L. Brooks Patterson to stop resettlement in Pontiac of Syrian Refugees

[Newdetroit]

http://www.freep.com/story/news/loca...sing/76008598/

[DetroiterOnTheWestCoast]

His drunk ass is an imminent danger.

[Danny]

Just a Islamophobia setback for Mayor of Oakland County L.B. Patterson. He to separate the wheat from the weeds. Syrians from ISIS, who are fake religious Muslims who mock Islam and Allah for their glory.


BTW, ISIS are like Children of the Corn. Or more like children of the sand.

[Johnnny5]

IMO this refugee security issue has a very simple solution [[At least in regards to reducing the threat of unintentionally accepting clandestine ISIS members). What about increasing the number of refugees we accept, but refusing military age males?

I've watched the footage of the refugees piling into Europe and the vast majority of them appear to be males between 16 and 45. These are exactly the men that need to remain in Syria and fight for their freedom, not flee. It is also the same subset of the population most often responsible for acts of terrorism. By accepting women, children and older males we can both fulfill the moral obligation to assist many that are suffering, but without posing a risk to the U.S population.

[Chicago48]

The solution is to end the fighting in Syria. They all want to go home. They don't want to be out here adrift.
Mr. Patterson is joining the other looneys in his Republican party. They don't know that Syrian refugees are in the country already and have been for about 1 year.

[iheartthed]

Mr. Patterson is joining the other looneys in his Republican party. They don't know that Syrian refugees are in the country already and have been for about 1 year.

If anyone knows this it's him, since the Detroit Metro area has been one of the top 5 destinations for this round of refugees. They're all just grandstanding.

[SaintMe]

IMO this refugee security issue has a very simple solution [[At least in regards to reducing the threat of unintentionally accepting clandestine ISIS members). What about increasing the number of refugees we accept, but refusing military age males?

I've watched the footage of the refugees piling into Europe and the vast majority of them appear to be males between 16 and 45. These are exactly the men that need to remain in Syria and fight for their freedom, not flee. It is also the same subset of the population most often responsible for acts of terrorism. By accepting women, children and older males we can both fulfill the moral obligation to assist many that are suffering, but without posing a risk to the U.S population.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/state-department-only-2-of-syrian-refugees-in-us-are-militar#.ep6wOaQKO

A State Department spokesman says that so-called “military-age males” unattached to families make up just two percent of Syrian refugees admitted to date to the United States.

[Richard]

The solution is to end the fighting in Syria. They all want to go home. They don't want to be out here adrift.
Mr. Patterson is joining the other looneys in his Republican party. They don't know that Syrian refugees are in the country already and have been for about 1 year.

They are here already in small numbers,but we are talking about increasing it to over 200,000 in the next couple of years.

I guess we really do not need to worry about the risk factor though because they are vetted by the United Nations,who have every right to determine what and who is best for this country.

They are also vetted by the FBI who has a stellar history in the past of insuring the internal safety of American citizens.

We have been involved in this middle east stuff sense the 70s,but yet after 9-11 our intelligence agency's were scrambling to hire interpreters for the foreign languages,what does that say about about our level of intelligence,let alone vetting somebody that comes from a country that has been in a war for over 5 years and really has no records to really vett in the first place.

Compassion says okay,send us your women and children and elderly for safety while you help end this so everybody can make that decision afterwards whether to stay or go home.

But then we are talking about a faction in which a woman can and will handle a AK47 just as well as a man,and they will not think twice about strapping a bomb to a child and send them into a crowded mall.

Their ratio is one that we see,it takes one to murder a hundred,who gets to be in that hundred.

It is not a Republican or Democrat thing,we need more then one voice to make the system to work,if we just follow one path then we do not hear all sides of the situation.

To me and to an extent it is not the issue of the refugees but more so of our inability to properly vette them which in itself is a large internal security risk.

One could say okay if only 6 out of 100,000 are going to cause harm it is worth the risk but it goes back to who is going to stand in harms way.

Mexican children are and have been in a drug war where they see dead bodies laying in the street on their way to school or hanging from overpasses on a daily bases,but yet we want to send them back when they look for safety and the ability to live not in fear.

We seem to choose on the side of compassion according to what is at the moment,is that right?

I am thinking at this point halt all relocation,we are going to and up with American boots on the ground,there is no way around it.

If you are between the age 18 and 40 and are willing to join us in arms to help your country,we will provide sanctuary for your sick,elderly,women not able to fight and children until your country is in a place where you can return home.Because if it is going to cost American lives and coalition lives you had better be right along side of them and fight for what you want.

Freedom has always had a price.

My thoughts anyways.

[Richard]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/state-department-only-2-of-syrian-refugees-in-us-are-militar#.ep6wOaQKO

Is this the same State Department that brought us Benghazi ?

For one, State Department officials could not disclose that one of the two U.S. sites attacked in Benghazi was run by the CIA because of its secret designation.

CIA operations in the area included disarming militias, including ones affiliated with Islamist extremist groups, several months after the U.S. military role in toppling Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi. Virtually every U.S. official assigned to Benghazi was based in the CIA annex — where the agency, not the State Department, was in charge of security.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...add_story.html

[Johnnny5]

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/state-department-only-2-of-syrian-refugees-in-us-are-militar#.ep6wOaQKO



http://www.detroityes.com/mb/newrepl...reply&p=493543

And military age men with family? Tamerlan Tsarnev [[The Boston Marathon bomber) came here with his parents as a teenager and was supposedly vetted by the U.S government before receiving asylum here. He had a wife and young daughter at home, but still went on to murder a half dozen Americans.

I'm not opposed to allowing refugees to come here, but why take the risk of admitting young men if we can help without having to do so? If there are 300K plus dead from the fighting in Syria I assume there must be 10's of thousands of women, children and men 45 and over that we can help without needlessly risking our own safety.

[Cliffy]

We would never have these discussions if the US stopped with the "Arab Spring" crap and stopped supporting ISIS along with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar [[Sunni Muslims). Its amazing how ISIS has all these brand new American Humvees and American weapons and they magically can't be stopped. A ragtag group wearing Adidas Flip Flops on Toyota Pickup Trucks with no air force or navy and the US can't do anything haha. Better yet, they sell all the oil to Turkey yet we can't blow up their oil fields and the tankers to stop the funding. Something is not right with Syria and it goes back to the US and Saudi Arabia. The home country of all the hijackers of 9-11

[Richard]

We would never have these discussions if the US stopped with the "Arab Spring" crap and stopped supporting ISIS along with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar [[Sunni Muslims). Its amazing how ISIS has all these brand new American Humvees and American weapons and they magically can't be stopped. A ragtag group wearing Adidas Flip Flops on Toyota Pickup Trucks with no air force or navy and the US can't do anything haha. Better yet, they sell all the oil to Turkey yet we can't blow up their oil fields and the tankers to stop the funding. Something is not right with Syria and it goes back to the US and Saudi Arabia. The home country of all the hijackers of 9-11

I was watching Frontline and they were filming how IS is attacking the Taliban in Afghanistan,they lined up 6 elders kneeling down on a string of explosives and blew them up.

Which kinda makes me wonder if we are using or allowing IS to exist in order to eliminate the Taliban,who we actually supplied to fight the Afghan rebels that were attacking the oil pipeline.

We keep playing these games and then suffer the consequences when they back fire or turn on us when we no longer have a need for their services.

[preserve]

Where is Jack Bauer when we need him?

[Cliffy]

I was watching Frontline and they were filming how IS is attacking the Taliban in Afghanistan,they lined up 6 elders kneeling down on a string of explosives and blew them up.

Which kinda makes me wonder if we are using or allowing IS to exist in order to eliminate the Taliban,who we actually supplied to fight the Afghan rebels that were attacking the oil pipeline.

We keep playing these games and then suffer the consequences when they back fire or turn on us when we no longer have a need for their services.

They are using ISIS for Assad at this point and they are air dropping all these weapons. Saudi Arabia is giving them money and also supplying them weapons that they bought from the US. Check out this link to see how screwed up this is https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...vee/?tid=sm_fb

Its a good time to be making weapons in the US

[Zacha341]

Shssssh... stop bring up old stuff. That's supposed to be kept on the low-low.............

We would never have these discussions if the US stopped with the "Arab Spring" crap and stopped supporting ISIS along with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar [[Sunni Muslims). Its amazing how ISIS has all these brand new American Humvees and American weapons and they magically can't be stopped. A ragtag group wearing Adidas Flip Flops on Toyota Pickup Trucks with no air force or navy and the US can't do anything haha. Better yet, they sell all the oil to Turkey yet we can't blow up their oil fields and the tankers to stop the funding. Something is not right with Syria and it goes back to the US and Saudi Arabia. The home country of all the hijackers of 9-11

[Zacha341]

Yep. What a perceived advantage it must seem to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria to note our distraction ala boiler plate: repub vs. dem. blah-de-blah. They could be no happier.

After a point, and sooner than later, it behooves us to judge and ISIS crisis beyond our partisan divides. Even senator Diane Fienstien [[democratic senator, CA) has pointed out that the ISIS situation is 'not contained'... and needs to be further addressed

Maybe we can take her word for it since she not a repub. No, uh wait maybe she's a shill for the repubs? ........

It is not a Republican or Democrat thing,we need more then one voice to make the system to work,if we just follow one path then we do not hear all sides of the situation.

[Zacha341]

Hah! Interesting. Not too mention there's money to be made for having refugees come to the US, short-term. The long term issues are well, the usual: we'll just kick that can down the road. Just like our national deficit.

If anyone knows this it's him, since the Detroit Metro area has been one of the top 5 destinations for this round of refugees. They're all just grandstanding.

[Lowell]

This is complete consistency for LBP. After all his rise to fame and notoriety came from blocking kids from quality education in the busing days.

[drjeff]

LBP simply doesn't have the power to block anyone from living in Oakland county who can afford it. And all this "blocking" of refugees by states is also meaningless- last I checked, once you're in the US you can travel and/or live wherever you like.

[Richard]

LBP simply doesn't have the power to block anyone from living in Oakland county who can afford it. And all this "blocking" of refugees by states is also meaningless- last I checked, once you're in the US you can travel and/or live wherever you like.

You are free to travel,but the state can say if you are not a legalized citizen or resident you cannot apply for benefits.Your first part is correct in saying,if they can afford it.

[EastsideAl]

I'm with Lowell, the true LBP showing through again. He's made his entire career on being a fear-mongering divider, so why stop now?

[Wesley Mouch]

You are free to travel,but the state can say if you are not a legalized citizen or resident you cannot apply for benefits.Your first part is correct in saying,if they can afford it.

LBP is not an official of the state, and he is duty-bound to follow the laws of the state.

[Zacha341]

Setting aside L Brooks Patterson, House Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul is pointing out that much of what the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria is doing/ planning is encrypted ... and "we can't see what they're saying,". More [[not just the republicans) are becoming concerned about and pointing to issues re. our safety, which must be considered beyond politics and ideologies:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mccaul-e...-threat-today/

[ndavies]

Trying to block refugees is just going to bring huge lawsuits.
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...ence/76300930/

[Wesley Mouch]

So setting aside L Brooks Patterson, House Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul is pointing out that much of what the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria is doing/ planning is encrypted ... and "we can't see what they're saying,". Many [[and not just the republicans) remain concerned about our safety, which must be considered beyond politics:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mccaul-e...-threat-today/

The point of this thread is LBP is an idiot -- On some other forum, this'd be a conversation about how Clinton is an idiot.

People enjoy complaining about people who disagree with them, and then demonize them by creating ideas about how their actions are all wrong.

I'm not an LBP fan one bit. But I don't think he's just playing politics here. He may be wrong -- but that doesn't make him an idiot. His lunacy is firmly established -- but concern about the safety of Americans is reasonable. Diversity is a fine goal. So is helping people who are in need. Keeping citizens safe is a higher goal, however -- its the purpose of states, IMO.

LBP might be basically doing nothign much different than San Francisco is. Creating a 'sanctuary city, ahm, county' where residents are safe from terrorists. Same idea -- different politics.