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    Default BREXIT | UK Votes To Leave European Union | Break It Down For Me - What Does It Mean?

    UK votes to leave EU. David Cameron resigns. Crumbled_pavement creates Are You Prepared Pt. XI. What does it all mean? For our economy? Our elections? For the UK? And for the future of the EU. Bring me up to speed.

    Thanks!

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    Buy gold?? What a divorce. This is big!

    Let's see what the BBC and Dailymail.co.uk say about all of this... of course the 'comment' section being most revealing [[where the real news is found)!
    bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36615028

    One stop news-shopping below re. the details and impact [[fiscal and otherwise)!
    dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3657605/UK-pound-takes-wild-ride-EU-referendum-results-come-in.html

    Russia being a bit mum on the subject...?
    bbc.com/news/world-europe-36523251
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-24-16 at 08:17 AM.

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    England and its racist xenophobes behind this are going to wake up with a splitting hangover and find that the hooker has run off with their wallet and shoes. Boris Johnson, their ringleader, thinks will negotiate a free trade agreement with US. Clearly he has no idea of current American temperaments toward free trades, let alone that of even Trump's.

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    The root of BREXIT is UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION and forced unwanted DIVERSITY. The people it's being forced on built their ideal places to live in, and don't want them turned into crap places by ceding them to invaders that are incapable of doing it for themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    England and its racist xenophobes behind this are going to wake up with a splitting hangover and find that the hooker has run off with their wallet and shoes. Boris Johnson, their ringleader, thinks will negotiate a free trade agreement with US. Clearly he has no idea of current American temperaments toward free trades, let alone that of even Trump's.

    A free trade agreement with a newly independent U.K is a no brainer. The warnings by the Obama Administration were nothing more than political posturing in hopes of swaying the election. The only thing likely to hold it up would be all the pork and other political garbage that some in Washington would try to add to it.

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    Omama representing Goldman-Sachs, George Soros, and the gang before Brexit with regard to trade [[thug talk): “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”

    Obama after the Brexit victory:
    "The people of the United Kingdom have spoken, and we respect their decision,""The special relationship between the United States and the United Kingdom is enduring, and the United Kingdom’s membership in NATO remains a vital cornerstone of U.S. foreign, security, and economic policy."

    Trump on the Brexit victory:
    "I think it's a great thing that's happened. It's an amazing vote, very historic.
    "People are angry all over the world. They're angry over borders, they're angry over people coming into the country and taking over and nobody even knows who they are.
    "They're angry about many, many things in the UK, the US and many other places. This will not be the last."

    "I said this was going to happen and I think it is a great thing.
    "Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing.
    I think we're doing very well in the United States also, and it is essentially the same thing that is happening in the United States."

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    Yeah, Trump is brilliant:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lowell View Post
    Boris Johnson, their ringleader.....
    Looks, interestingly, a lot like Trump. Check out pics of him in Zacha's links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie5275 View Post
    Looks, interestingly, a lot like Trump. Check out pics of him in Zacha's links.
    Brothers from different mothers ???

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    The "BREXIT" leave means the any foreigners who invest in any capital property and put their retirement savings any British banks "offshore accounts" will lose a lot of money. Some foreign folks who their hard earned money in Britain as their only hope will see their money and their investment ventures long gone. Folks will lose their jobs. The American dollar will be 2 times more than the British Pound but the prices their will be cheaper than the any foreign currency. Our global economy may slow down a bit but will recover in about a few months unless more European Nations will break away from the EU.

    I'm glad the British create their own "4th of July" or so I say 24th of June is their Independence Day. The European Union is a total economic disaster from the start. I knew its not going to work. And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to be blamed for BREXIT leave. It's European nations still stuck in their flag waving cultural dogmas. They are not modern Romans anymore.
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    Is it? Then are they xenophobes to want to maintain their culture and core infrastructure in addition to extending a hand? I don't reflexively say yes.

    Actually, England by being so open to immigration [[the good and not so good factors therein), yet at a point acknowledging a pending full-point as a country is to be watched as that canary in the coal mine.

    Particularly and practically other countries will respond to their own full-points respective not only to culture, but also in response to and respective of existing populations. Will this response always be captured in the rubric of xenophobia?

    After, all If we want to reference a more 'xenophobic' nation [[as the term is usually applied), Japan fits the bill more appropriately [[both Japan and the UK are islands interestingly). Japans immigration remains un-apologetically low -- seemingly seeking little approval for their position. Pesky that they are so politically incorrect!

    I'm certain [[and would be naive to think otherwise) that there's a perspective that the Brits are simply getting what they deserve from having had their day of power, empiricism and influence across the globe.

    Easy-peasy narrative in a way as it skips detail and galvanizes to some extent the current citizenry aside from the ruling politic blah de blah. But is that it? And if so, what comeuppance are they getting? That alone begs several questions [[umm, the 'comeuppance' that is).

    Anyway, what country does not want to survive it can be argued?

    Immigrants, in their variance, [[unless we believe they all have the same motives and needs -- I don't), seeking relocation of the UK etc. come for the benefits of the existing 'culture'. Do they not?

    Setting aside the British power elite, etc, what do the rank and file citizens say? I'm simply asking some questions that are the elephant in the room re. this.

    Some say frig 'em all and their 'tea time'!? The existential and practical summation of England for some is that the white supremacy scene needed to end. Considering England's global contributions [[many of which we derive our own culture from) I am wondering if that should be the sole consideration?

    Quote Originally Posted by coracle View Post
    The root of BREXIT is UNCONTROLLED IMMIGRATION and forced unwanted DIVERSITY. The people it's being forced on built their ideal places to live in, and don't want them turned into crap places by ceding them to invaders that are incapable of doing it for themselves.
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-26-16 at 02:14 PM.

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    These side-by-side countries sharing this island are not going to stop all their trading 100%. But it will have an impact. Aside from the DOW roller coaster gold went up to over $1300 yesterday. Good day to sell! But yeah, check you investments accordingly. And is England alone in waving flags of dogma? No.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    The "BREXIT" leave means the any foreigners who invest in any capital property and put their retirement savings any British banks "offshore accounts" will lose a lot of money. Some foreign folks who their hard earned money in Britain as their only hope will see their money and their investment ventures long gone. Folks will lose their jobs. The American dollar will be 2 times more than the British Pound but the prices their will be cheaper than the any foreign currency. Our global economy may slow down a bit but will recover in about a few months unless more European Nations will break away from the EU.

    I'm glad the British create their own "4th of July" or so I say 24th of June is their Independence Day. The European Union is a total economic disaster from the start. I knew its not going to work. And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave. It's European nations still stuck in their flag waving cultural dogmas. They are not modern Romans anymore.

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    "And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

    IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. All the cultures have piled in because of their own complete failure at building their own desirable places to live. They want somebody else's

    My wife's family in the north and middle of England have been ousted from their homes by invaders from N. Africa, and they're having to pay taxes to support them, while the unelected assholes in Brussels hold meetings, on unlimited expense accounts, also paid for by the people they're screwing, planning how they can send more to meet the EU quotas.

    BREXIT is the result of the abject failure of diversity and multiculturalism. IT DON'T WORK. The people that want it should get together and do it in their own countries in Africa, S. America, Central America et al. where it won't destroy established societies except their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coracle View Post
    "And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

    IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. ...
    Turkey is partially in Europe; Istanbul, the largest Turkish city is European

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    These side-by-side countries sharing this island are not going to stop all their trading 100%. But it will have an impact. Aside from the DOW roller coaster gold went up to over $1300 yesterday. Good day to sell! But yeah, check you investments accordingly. And is England alone in waving flags of dogma? No.
    Oh! the British is still stuck in their flag waving protestant post victorian culture. Immigration from North Africa and the Middle East has triggered BREXIT not the ecomony. The EU law dictates that any foreign migrants and travel across any European Nations without a visa or a passport. The xenophobic English just don't want any more Muslims from North Africa and Middle East in their lands. Just like the U.S. don't want any Hispanic coming in to our lands.
    Last edited by Danny; June-30-16 at 09:17 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    Turkey is partially in Europe; Istanbul, the largest Turkish city is European
    Ninety percent of the arable land in Turkey is on Asia. The other 5% is in Europe. Therefore Turkey can not be a EU nation because their rest of the land is in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coracle View Post
    "And foreign immigration from North Africa or Middle East is not to blame for BREXIT leave."

    IT'S THE ONLY REASON DANNY; plus from Pakistan, India, W.Indies, Eastern Europe and and and... and soon to be another 80 million Muslims with free access when Turkey is voted into EU, even though it's not European. All the cultures have piled in because of their own complete failure at building their own desirable places to live. They want somebody else's

    My wife's family in the north and middle of England have been ousted from their homes by invaders from N. Africa, and they're having to pay taxes to support them, while the unelected assholes in Brussels hold meetings, on unlimited expense accounts, also paid for by the people they're screwing, planning how they can send more to meet the EU quotas.

    BREXIT is the result of the abject failure of diversity and multiculturalism. IT DON'T WORK. The people that want it should get together and do it in their own countries in Africa, S. America, Central America et al. where it won't destroy established societies except their own.
    I put the world " to be" in my comment I made a typo!

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    Probably a next logical step for "UK" to consider would be to let Scotland "free" as they want to be, so they can join EU. Then England would not only get from under the "welfare" it paid to EU but also the "welfare" it will still pay to Scotland. The 28 EU members could pick up the tab [[sorry 27). Scotland would benefit from getting a greater share of immigrants from EU [[and from England if they want them).
    Scotland could also take back its countrymen from UK; heighten Hadrian's Wall, and get England to pay for it. [[bit of reverse Trump there)
    Last edited by coracle; June-26-16 at 07:19 AM.

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    ?? I think you're missing a few words in your post D... example: "The xenophobic English just want any more Muslims from North Africa and Middle East in their lands."

    Do you believe that any country: mixed, anglo, brown or asian, can never say NO to incoming immigrates without being xenophobic?

    Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Kuwait, and other countries in the middle east and may countries in Africa have not accepted any Syrians.

    Quote Originally Posted by Danny View Post
    Oh! the British is still stuck in their flag waving protestant post victorian culture. Immigration from North Africa and the Middle East has triggered BREXIT not the ecomony. The EU law dictates that any foreign migrants and travel across any European Nations without a visa or a passport. The xenophobic English just want any more Muslims from North Africa and Middle East in their lands. Just like the U.S. don't want any Hispanic coming in to our lands.
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-26-16 at 10:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    These side-by-side countries sharing this island are not going to stop all their trading 100%. But it will have an impact. Aside from the DOW roller coaster gold went up to over $1300 yesterday. Good day to sell! But yeah, check you investments accordingly. And is England alone in waving flags of dogma? No.


    This may be a bit confusing,but anyways,the US economy or the foreign investment and tourism is dependent on the exchange rate.

    If one takes a form of currency and apply that to many nations into one rate,you lose flux,when the US economy is strong and the dollar is strong the US invests in foreign,when we go into a recession or dip in the economy we drop the value of the dollar to encourage foreign investments and tourism in this country which in turn props up our economy.

    If every country is the same on one currency there is no monetary diversity,every country has its up and downs and the ups and downs create diversity.

    It was a form of socialism on a grand scale and if everybody across the world made the same $5 there would be no value.The system needs strong and weak countries to keep the flow going.

    The UK has about the same or even a little less land mass as the state of Florida you bring 50,000 refugees into a country that small and it effects the daily life of every man woman and child,sometimes we forget how some of those countries are smaller then most states in this country.They are fighting for a way of life.

    What would happen if tomorrow 100,000 refugees came to Detroit,it is the same thing on the scale of things,now feed,clothe,house,provide security not only for them but for the existing residents.It would have a massive impact on the city,think about it and kinda put yourself in their shoes.

    When 3 Syrian refugee children raped the 5 year old in Minnesota how many people actually knew about it? It is hard to call somebody a PC correct name when it is in their face everyday.Many of the immigrants are born into violence, it is the only form of action they know.Their daily life was based on taking by force what they needed or wanted to survive.

    I think they did what they needed to do,they work hard for a way of life and that should not be forced to share with another country that chooses to have a different life.

    The words,they and you are not directed to a singular person,generalizations.

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    Yes, very compelling points, adding perspective. These details and considerations are often lost in the general judgement some feel re. UK's immigration situation and beyond. And speaks to why I cannot reflexively state that resistance is always solely xenophobic!

    Quote Originally Posted by Richard View Post
    The UK has about the same or even a little less land mass as the state of Florida you bring 50,000 refugees into a country that small and it effects the daily life of every man woman and child, sometimes we forget how some of those countries are smaller then most states in this country. They are fighting for a way of life.

    What would happen if tomorrow 100,000 refugees came to Detroit, it is the same thing on the scale of things, now feed, clothe, house, provide security not only for them but for the existing residents. It would have a massive impact on the city, think about it and kinda put yourself in their shoes.
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-26-16 at 11:01 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zacha341 View Post
    Yes, very compelling points, adding perspective. These details and considerations are often lost in the general judgement some feel re. UK's immigration situation and beyond. And speaks to why I cannot reflexively state that resistance is always solely xenophobic!
    One more data point: those hundred thousand immigrants are going to be looking for jobs. Most will probably not be native speakers, so they will be hunting for low-skill, low paying jobs. The kind of jobs that the existing poor are looking for.

    If you are one of those fat-cat "1%er" that people hate so much, and you want to keep wages in certain industries low, importing masses of cheap labor is a good way to do it.

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    Well the US narrative often cited is that except for native American's we're all descendants of immigrants [[well not exactly for most of my family - African Americans, eh-hmm), so what is the problem!?
    Last edited by Zacha341; June-26-16 at 12:20 PM.

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    Britain must trigger exit talks in just TWO DAYS, says top EU official as he calls for negotiations to start at summit on Tuesday

    A French minister called on PM David Cameron to be replaced within days

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-official.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by jackie5275 View Post
    Looks, interestingly, a lot like Trump. Check out pics of him in Zacha's links.
    i'd tend to agree...
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