Gordie Howe International Bridge

[frankfrank]

^ Good points, thought out well. You're right, it's easy to make fun of Matty, but that doesn't address a major investment that may not be all that viable.

One could ask a question that may not currently be answerable - how many distance travelers or truckers are avoiding Detroit because of the overburdened existing capacity? Are some of these people merely crossing over from Port Huron or Sarnia and bypassing some or all of the metro area?

How many people are being displaced in the neighborhood that is needed to accommodate all that space?

[Detroit Stylin]

Gordie Howe Bridge updates


https://www.google.com/amp/s/windsor...owe-bridge/amp

[Worldsgreatest]

eat shit matty.

[401don]

eat shit matty.

Matty will probably be long gone before this thing is completed.

[Danny]

Sorry Maroun! Your monopoly control of the border is OVER! retire now! You're not the international troll anymore.

[Richard]

Lol,and it only cost taxpayers 6 billion dollars to help you to get rid of him,
well not really,because he is still there and so is the other bridge.

Remember the movie Cars,what happened to the city when the highway bypassed it?

All that supposed commence wizzing on by with fuel tanks full enough to get past the Michigan border,all those auto manufacturers transport trucks sitting dusty in some vacant lot because there was no longer a need to be scurrying back and forth across the border with parts and completed cars.

I wonder who pays for that decreased revenue loss?

But ahhhhhhh we finally stuck it to Matty and that moment of pleasure will brighten up the day while standing in line at the soup kitchen.

It would have been a lot easier to just give him a few billion for his bridge and it would have not been necessary to sacrifice a tax base for that moment of pleasure.

Any way you look it at,he still wins and it cost you money.

What started out as a free 3 billion dollar bridge is now at 7 billion with 40 workers on the ground and just now drilling to see if and how far down the supports need to be,time is money.

10 points says it hits the 12 billion mark and 8 years to complete.

In the meantime double the amount of trucks coming over Matty’s bridge to supply men,equipment and materials needed to build the new bridge lining his pockets even more.

[Meddle]

The way to Schtupp Matty NOW is to route all possible international traffic to Port Huron/Sarnia.

The only truck traffic through Matty's gate would be deliveries to the few counties in either country below that route.

[Richard]

^ sure all that would do is increase time and fuel costs,time and money.

California’s bridge went from proposed 1 billion to 7 billion because it was drug out over 7 years to build,everybody involved still needs to collect thier weekly check,they did not care how long it took.

Imagine paying on an interest only loan on 7 billion over 8 years.

[Scottathew]

Matty is a cancerous relic. I'm glad to see the project proceeding.

[Meddle]

^ sure all that would do is increase time and fuel costs,time and money.

Look at a map. It's actually shorter from Indy and points along I69 to Toronto. For southern traffic it may not be shorter, but they could completely bypass city traffic and the associated delays.

[Honky Tonk]

Look at a map. It's actually shorter from Indy and points along I69 to Toronto. For southern traffic it may not be shorter, but they could completely bypass city traffic and the associated delays.

I guess not too many truckers have looked @ the map.

[Worldsgreatest]

Lol,and it only cost taxpayers 6 billion dollars to help you to get rid of him,
well not really,because he is still there and so is the other bridge.

Everything you said here is wrong. Matty is not building any new bridge since he cannot compete with limited traffic that Gordie Howe is going to suck up, his only chance was stopping the GHB all together why do you think he fought tooth and nail? Detroit and Windsor do not live and die from truckers stopping by at the border duty free shop like some nowhereville small town get real. The trucks are nothing but a congestion blight for both cities.

I didn't know we had matty sympathizers on here. That's sad.

[Honky Tonk]

Everything you said here is wrong. Matty is not building any new bridge since he cannot compete with limited traffic that Gordie Howe is going to suck up, his only chance was stopping the GHB all together why do you think he fought tooth and nail? Detroit and Windsor do not live and die from truckers stopping by at the border duty free shop like some nowhereville small town get real. The trucks are nothing but a congestion blight for both cities.

I didn't know we had matty sympathizers on here. That's sad.

And yet right next to the Ambassador Bridge, construction continues on Matty's new span. Windsor's new mayor said he's willing to play ball. It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out and who's bridge goes up first.

[Richard]

Nice solution,give up a tax base and destroy another city.

Why is it sad for somebody to be a Matty sympathizer?

In the bigger picture 10-20 years down the road it really has nothing to do with Matty so today one cannot use emotions to make decisions.

Looking at and making decisions based on today and the circumstances that surround it will be meaningless even 5 years from now.

7 years ago it was Detroit was a crap hole and who would ever want to live there,but yet here you are defying that logic.

I am not really sure why he even stuck with Detroit,he has logistics companies in parts of the country that are way more centrally located,they run them from afar.The one in VA is close to the ocean,he could be chilling on the beach in the dead of winter,why did/does he go through the hardships.

So why did he stick with Detroit,buying up properties and speculation when nobody else or few others were if he did not have faith in the city he would have bailed years ago.

People that have never been in buisness seem to take everything personal,buisness is buisness and it is no different then the corporate world,the weak get eaten really fast.

If you ever want friends in life,start a buisness,you will have people coming out of the woodwork to be your friend,shut it down or sell it and you will never hear from them again,start another one and it happens all over again,so you never really get real friendly.

They saying goes,do not hate the player hate the game,of course he used the game to his advantage,just like anybody else did and does.

But who really in Detroit was responsible for the game?

People allowed it to exist for the last 40 some years,you do not think that Mr Gilbert is also useing the game to his advantage?

How many people can say that if they had the capital they would not also play the game to thier advantage?

[Worldsgreatest]

And yet right next to the Ambassador Bridge, construction continues on Matty's new span. Windsor's new mayor said he's willing to play ball. It'll be interesting to see how all this plays out and who's bridge goes up first.

Construction is not happening on matty's fantasy new span. where did you come up with this lie?

Matty isn't building shit unless he can shut down Gordie Howe completely. he would go bankrupt trying to build a new span himself that doesn't even connect to Canada's highway.

I can tell you whats going to happen, Gordie Howe will be built and matty will be sitting 6 feet under with a trashed legacy.

[Richard]

Last update was 2017 with one of the condition that the old span is removed.

Funny how he can build a 6 lane bridge for 1 billion useing private funds but the other one useing taxpayer monies is up to 7 billion.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/winds...roit-1.4277609

[Worldsgreatest]

He's not going to build shit, period. And certainly not for one billion. Funny how your glorious private sector wont even make anything happen for nada.

Matty is not going to finance a bridge that won't make money and cost likely ten billion dollars on his own and he absolutely will not find anybody in their right mind to finance it when there's a better competitor that's guaranteed to open right next door. Some of you really live in la la land.

[Honky Tonk]

Construction is not happening on matty's fantasy new span. where did you come up with this lie?

Matty isn't building shit unless he can shut down Gordie Howe completely. he would go bankrupt trying to build a new span himself that doesn't even connect to Canada's highway.

I can tell you whats going to happen, Gordie Howe will be built and matty will be sitting 6 feet under with a trashed legacy.

You need to get out more, Worldsgreatest. On second thought, stay put. Out on the street, someone's liable to bitch-slap you, with that mouth of yours.

[Dmberko11]

You need to get out more, Worldsgreatest. On second thought, stay put. Out on the street, someone's liable to bitch-slap you, with that mouth of yours.

Wait, is mouron really building a second span? 😂 what a fool

[Worldsgreatest]

So a few random excavators and a crane on the riverfront that could be for anything. when were those pictures even taken? Sure aint right now because those are fully green trees and spring in Detroit has barely started. Who knows how long that's been there, we all know he likes to propagate the illusion of progress like when he built that off ramp 10+ years ago. There is absolutely no report or pulled permits for construction of a second span.

Bitch slap yourself. His bridge ain't happening he ain't got no money for it lmfao.

[Worldsgreatest]

Wait, is mouron really building a second span?  what a fool

no he's not, money speaks for itself, nobody is financing a 10 billion+ bridge on the detroit river that isn't a national government. Matty is barely worth one billion and i can guarantee 80% of that is not liquid.

[Honky Tonk]

https://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...sor/642460001/

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[JonWylie]

https://www.freep.com/story/money/bu...sor/642460001/

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What a great article from a year and a half ago that vaguely states construction might start in 2018 or early 2019 if they get more permits.

[Dmberko11]

no he's not, money speaks for itself, nobody is financing a 10 billion+ bridge on the detroit river that isn't a national government. Matty is barely worth one billion and i can guarantee 80% of that is not liquid.

I kinda hope Moroun builds a second span but Gordie Howe bridge gets built anyway, rendering his twinned ambassador a failure and his legacy forever a joke haha

[Gistok]

Maroun is worth $1.8 billion... for those who didn't get it right.

Building a new bridge for him is going to be costly in that the old bridge will have to be dismantled. So what if he didn't build a new one... and instead took a cheaper approach and put extra maintenance on the old bridge.

The new Gordie Howe bridge will require many years [[at least until 2024, if then) until it is ready. What if Moroun undercut bridge prices to less than what the Gordie Howe Bridge would need to pay off its' construction debt? Will bond buyers want to risk that? Or will the Government of Ontario risk that?

Ops, I spoke too late....
https://www.mlive.com/news/2019/02/a...direction.html

Not only did Moroun already drop bridge prices... he's also trying different lane configurations at peak hours... 3 [[of 4) lanes to the USA in the morning, and 3 lanes to Canada in the evening.

I think that the Morouns still have a few tricks up their sleeves yet. We'll just have to wait and see. But owning an existing bridge with the construction loan paid off many decades ago... affords them the luxury of undercutting the price for the new Gordie Howe Bridge.

Anyone who thinks that this battle is all over is seriously underestimating Moroun.