personal attacks.

Those have already started; cross-posted, too.

[Richard]

That’s just following the herd.

It is easy enough to see where the name calling starts,the posts are there to read.

As long as we are calling out posters,CV starts every post out in response to somebody that he/she does not agree with,with a derogatory remark towards the person that they do not agree with.

Then right on cue come the thumbs up supporters,the same ones that complain when the response is derogatory towards them.

The old saying of do not dish it out if you are not prepared to eat it yourself applies.

[Shelby_]

Not only #3215, but I don’t think he shops at the Sal.

Wonder where he buys his fat suits, and giant clown ties then.

Oh I know......China.

[Richard]

Lol you guys wa wa when a poster makes a remark about a candidates clothing choice,then you turn around and do the exact same thing.

And throw the fat aspect in there for good measure.

And still confused as to how and why he became president.

[Shelby_]

So it's kinda like Hillary deleting thousands of official government business e-mails off of her personal server?

Well no....not at all. Let me explain. The Presidential Records Act [[PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. §§ 2201–2207, is an Act of Congress governing the official records of Presidents and Vice President. Hillary Clinton was never a President or Vice President so it would not apply to her.

You guys need to let Hillary go. She had her chance but she ran a weak campaign and she lost. It's time to move on.

[Richard]

Is that kinda like Trump won so people need to move on?

"To be sure, the President's account identifies his office, and his tweets make official statements about the policies of his administration," they said. "But the fact that the President may 'announce the actions of state' through his Twitter account does not mean that all actions related to that account are attributable to the state."

https://blogs.findlaw.com/technologi...tatements.html

[Shelby_]

Lol you guys wa wa when a poster makes a remark about a candidates clothing choice,then you turn around and do the exact same thing.

And throw the fat aspect in there for good measure.

And still confused as to how and why he became president.

The president ridicules people all day every day. Are you suggesting people shouldn't follow his example?

I'm sure you would rather we go high. Unfortunately I lack the grace and intelligence of Michelle Obama.

[Richard]

The president ridicules people all day every day. Are you suggesting people shouldn't follow his example?

I'm sure you would rather we go high. Unfortunately I lack the grace and intelligence of Michelle Obama.

Lol, you sure are on a roll there,it’s Trumps fault he made me do it.

Are you positive that there was not a Russian or two in there egging you on?

That is the difference with Trump supporters,they do not need somebody to think for them or egg them on,they can think for themselves,Interesting concept hugh.

It is well documented on how low the far left is willing to go,usually one starts with morals before attempting to take the higher moral ground.

[coracle]

Welcome to the club Shelby Next up, personal attacks.

What did you have in mind?

How about something really shitty, vitriolic and dripping in personal hatred like the writer of # 3215 espoused in her epistle.....

“He's a draft dodging, pathological liar and an adulterous narcissistic psychopath. He is a grandiose hedonistic megalomaniac.
He is cruel and violent. He lacks empathy, humility, compassion and remorse”.

You mean THAT sort of personal attack?

[Shelby_]

Is that kinda like Trump won so people need to move on?

"To be sure, the President's account identifies his office, and his tweets make official statements about the policies of his administration," they said. "But the fact that the President may 'announce the actions of state' through his Twitter account does not mean that all actions related to that account are attributable to the state."

https://blogs.findlaw.com/technologi...tatements.html

Exactly. As I told Honky Tonk: Hillary lost. You all need to let it go. Why does she occupy so much space in your heads?

[Richard]

Exactly. As I told Honky Tonk: Hillary lost. You all need to let it go. Why does she occupy so much space in your heads?

She occupies about as much space in my head as she does in Washington.

She is a prime example of a failed mindset that some seem to wish to keep alive and keep following that path.

Maybe people bring her up in order to try and understand the thought process that involves standing in front of a train while knowing full well the consequences of it.

Her path was one of failure but yet it is repeated and still followed 24/7 in the media and supporters.

I do not know,maybe instead of the compulsive obsessiveness with the whole anti Trump and his supporters could be channeled outside of that failed process?

[Shelby_]

What did you have in mind?

How about something really shitty, vitriolic and dripping in personal hatred like the writer of # 3215 espoused in her epistle.....

“He's a draft dodging, pathological liar and an adulterous narcissistic psychopath. He is a grandiose hedonistic megalomaniac.
He is cruel and violent. He lacks empathy, humility, compassion and remorse”.

You mean THAT sort of personal attack?

Maybe you should acquaint yourself with the definition of personal.

FWIW, I don't hate Donald Trump. He isn't worth that much emotional investment.

Those are character flaws I've observed in your president. He shows the world who and what he is, every time he opens his mouth.

I'm sorry you didn't see him for who he is.

There's still time to remedy that mistake.

[Richard]

^ yea he has,what another 5 + years to work on that ?

[Shelby_]

She occupies about as much space in my head as she does in Washington.

She is a prime example of a failed mindset that some seem to wish to keep alive and keep following that path.

Maybe people bring her up in order to try and understand the thought process that involves standing in front of a train while knowing full well the consequences of it.

Her path was one of failure but yet it is repeated and still followed 24/7 in the media and supporters.

I do not know,maybe instead of the compulsive obsessiveness with the whole anti Trump and his supporters could be channeled outside of that failed process?

All I know is the last time I gave HRC more than a moments thought was in November 2016 and yet Trump supporters continue to bring her up.

As for "compulsive obsessiveness" concerning Trump. Sorry but I believe opposition to the evils of his administration is a moral obligation. As Thomas Jefferson said, “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”

[Richard]

Exactly. As I told Honky Tonk: Hillary lost. You all need to let it go. Why does she occupy so much space in your heads?

She occupies about as much space in my head as she does in Washington.

She is a prime example of a failed mindset that some seem to wish to keep alive and keep following that path.

Maybe people bring her up in order to try and understand the thought process that involves standing in front of a train while knowing full well the consequences of it.

Her path was one of failure but yet it is repeated and still followed 24/7 in the media and supporters.

I do not know,maybe instead of the compulsive obsessiveness with the whole anti Trump and his supporters could be channeled outside of that failed process?

[Richard]

All I know is the last time I gave HRC more than a moments thought was in November 2016 and yet Trump supporters continue to bring her up.

As for "compulsive obsessiveness" concerning Trump. Sorry but I believe opposition to the evils of his administration is a moral obligation. As Thomas Jefferson said, “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty.”

Thomas Jefferson also owned 650 slaves in his lifetime,you might want to find a quote that has a bit more of a reliable source.

By that reasoning why is the left confused about the resistance towards the socialism of America and the candidates that support it.

Are we not also doing our duty?

Maybe you are confusing evil with perceived evil,or creating evil in ones mind where it does not exist in order to justify an agenda?

[Shelby_]

That is the difference with Trump supporters,they do not need somebody to think for them or egg them on,they can think for themselves,Interesting concept hugh.

That's funny. In my experience, the majority of Trump supporters I've encountered are completely in [[goose) step with everything Trump says and does.

The only poster I've seen here who appears right of center and has questioned Trump is oladub.

It is well documented on how low the far left is willing to go,usually one starts with morals before attempting to take the higher moral ground.

Look Richard, I can make hasty generalizations too:

It is well documented on how low the far right is willing to go,usually one starts with morals before attempting to take the higher moral ground.

[Canadian Visitor]

As long as we are calling out posters,CV starts every post out in response to somebody that he/she does not agree with,with a derogatory remark towards the person that they do not agree with.

Entirely inaccurate. I'll save any derogatory remarks about you for further down the post.

The old saying of do not dish it out if you are not prepared to eat it yourself applies.

Richard, you more than any here, clearly get your feelings hurt when its pointed out that your ideas are almost entirely wrong, without intellectual foundation and that you often resort to bigoted insults and deflection in the face of thoughtful correction.

That is some serious 'snowflakery' if I ever did see it.

If you want respect, be respectful.

It would be a new tack for you, or the other pair.

Try not insulting Democrats or Canadians or Mexicans or people who walk upright....just because they're different from you.

Try accepting correction and learning to apologize for rash and ill-conceived views.

Try learning to say "Thank you, I learned something new today". You'll find it would garner a much more positive response than your current offerings.

[Canadian Visitor]

The only poster I've seen here who appears right of center and has questioned Trump is oladub.

Oladub's political bent is certainly a clear one; but he can be, and usually is, polite and respectful in his disagreements with others. He's also able to put together cogent arguments, even if I may take issue w/the conclusions he draws sometimes.

Wesley Mouch is another one whose capable of being civil from a right-wing perspective. I find him frustrating because he doesn't like to move off a position even when evidence strongly suggests he's in error.

But he can be polite and respectful and express himself with some nuance as well.

That can't be said for Richard, Coracle or Honky who are pretty much committed to logical fallacy as a goal; bigotry as a value, and hatred as an M.O.

[Canadian Visitor]

That said, there are many excellent posters here.

I now count you among them. I would hope you'll stay and the quality of conversation will improve accordingly.

[Richard]

^ yea until she disagrees with you or has a conflicting viewpoint,then you will flip on a dime.

Of course that is a typical of your party,as Bernie found out the hard way.

I do not have a problem with Canadians,I have a problem with people living in glass houses throwing stones.

But I also take into consideration the mindset that it takes as evidenced by politicians that have a proven track record of not being able to fix local problems in districts that they have had control over for 50 years,and expecting people to believe that they can do it better on s national level.

Then you have people trying to convince others that,that proven track record of failure is in the best interests of the country.

Then when you fail to convince them that failure is not in thier best interests you resort the calling them names,like racists,deplorables or any other diversion that you can think of in order to prove the high level of intelligence that comes from keeping people desperate and sleeping in the streets so you can look like the nice guy when you throw them a bone.

You break somebody’s leg and then expect to be viewed the hero when you fix it.

CV you said you are a buisness consultant,but yet you agreed when the poster wrote that buisnesss should pay employees what they can afford to verses a wage set by the labor market demands.

Do you make that recommendation to the businesses that you consult to?

With that thought pattern,what about the buisness that have a lower profit margin,will they be allowed to pay less,or if a buisness has a low profit year will employees then except a lower wage or no wage if it is a year of no profit?

I guess you did not think that one out very well eh?

[Canadian Visitor]

^ yea until she disagrees with you or has a conflicting viewpoint,then you will flip on a dime.

Of course that is a typical of your party,as Bernie found out the hard way.

LMAO, I don't have a party. I'm not a member of or donor to any political party in the United States or Canada.

Also, you would find that I haven't flipped on anyone.

All the posters I have had positive respectful conversations with through the years I still do.

Those posters I regularly take issue with, are posters, such as yourself, who for years have posted obnoxious, untrue, and sometimes overtly bigoted and hateful views.

I took issue w/those from day one, and haven't changed my turn, nor will I.