Trump wants Muslims out!

[Danny]

Presidential Candidate Donald Trump wants to make a law to keep all non-American Muslims out if he becomes president. In he midst of radical Jihadist Islam terror attacks in the U.S. and some nations, will Trump proposed "Hadrian's Wall" keep Radical Islam out and make America safer. Or will it effect not only Muslims want to come to the U.S. for a good life and better opportunity effect our relations with the Islam world.

Any thoughts?

[Bobl]

Mr. Trump is a great manipulator and exploiter. His followers are afraid, and fear is a potent political tool. Facts don't matter.
But his nomination would be a gift for the Democratic nominee.

[Honky Tonk]

Presidential Candidate Donald Trump wants to make a law to keep all non-American Muslims out if he becomes president. In he midst of radical Jihadist Islam terror attacks in the U.S. and some nations, will Trump proposed "Hadrian's Wall" keep Radical Islam out and make America safer. Or will it effect not only Muslims want to come to the U.S. for a good life and better opportunity effect our relations with the Islam world.

Any thoughts?

I guess we listen to different news sources. I heard he wanted to stop letting Muslims into the Country until "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

[Pam]

I don't listen to Donald Trump, unless it's comedy related:

https://youtu.be/KU_Jdts5rL0

[oladub]

As Trump pointed out, FDR ended immigration from Germany and Japan after Pearl Harbor. Jimmy Carter also ended immigration from Iran and sent Iranian students home. Carter's sanctions included:"the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly." -President Carter 4/7/80

Trump is in line with FDR and Carter. The outliers are Bush and Obama.

[gazhekwe]

Seems to me, Mr. Trump is intent on pushing the Republican base to the furthest limits of insanity. What will it take? How far must he go before that last crank cracks the whole thing into smithereens?

Rounding up all the Muslims and killing the families to wake up the terrorists didn't work. Will this work?


http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet...ternet-n476156

[coracle]

I don't listen to Donald Trump, unless it's comedy related:

https://youtu.be/KU_Jdts5rL0

That is just brilliant - thanks

[Jimaz]

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• TheMuslimsAreComing.com

Bummer. Looks like it's not playing anymore.

[Zacha341]

Comedic Indeed! The Trump is such a tool. Interestingly from his latest comments, he's drawn a great deal of attention off the president, his inner circle, the waffling, parsing and what not.

That's good for the political flip-flop of focus I suppose. But IMO, Trump's working for the democratic party [[or the ultimate party of self interest) and will shape-shift back at the appropriate time. It's win-win for him no matter what. In the meantime, the repubs are further branded as that pile of fear-mongering ghouls, unless they disassociate with Trump at this point. The republican front-runners must ditch him. Who does he plan as his running mate if he gets the nomination at this point? Exactly...

And so we're again at the teeter-totter, back and forth mode of under-reaction, against over-reaction. SMH...

Translation: Chaos and instability. Observed. Neither of which bow well to dissuade anyone planning an attack. Those, that is, who're far more determined and far less distracted.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch: who's NOT concerned about terrorism here in the US, once you scrape away the pol-i-tricks?

You don't have to be a Trump-pite or repub to question how our safety's being addressed? Rounding up Muslims based on their faith/ religion isn't the answer. Even Trump knows the impossibility of that.

I don't listen to Donald Trump, unless it's comedy related:

https://youtu.be/KU_Jdts5rL0

[noise]

As Trump pointed out, FDR ended immigration from Germany and Japan after Pearl Harbor. Jimmy Carter also ended immigration from Iran and sent Iranian students home. Carter's sanctions included:"the Secretary of Treasury [State] and the Attorney General will invalidate all visas issued to Iranian citizens for future entry into the United States, effective today. We will not reissue visas, nor will we issue new visas, except for compelling and proven humanitarian reasons or where the national interest of our own country requires. This directive will be interpreted very strictly." -President Carter 4/7/80

Trump is in line with FDR and Carter. The outliers are Bush and Obama.

Ignoring the flaws in FDR's & Carter's decisions, there's a difference between citizenship and religion.

[Pam]

Trump picks up support from neo-nazis:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017313950

[Zacha341]

^^^ Yep, the most extreme positions [[right and left) pick up floatsum and trash along the way!

They'll be ditching Trump too if he does not tow their full line of thought. What a mess for the repubs.

Hillary come save us! Eh, could you please.....

[oladub]

Ignoring the flaws in FDR's & Carter's decisions, there's a difference between citizenship and religion.

Yes, religions have gods. My point is that had FDR imported Nazi agents with German refugees, would it have made any difference whether a Nazi would have blown up the Empire State Building or if illegal aliens from Saudi Arabia blew up the World Towers? Occupants would have been just as dead whatever stupid PC talking points the liberal press chooses to repeat about how religions are not states. But the confluence of religion and state can better be explained by the leader of the Islamic State which functions as any other nation with its own army and other government services.

He recently addressed your point: "Where are you in relation to your Prophet [[peace be upon him), whom you claim to emulate, and who spent his whole life [[peace be upon him) as a mujāhid for the cause of Allah, fighting His enemies? His lateral incisor tooth was broken in battle, his forehead was wounded, two rings from his chainmail cut his cheeks, his helmet was broken on his head, and blood ran down his face.""This war is only against you and against your religion. Has the time not come for you to return to your religion and your jihād and thereby bring back your glory, honor, rights, and leadership? Has the time not come for you to know that there is no might nor honor nor safety nor rights for you except in the shade of the Caliphate?… Therefore, O Muslims, seek shelter – after Allah – with the Islamic State.""Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No-one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels." -Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

[G-DDT]

I will still maintain that Trump's role is to be the buffoon Pro-wrestler that huffs and puffs in a huge grotesque bravado to make anyone else look better. He has been attacked as far back as the '80s [[SNL, a scathing R. Crumb comic, Spy magazine, and even the little known David Roter Method bandhttp://www.amazon.com/Beauty-Island-.../dp/B00FDHCCDS). He is no better in his style of gaff than those P.O.S. bumf tabloids from New York [[one of which, a Murdock owned chunk of chazerei, that has been mocked as far back as the late '70s by National Lampoon and SNL's Tim Kazurinski in the early '80s) that responded in an anti-religious fashion to the San Bernardino attacks, and he knows this!

Folks from other countries find him repugnanthttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0f290e52179ff .

Trump wants attention.

Let's stop giving it to him.

[Jimaz]

... a scathing R. Crumb comic, ...

Sorry. I couldn't resist looking that one up.

[G-DDT]

Bob's observation from the same comic.

[coracle]

Obviously G-DDT and Jimaz, the work of world class morons that "write" for neanderthals and never did anything great for anybody. You need to thank god they didn't come over before the Pilgrims or you'd still be hunting buffalo on the plains to eat, and there wouldn't be anybody around to pay your Obomacare.

[EastsideAl]

Who the hell is supporting this guy? I have absolutely no idea what his appeal is. It's hard to imagine anyone less presidential. [[And finding new and different ways to go bankrupt with daddy's seed money in a ridiculously inflated real estate market and in the casino business - until TV bought his obnoxious shtick and saved his ass, that is - isn't really any sort of qualification for the position.) That ranting homeless guy downtown is at least as qualified and makes about as much sense.

[Richard]

He has 39% of the vote so far which gets him nowhere,unless he is a straw man and when the last second comes in and he switches that percentage to somebody else it will give them an edge to win the election.

To me he is just a bored billionaire,I guess after you have bought everything and done everything money can buy,what is a measly 50 mil spent on having fun running for president,it is kinda like one of us spending $20 to go to the movies for some entertainment.

[coracle]

Maybe Mr. Trump has noticed that Obama's close advisor Valerie Jarrett and Hillary's close advisor Huma Abedin are both Muslims and finds it much more than a coincidence. Certainly makes you think don't it!!!

[oladub]

Who the hell is supporting this guy? I have absolutely no idea what his appeal is. It's hard t​o imagine anyone less presidential. [[And finding new and different ways to go bankrupt with daddy's seed money in a ridiculously inflated real estate market and in the casino business - until TV bought his obnoxious shtick and saved his ass, that is - isn't really any sort of qualification for the position.) That ranting homeless guy downtown is at least as qualified and makes about as much sense.

If the election were now, I'd vote third party if it was a Trump - Sanders matchup but I'm not sure if I'd go Trump or third party if Hillary was the candidate. Trump has Hillary's number on foreign policy. ""She is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies. You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt, what happened with Egypt, a total mess.""She was truly — if not the — one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country,""She talks about me being dangerous. She's killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity." Trump nails it. Whatever Trump did with his Daddy's seed money, most accounts have his net worth at $2.5-5B and he claims it is $10B.

[Jimaz]

Maybe Mr. Trump has noticed that Obama's close advisor Valerie Jarrett and Hillary's close advisor Huma Abedin are both Muslims and finds it much more than a coincidence. Certainly makes you think don't it!!!

Can't bear the Bern?

Blame Obama, or Hillary, or — Tinky-Winky!

[coracle]

If the election were now, I'd vote third party if it was a Trump - Sanders matchup but I'm not sure if I'd go Trump or third party if Hillary was the candidate. Trump has Hillary's number on foreign policy. ""She is the one that caused all this problem with her stupid policies. You look at what she did with Libya, what she did with Syria. Look at Egypt, what happened with Egypt, a total mess.""She was truly — if not the — one of the worst secretaries of state in the history of the country,""She talks about me being dangerous. She's killed hundreds of thousands of people with her stupidity." Trump nails it. Whatever Trump did with his Daddy's seed money, most accounts have his net worth at $2.5-5B and he claims it is $10B.

I've had my fill of voting for Republicans; Dole/Bush/Bush/McCain [[Ugh)/Romney only because I could never vote Democrat; but this time I'm voting Trump or nobody. ALL the rest are just politicians that will play by the established "rules" that got us to where we are now. There is no difference between Dem/Rep;they are all closet socialists redistributing to remain in power.

[noise]

Yes, religions have gods. My point is that had FDR imported Nazi agents with German refugees, would it have made any difference whether a Nazi would have blown up the Empire State Building or if illegal aliens from Saudi Arabia blew up the World Towers? Occupants would have been just as dead whatever stupid PC talking points the liberal press chooses to repeat about how religions are not states. But the confluence of religion and state can better be explained by the leader of the Islamic State which functions as any other nation with its own army and other government services.

He recently addressed your point: "Where are you in relation to your Prophet [[peace be upon him), whom you claim to emulate, and who spent his whole life [[peace be upon him) as a mujāhid for the cause of Allah, fighting His enemies? His lateral incisor tooth was broken in battle, his forehead was wounded, two rings from his chainmail cut his cheeks, his helmet was broken on his head, and blood ran down his face.""This war is only against you and against your religion. Has the time not come for you to return to your religion and your jihād and thereby bring back your glory, honor, rights, and leadership? Has the time not come for you to know that there is no might nor honor nor safety nor rights for you except in the shade of the Caliphate?… Therefore, O Muslims, seek shelter – after Allah – with the Islamic State.""Islam was never a religion of peace. Islam is the religion of fighting. No-one should believe that the war that we are waging is the war of the Islamic State. It is the war of all Muslims, but the Islamic State is spearheading it. It is the war of Muslims against infidels." -Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

As stupid as those liberal PC talking points may be, you should be reminded they're more logical than basically anything you've ever posted.

And seriously, it's 2015. "PC" only describes the people using it. And negatively at that.

[oladub]

noise, I don't expect you, as a liberal, to comprehend numbers, scales of magnitude, or quotes but I like to taunt you with them anyway. You prefer to believe the sanguine platitudes of the PC crowd to the actual voice of an Islamic leader. Here is one set of numbers that popped up yesterday for enthusiasts of importing Muslim populations: "Two-thirds of Palestinians support the ongoing wave of stabbings against Israelis, with the same percentage backing a larger armed uprising, a poll released on Monday found.Sixty-seven percent back the use of knives, while 66 percent of those asked said an armed intifada or uprising would "serve Palestinian national interests in ways that negotiations could not", the survey by the respected Palestinian Center for Policy and Survey Research [[PSR) found." -http://www.france24.com/en/20151214-two-thirds-palestinians-support-knife-attacks-poll

Of course, maybe the Obama administration has finally gotten its act together and can better vet refugees than it did with the Muslim couple in San Bernadino or the Tsarnaev family. We're only going to admit the other third, right? And maybe Palestinian refugee children will be less likely to go back to the old country to terrorist finishing schools than the children of Somali refugees Clinton brought in. Anything is possible.