Gordie Howe International Bridge

**MichaelAnthonyVideos** · June-20-24, 12:23 AM

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**sirrealone** · June-20-24, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Rocket

Any truck that can will be taking the Ambassador.

Isn't one of the benefits of the new bridge that they can get right on the 401 instead of having to navigate through surface streets? Saving time and money could make it cost advantageous even if there are higher tolls.

And, have we seen a toll fee structure yet? Do we know they'll be higher? Remember, the Ambassador is designed to turn a profit, so part of the tolls are going toward that.

**Rocket** · June-20-24, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by sirrealone

they can get right on the 401 instead of having to navigate through surface streets?

And, have we seen a toll fee structure yet? Do we know they'll be higher?

It will be quite a while until this new bridge is in use.

Once it is, then we'll see what the tolls look like.

If I were in charge of the Ambassador, I would have tolls automatically reset every day to some percent below the Canadian bridge.

The system would look on the Canadian bridge app, [just like the truckers do], and it would stay perpetually under that, enough to account for the slower route on the Canadian side.

The one slimy thing Canada could do is narrow the route off the Ambassador on their side by a lane, or have customs slow down, or add a bunch of red-lights to bottle-neck traffic flow etc, thereby pressuring drivers onto the new bridge.

Not sure the legalities of that, but we've seen some pretty horrific stuff being done by the current fascist dictatorship over there lately, so I wouldn't put it past them.

**Jimaz** · June-21-24, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Rocket

It will be quite a while until this new bridge is in use.

Once it is, then we'll see what the tolls look like.

If I were in charge of the Ambassador, I would have tolls automatically reset every day to some percent below the Canadian bridge.

The system would look on the Canadian bridge app, [just like the truckers do], and it would stay perpetually under that, enough to account for the slower route on the Canadian side.

The one slimy thing Canada could do is narrow the route off the Ambassador on their side by a lane, or have customs slow down, or add a bunch of red-lights to bottle-neck traffic flow etc, thereby pressuring drivers onto the new bridge.

Not sure the legalities of that, but we've seen some pretty horrific stuff being done by the current fascist dictatorship over there lately, so I wouldn't put it past them.

"...the current fascist dictatorship over there..."?

Really?! You sprinted right up to the finish line with a perfectly valid, interesting post and had to shoot it in the foot at the last minute. Did you really hate it that much? LOL!

**Lowell** · June-21-24, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by MichaelAnthonyVideos

Thank you Lowell but they are too bitter to ever do that.

How could that be? Your drone work ennobled their project. I would think the iron workers, in particular, would also be thankful for your recording their work for posterity. They have to be showing it off to family and friends.

**401don** · June-21-24, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Jimaz

"...the current fascist dictatorship over there..."?

Really?! You sprinted right up to the finish line with a perfectly valid, interesting post and had to shoot it in the foot at the last minute. Did you really hate it that much? LOL!

It is pretty hilarious. Somehow I don't see Trudeau encouraging an insurrection if he loses the next election.

**MichaelAnthonyVideos** · June-21-24, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Lowell

How could that be? Your drone work ennobled their project. I would think the iron workers, in particular, would also be thankful for your recording their work for posterity. They have to be showing it off to family and friends.

They continuously called the FAA to try to get the FAA to stop me from flying near the bridge. The security tried telling me that it's a no fly zone and harassed me every time I was there. They actually had two FAA inspectors surveilling me because of their false statements. I was approached by the FAA at the bridge site and spoke to them. There were no violations and I'm in full compliance. They seemed annoyed with all the phone calls from the bridge company and witnessed bridge workers harassing me.

**Zacha341** · June-21-24, 04:28 PM

Doubts? Ask a few Canadians about their love of Trudeau. I'm sure they know what governance they have!

Originally Posted by Jimaz

"...the current fascist dictatorship over there..."?

Really?! You sprinted right up to the finish line with a perfectly valid, interesting post and had to shoot it in the foot at the last minute. Did you really hate it that much? LOL!

**Zacha341** · June-21-24, 04:30 PM

Yep. Lots of touch-an-go shannigans and pop-up rules abound re. Drone access. I know a Drone trainer.

For sure the bridge can be [become] a 'no-go' zone.

As needed. By varied entities.

Originally Posted by MichaelAnthonyVideos

They continuously called the FAA to try to get the FAA to stop me from flying near the bridge. The security tried telling me that it's a no fly zone and harassed me every time I was there. They actually had two FAA inspectors surveilling me because of their false statements. I was approached by the FAA at the bridge site and spoke to them. There were no violations and I'm in full compliance. They seemed annoyed with all the phone calls from the bridge company and witnessed bridge workers harassing me.

**MichaelAnthonyVideos** · July-04-24, 02:50 PM

**Richard** · July-05-24, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by MichaelAnthonyVideos

They continuously called the FAA to try to get the FAA to stop me from flying near the bridge. The security tried telling me that it's a no fly zone and harassed me every time I was there. They actually had two FAA inspectors surveilling me because of their false statements. I was approached by the FAA at the bridge site and spoke to them. There were no violations and I'm in full compliance. They seemed annoyed with all the phone calls from the bridge company and witnessed bridge workers harassing me.

we are currently at a heightened security level,anybody creating videos or photographing infrastructure is going to be questioned by homeland security or police.

They should have just contacted the police and they should have just properly ID you,it has nothing to do with FAA,if they keep harassing you,you should call the police and have them set them straight.

Their concern should be about security and who and why a drone is being flown and not that a drone is being flown.

There are other câmaras that are watching that bridge 24/7,if somebody that really mattered thought you were a threat you would have been already approached,you have already been run through facial recognition and determined not a threat.

**401don** · July-05-24, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by MichaelAnthonyVideos

They continuously called the FAA to try to get the FAA to stop me from flying near the bridge. The security tried telling me that it's a no fly zone and harassed me every time I was there. They actually had two FAA inspectors surveilling me because of their false statements. I was approached by the FAA at the bridge site and spoke to them. There were no violations and I'm in full compliance. They seemed annoyed with all the phone calls from the bridge company and witnessed bridge workers harassing me.

And yet you're free to load up a truck full of explosives, drive it halfway, and blow it up. It will be the same with the Gordie but at least they'll be a back up bridge.

**Richard** · July-05-24, 02:39 PM

Meh,unless Canada is invaded they really do not have that much significance in that aspect,multiple bridges and a tunnel,I see you point though because the Crimean bridge was the only bridge,but it was only out of service for a short amount of time and it was considered a crucial lifeline.

It’s the power grid and the $40 billion yearly in energy that Canada exports to the U.S. that would be the target.

Flip a couple of switches off and you shut down a large part of our country which will have a much worse impact then losing a bridge.

**401don** · July-05-24, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

Meh,unless Canada is invaded they really do not have that much significance in that aspect,multiple bridges and a tunnel,I see you point though because the Crimean bridge was the only bridge,but it was only out of service for a short amount of time and it was considered a crucial lifeline.

It’s the power grid and the $40 billion yearly in energy that Canada exports to the U.S. that would be the target.

Flip a couple of switches off and you shut down a large part of our country which will have a much worse impact then losing a bridge.

I don't think it's a prime target either but my point is why bother worrying about drones and having all this other supposed tight security when there are zero checks on large vehicles crossing the bridge. If they were really concerned they would have put reverse customs on the new bridge.

**Richard** · July-05-24, 05:22 PM

Public perception to make people think they are safe,and they would be breaking their own law in interrupting the flow of interstate commerce.

Even at that look at our southern border,they probably get 25% at best in drugs being brought across the border.

Aid to Gaza is another example no different then aid in any war zone,it gets bogged down because bad actors place weapons and ammunition in aid bags of rice etc. so every truck and every container within has to be checked.

Which pretty much brings it to a standstill.

I guess it is based on odds and risk assessment.

If you are following the war in Ukraine you notice the use of drones and impact,do not even need a big truck to take it out anymore.

If somebody wants to do something they are going to do it,no matter how many security measures you put in place and the average person is going to be the ones they,as in security,checks,because they are easy.

**Jimaz** · February-14-25, 12:26 PM

Grady gives a very thorough explanation of why these bridges have become so ubiquitous. The Gordie Howe International Bridge is mentioned at 16:30.

An Engineer’s Love Letter to Cable-Stayed Bridges

I don’t think there’s a better example in history where all the various factors of a technical problem converged into a singular solution in this way. I love cable-stayed bridges. Happy Valentine's Day!

At 5:45 he mentions the "droopy parabolic shapes of the main cables" in suspension bridges. They're actually, ideally, a slightly different catenary, rather than parabolic, shape — one of the few real-world applications of hyperbolic trigonometry functions.

**Danny** · February-16-25, 12:19 PM

Sorry Maroun Family you're already lose. So, get the competition.

**Rocket** · February-16-25, 07:36 PM

Is that ^ English?

The Maroun family will be just fine. Their bridge is already paid for.

Imagine you and your neighbor both open sidewalk lemonade stands, but you have a free supply of cups, ice, lemons and sugar?

**DetBill** · February-16-25, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Doubts? Ask a few Canadians about their love of Trudeau. I'm sure they know what governance they have!

Im from Canada originally, , my family and many friends are all there in Windsor , they have mixed views of Trudeau, none of them hate him…comparing Trump to Trudeau is about as off as it gets, One fully supports inclusion of everyone, that means everyone, supports all womens rights to chose, big supporter of LGBTQ equality, gun control and definitely not liking any religion controlling anyones lives.. always viewed America as its best friend, its the polar opposite

**Satiricalivory** · February-24-25, 01:50 AM

Originally Posted by Rocket

Is that ^ English?

The Maroun family will be just fine. Their bridge is already paid for.

Imagine you and your neighbor both open sidewalk lemonade stands, but you have a free supply of cups, ice, lemons and sugar?

The Marouns have an aging costly to maintain bridge that's due for some serious structural replacements and now is rendered next to irrelevant for their main source of income on it. Your analogy doesn't apply here at all. It doesn't matter if the Gordie Howe was financed with debt. It's still opening and will take most business with it's superior service and there's no chance of it shutting down after it's finished.

If it wasn't for their trucking business they probably would have tried to sell the bridge by now.

**Richard** · February-24-25, 01:14 PM

Taking current events into frame,the bridge is obsolete before even being finished,with the way trade is advancing,it’s going to be more of a tourist attraction.

I wonder if the numbers used to justify its construction at the time were ran today,if it would have even been built ?

**stasu1213** · February-24-25, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

Taking current events into frame,the bridge is obsolete before even being finished,with the way trade is advancing,it’s going to be more of a tourist attraction.

I wonder if the numbers used to justify its construction at the time were ran today,if it would have even been built ?

Another thought is had Trump won in 2020 and came up with these tariffs on Canada would plans on the construction of the Gordie Howe Bridge would had abruptly ceased being that ground was broken during his first term in office. I think that the bridge will be put to use for non commercial vehicles, bicycle, and pedestrian traffic, until Trump, the Governor, and the Prime Minister of Canada could work something out.

**Lowell** · February-24-25, 06:02 PM

Politicians and policies come and go, trade and commerce go on. This is a natural pathway that will withstand the passage of time. Its main asset is that it is more direct route for traffic that needs to bypass both Detroit and Windsor bound for other parts of both countries.

**Jimaz** · March-14-25, 08:18 AM

WUOM just reported that the bridge is expected to be completed and opened on schedule despite all the current tariff chaos because it's entirely funded by Canada.

This could have easily gone the other way. Thank you for your reliability, Canada.

**401don** · March-14-25, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Jimaz

WUOM just reported that the bridge is expected to be completed and opened on schedule despite all the current tariff chaos because it's entirely funded by Canada.

This could have easily gone the other way. Thank you for your reliability, Canada.

Your welcome, although as a taxpayer this is a huge waste of money. Ambassador bridge traffic is at it's lowest level in decades and tolls won't cover the interest on the debt for this bridge that Canadians no longer want to cross.