Sen. Bernie Sanders Enters Presidential Race

[Pam]

I think this analysis is spot on, unfortunately:

There’s No Such Thing As A Protest Vote

https://medium.com/@cshirky/theres-n...704#.bui4k3tqu

I have protest voted in the past, but will not this year.

Election fraud is narrowing the "choices" even further. Hillary will be declared the winner without actually winning again. I know my write in vote may not be counted, but at least my conscience will be clear.

[bust]

Election fraud is narrowing the "choices" even further. Hillary will be declared the winner without actually winning again. I know my write in vote may not be counted, but at least my conscience will be clear.

I understand your frustration. I voted for Sanders in the primary myself. In big part because I considered it a protest vote.

But it's now clear there are only two people with a chance of becoming president. I don't like our options either, but we're faced with supporting the least unpalatable of them, or letting other people decide. And of those two candidates it's obvious to me only one of them is capable of the job. It seems like every election people talk about what a disaster it would be if the other side won. But I have never been so afraid of the consequences as I am this year. Even more so because if he wins it's all but certain he'll have the support of the House and Senate to do what he wants.

Michigan is one of the handful of states that could decide the election. Your vote really matters. That is unless it's wasted on a write-in or third party candidate.

I think the election will be much closer than many are predicting. And I worry about how many people will sit it out, or waste their votes. They're working on overdrive producing ads and [[other) disinformation hoping to persuade us to do just that. Be careful what you believe when people talk about election fraud.

The Ins and Outs of Write-Ins

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...s-of-write-ins

"In a tense Presidential election, write-in votes get in the way more than anything. Polling places are prepared, though. In states where voters fill in bubbles or complete arrows with a pencil, optical scanning machines are preprogrammed to automatically "kick out" write-ins from the computer's running tabulation, says Joe Kanefield, Arizona's election director. The machine then literally spits the write-in ballots into a pile on the floor. County representatives sort through the pile later."

It seems hard to believe county representatives will work hard to decipher the stubby pencil scrawl later after all the hard work they've already put in to manage the voting. [[Does that say "Bernie Sanders" or "Bennie Sanders"...?) It will already be clear there is no chance a write in candidate won.

I hope you don't mind my attempt to provide food for thought. But I truly am spooked Trump might win. I never thought George W. Bush would win in 2000, until he did.

[Honky Tonk]

I understand your frustration. I voted for Sanders in the primary myself. In big part because I considered it a protest vote.

But it's now clear there are only two people with a chance of becoming president. I don't like our options either, but we're faced with supporting the least unpalatable of them, or letting other people decide. And of those two candidates it's obvious to me only one of them is capable of the job. It seems like every election people talk about what a disaster it would be if the other side won. But I have never been so afraid of the consequences as I am this year. Even more so because if he wins it's all but certain he'll have the support of the House and Senate to do what he wants.

Michigan is one of the handful of states that could decide the election. Your vote really matters. That is unless it's wasted on a write-in or third party candidate.

I think the election will be much closer than many are predicting. And I worry about how many people will sit it out, or waste their votes. They're working on overdrive producing ads and [[other) disinformation hoping to persuade us to do just that. Be careful what you believe when people talk about election fraud.

The Ins and Outs of Write-Ins

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...s-of-write-ins

"In a tense Presidential election, write-in votes get in the way more than anything. Polling places are prepared, though. In states where voters fill in bubbles or complete arrows with a pencil, optical scanning machines are preprogrammed to automatically "kick out" write-ins from the computer's running tabulation, says Joe Kanefield, Arizona's election director. The machine then literally spits the write-in ballots into a pile on the floor. County representatives sort through the pile later."

It seems hard to believe county representatives will work hard to decipher the stubby pencil scrawl later after all the hard work they've already put in to manage the voting. [[Does that say "Bernie Sanders" or "Bennie Sanders"...?) It will already be clear there is no chance a write in candidate won.

I hope you don't mind my attempt to provide food for thought. But I truly am spooked Trump might win. I never thought George W. Bush would win in 2000, until he did.

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It's September already. Isn't it a little late for jejune?

[Pam]

I understand your frustration. I voted for Sanders in the primary myself. In big part because I considered it a protest vote.

But it's now clear there are only two people with a chance of becoming president. I don't like our options either, but we're faced with supporting the least unpalatable of them, or letting other people decide. And of those two candidates it's obvious to me only one of them is capable of the job. It seems like every election people talk about what a disaster it would be if the other side won. But I have never been so afraid of the consequences as I am this year. Even more so because if he wins it's all but certain he'll have the support of the House and Senate to do what he wants.

Michigan is one of the handful of states that could decide the election. Your vote really matters. That is unless it's wasted on a write-in or third party candidate.

I think the election will be much closer than many are predicting. And I worry about how many people will sit it out, or waste their votes. They're working on overdrive producing ads and [[other) disinformation hoping to persuade us to do just that. Be careful what you believe when people talk about election fraud.

The Ins and Outs of Write-Ins

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...s-of-write-ins

"In a tense Presidential election, write-in votes get in the way more than anything. Polling places are prepared, though. In states where voters fill in bubbles or complete arrows with a pencil, optical scanning machines are preprogrammed to automatically "kick out" write-ins from the computer's running tabulation, says Joe Kanefield, Arizona's election director. The machine then literally spits the write-in ballots into a pile on the floor. County representatives sort through the pile later."

It seems hard to believe county representatives will work hard to decipher the stubby pencil scrawl later after all the hard work they've already put in to manage the voting. [[Does that say "Bernie Sanders" or "Bennie Sanders"...?) It will already be clear there is no chance a write in candidate won.

I hope you don't mind my attempt to provide food for thought. But I truly am spooked Trump might win. I never thought George W. Bush would win in 2000, until he did.

I don't think they will let Trump win. Hillary will be shoved in again like in the primaries. So she doesn't even need my vote anyway. I don't think it's a "waste" to vote for an honest, trustworthy candidate [[Sanders) instead of corrupt Clinton.

http://www.thompsontimeline.com/cate...on-foundation/

[Honky Tonk]

It's September already. Isn't it a little late for jejune?

You really should try doing something else with your hair. It's not very flattering.

[Honky Tonk]

I don't think they will let Trump win. Hillary will be shoved in again like in the primaries. So she doesn't even need my vote anyway. I don't think it's a "waste" to vote for an honest, trustworthy candidate [[Sanders) instead of corrupt Clinton.

http://www.thompsontimeline.com/cate...on-foundation/

Pam, the best candidate has already been chosen for you, and you've been told who you should vote for. One of our newspaper reporters has told you why you should not attempt to show your displeasure by writing anyone in. Such actions, as yours, are counter productive to our goals, a clog in the wheels of Democracy, and may even be considered "UnAmerican". I'm afraid you've left us no choice but to bring you in for reprogramming.

[Pam]

Pam, the best candidate has already been chosen for you, and you've been told who you should vote for. One of our newspaper reporters has told you why you should not attempt to show your displeasure by writing anyone in. Such actions, as yours, are counter productive to our goals, a clog in the wheels of Democracy, and may even be considered "UnAmerican". I'm afraid you've left us no choice but to bring you in for reprogramming.

Ha. A lot of us will need reprogramming this year.

[Pam]

I can't remember if I posted this here before. This was a pissed off Bernie delegate at the DNC convention. She speaks for a lot of people.

https://youtu.be/iqjfxZTa9F0

[oladub]

A Rasmussen poll shows that if Hillary needs to be replaced, 48% of Democrats favor Bernie Sanders, 22% favor Biden, and only 14% favor Tim Kaine.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/which_democrat_should_replace_hillary

[Pam]

Statement from Sen. Sanders about the election.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro...ement-on-trump

“Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids - all while the very rich become much richer.
“To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him.”

Thanks, Bernie.

[Honky Tonk]

Statement from Sen. Sanders about the election.

http://www.sanders.senate.gov/newsro...ement-on-trump



Thanks, Bernie.

What a class act! How did the DNC screw up so pathetically removing him as nominee?

[GMan]

What a class act! How did the DNC screw up so pathetically removing him as nominee?

Because even a democrat doesn't want a socialist to steal their money.

[Zacha341]

A very reasoned statement, all things considered. Sanders speaks to the fact that a broader spectrum of people voted for Trump than some want to believe.

Statement from Sen. Sanders about the election.

“Donald Trump tapped into the anger of a declining middle class that is sick and tired of establishment economics, establishment politics and the establishment media. People are tired of working longer hours for lower wages, of seeing decent paying jobs go to China and other low-wage countries, of billionaires not paying any federal income taxes and of not being able to afford a college education for their kids - all while the very rich become much richer.

“To the degree that Mr. Trump is serious about pursuing policies that improve the lives of working families in this country, I and other progressives are prepared to work with him. To the degree that he pursues racist, sexist, xenophobic and anti-environment policies, we will vigorously oppose him.”

[Pam]

Glenn Greenwald: Bernie Sanders Would Have Been a Stronger Candidate Against Donald Trump

https://youtu.be/rJQTqcV12ik

[Jimaz]

Total duration 51 minutes: Bernie Sanders & Jimmy Carter [Together] On Human Rights And The Future Of America

[Honky Tonk]

https://youtu.be/rJQTqcV12ik

He would have cinched it, hands down. The DEMS biggest mistake was trying to pawn off Mrs. Clinton on everyone.

[Pam]

He would have cinched it, hands down. The DEMS biggest mistake was trying to pawn off Mrs. Clinton on everyone.

And they haven't learned from their mistakes. Hillary's still hanging around blaming everyone but herself for her loss. If she runs again, she will lose again.

[Zacha341]

Yes, the more Ms. Clinton goes on and on, the more those who voted for Trump are certain their choice was optimum if not great -- same for those who voted for neither. She assumed, but was not able to pull the populous vote and her attempt to resonate with women at large and feminist base specifically fell flat as well.

I am really, REALLY not feeling Trump [[did not vote for him) but Hillary Rhodam Clinton was such a bad alternate, which is mainly WHY SHE LOST! She keeps deflecting that factor! I find that I cannot join her in that deflection.

Course some are calling for Trump to be impeached immediately... then what Pense?

[Zacha341]

But they refuse to own that! The odious 'repub'-nant qualities of Trump were suppose to be easily conquered by anyone, standing and breathing on their own after all... So goes the narrative... And that STILL did not happen!!

He won the presidency!

What does that really say about the 'anyone' candidate he ran against? The dems assumed alot and well you know exactly how that goes.

He would have cinched it, hands down. The DEMS biggest mistake was trying to pawn off Mrs. Clinton on everyone.

[Pam]

Former Pres. Obama blames voters, Jimmy Dore gets pissed off:

https://youtu.be/hne-hG4raHI

[Honky Tonk]

Former Pres. Obama blames voters, Jimmy Dore gets pissed off:

https://youtu.be/hne-hG4raHI

+5........