Kwame Kilpatrick. The End.

**Lowell** · June-27-16, 10:15 AM

It appears the final song in the Kwame Kilpatrick saga has been sung. His appeal has been rejected by the Supreme Court meaning the lower court convictions will remain in place.

He has been such a big part of the Detroit media discussion for so long it's going to seem a bit strange not to hear about him.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2016...peal/86424366/

**Bobl** · June-27-16, 11:42 AM

I was going to post a negative remark about the Kilpatrick crowd and the McNamara group, but perhaps this is the time for some positivity, even from this old Cass Corridor veteran. We are moving forward, I think!

**belleislerunner** · June-27-16, 11:53 AM

Until President Obama issues him a pardon on January 19 =)

**One Shot** · June-27-16, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by belleislerunner

Until President Obama issues him a pardon on January 19 =)

Just read federal means he must wait 5 years from conviction to ask so we're good there.

**Baselinepunk** · June-27-16, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by belleislerunner

Until President Obama issues him a pardon on January 19 =)

You get on your high hobby horse and chastise a poster on another thread about them pointing out a "black hockey player", then you turn around and re-enforce a negative stereotype regarding the President of the United States and a corrupt former Detroit Mayor.

Typical.

You are the one who should be ashamed of themselves.

**Hermod** · June-27-16, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by One Shot

Just read federal means he must wait 5 years from conviction to ask so we're good there.

No, the President can pardon anyone, anytime. He could stroke a pen tomorrow and pardon Kwame. Somehow, I do not think he is going to do it.

**Bigdd** · June-27-16, 01:58 PM

Barack isn't black,.. he's Indonesian. So even if he was known for acting out of racism,.. there's no reason to believe he would pardon Kwamee.

Now if Kwamee were gay,.. that would be a different story,..

**Hermod** · June-27-16, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bigdd

Barack isn't black,.. he's Indonesian.

SHHHH. Don't talk so loud, you might stir up virulent members of his fan club.

**SyGolden48236** · June-27-16, 05:32 PM

Paragraph 3 in this link from the Department of Justice describes a 5 year waiting period for a Presidential pardon: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardo...d-instructions

Thankfully Barack Hussein Obama will be just a bad memory in 206 days, long before the five year waiting period has elapsed.

**Hermod** · June-27-16, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by SyGolden48236

Paragraph 3 in this link from the Department of Justice describes a 5 year waiting period for a Presidential pardon: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardo...d-instructions

Thankfully Barack Hussein Obama will be just a bad memory in 206 days, long before the five year waiting period has elapsed.

The DOJ won't accept a petition for a presidential pardon without a five year waiting period. You don't need to go through the DOJ process. The president himself has absolute pardon power for federal crimes at any time he wishes. If Kwame's supporters were to whisper in an Obama staffers ears and the staffer tells the president and the president like the idea, he can issue a pardon without reference to DOJ. It is his prerogative as president and is provided for under the Constitution.

Was Kwame convicted of a federal crime or a state crime? Federal crime, the president has pardon power. State crime, the governor has pardon power.

**Cincinnati_Kid** · June-27-16, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by SyGolden48236

Paragraph 3 in this link from the Department of Justice describes a 5 year waiting period for a Presidential pardon: https://www.justice.gov/pardon/pardo...d-instructions

Thankfully Barack Hussein Obama will be just a bad memory in 206 days, long before the five year waiting period has elapsed.

Yeah, and if the Lunatic or the Liar gets in, we really have a lot to look forward to, right?

**SyGolden48236** · June-27-16, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cincinnati_Kid

Yeah, and if the Lunatic or the Liar gets in, we really have a lot to look forward to, right?

While I would prefer a true conservative, rather than Trump, to be my President he is much better than the current occupier of the Oval Office and he would be considerably better than that vile prevaricating Hillary Clinton.

**Baselinepunk** · June-28-16, 10:25 AM

Originally Posted by SyGolden48236

While I would prefer a true conservative, rather than Trump, to be my President he is much better than the current occupier of the Oval Office and he would be considerably better than that vile prevaricating Hillary Clinton.

Oy vey ...

**evergreen** · June-28-16, 04:29 PM

Kwame, like all federal prisoners, is eligible to seek commutation of his sentence. If successful, his sentence could be reduced to time served or simply a shorter length than his original sentence. And yes, the president has the authority to do so. Don't confuse this with a pardon.

**EastsideAl** · June-28-16, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Baselinepunk

You get on your high hobby horse and chastise a poster on another thread about them pointing out a "black hockey player", then you turn around and re-enforce a negative stereotype regarding the President of the United States and a corrupt former Detroit Mayor.

Typical.

You are the one who should be ashamed of themselves.

That's because, as he has shown time and again, he's a race-baiting jerk. Better suited to the Detroit News comments sections than this forum.

**swingline** · June-29-16, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by Baselinepunk

Oy vey ...

Too funny. I was scrolling this thread and uttered out loud the same response to Sy's rationalization of his support for the Donald before I even saw Baseline's reply.

Our former mayor probably will get a pardon/commutation sometime before his sentence ends. His sentence is perhaps the harshest ever given to someone convicted of public corruption. The pardon certainly won't come from President Obama. It won't come for at least a decade. He will have to become a model prisoner and he will have to admit to his guilt. And by participating in the process he will also have to acknowledge the crimes of his co-conspirator and best friend, Mr. Ferguson.

**Towne Cluber** · June-29-16, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by swingline

Our former mayor probably will get a pardon/commutation sometime before his sentence ends. His sentence is perhaps the harshest ever given to someone convicted of public corruption. The pardon certainly won't come from President Obama. It won't come for at least a decade. He will have to become a model prisoner and he will have to admit to his guilt. And by participating in the process he will also have to acknowledge the crimes of his co-conspirator and best friend, Mr. Ferguson.

It's entirely possible that President Obama would shorten Kilpatrick's prison term. Not a pardon though but it would be a mistake either way.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015...dents-combined

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016...48-individuals

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...-reform-120102

**swingline** · June-30-16, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Towne Cluber

It's entirely possible that President Obama would shorten Kilpatrick's prison term. Not a pardon though but it would be a mistake either way.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015...dents-combined

https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2016...48-individuals

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/0...-reform-120102

Any action by President Obama would indeed be a huge mistake. It won't happen though because Mr. Kilpatrick would have to first admit his guilt. It seems that Kilpatrick is a long way from doing that. There's very little chance that he will "fess up" before Obama leaves office.

**lpg** · June-30-16, 03:13 PM

Would like to see Kilpatrick sharing a cell with Ficano. Also saw the 2 YouTube videos about "Free Kwame". Too bad it's Illegal to take a dump in a envelope and mail it to him as a donation.

**DetBill** · June-30-16, 10:58 PM

Yes The President will be a memory shortly but for some of us a good one,, Someone who pushed for equality for all, medical care for all, left the economy on a far more positive note and can actually get up before any national or international audience and speak eloquently, and not find a need to verbally insult and choose childish name rhymes against anyone who disagrees nor try to polarize groups of its own citizens based on the ancestry. I always find it curious,, actually maybe not curious at all that a certain group always finds to say something negative about him and always uses the full Barack Hussein Obama in under the table code speak.. Amazing ... and they talk about agendas..

**Hypestyles** · July-01-16, 08:51 AM

I predict that there will eventually be a TV movie or mini-series, either directly or loosely based on this saga. Already the FX dramatized OJ Simpson trial mini-series [[and the ESPN documentary) apparently received very good ratings.

**compn** · July-02-16, 07:50 PM

yeah but OJ was a celebrity. with a televised court and televised bronco chase.

kwame? just another mayor. like marion barry. did marion ever get a movie ?

what about blago? Blagojevich was Sentenced to 14 Years in Prison. illinoise corruption? think he'll get a commutation? i dont think so.

obama has been very weird about his pardons and commutations and DOJ prosecutions. on one hand he gets the cocaine and crack cocaine sentences normalized and asks something like 20,000 prisoners to ask for a pardon. then on the other hand, only pardons people who have already done 10-20 years, but still leaves them in for the remainder of the year.

http://www.kgw.com/news/investigatio...-pot/229023551

**Lowell** · July-02-16, 09:41 PM

Agree with Compn. Kwame was never a national celebrity, Heisman Trophy winner, NFL superstar, and national TV commentator all followed by a riveting international scale showcase trial. He was just another petty local political crook leeching off a struggling city. He does have a woman in the story with the Beatty affair, but even that's not that interesting or compelling either.

IMO the real story of Kwame, if there is one, is what he could have been had he not succumbed to greed, lust and ego. He was young, brilliant, energetic, charismatic and with all the connections in the world. He could have been the perfect aspirational leader to lead Detroit's revival and more. In the end he would have made far more money than he ever could have stolen and been loved, honored and a legend.

Instead he's just a big man in a tiny cell, separated from his beautiful kids and loyal wife. If there ever is a movie its title should be Why??

It's so sad. What a waste.

**Danny** · July-03-16, 08:14 AM

That's it. KING KWAME, THE BLACK GODFATHER of Detroit is staying in Club Fed in a dark wet danky cell to serve the rest of his sentence. We will see you after 2034! Let's see you can run for mayor or any political office while you in your 60s.

**Zacha341** · July-03-16, 08:47 AM

Yep, yes! YES! What could have been will not be. Sad indeed.

Originally Posted by Lowell

...IMO the real story of Kwame, if there is one, is what he could have been had he not succumbed to greed, lust and ego. He was young, brilliant, energetic, charismatic and with all the connections in the world. He could have been the perfect aspirational leader to lead Detroit's revival and more. In the end he would have made far more money than he ever could have stolen and been loved, honored and a legend.

Instead he's just a big man in a tiny cell, separated from his beautiful kids and loyal wife. If there ever is a movie its title should be Why??

It's so sad. What a waste.