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    The new tower, slated to be completed by December 2016, will be smaller than the Fox Office Center building, which houses both the iconic Fox Theatre and 186,000 square feet of office space for Little Caesars and other Ilitch-affiliated ventures. The two buildings will be the same height, but the new tower will be just eight stories — versus 10 for the Fox — because it will have higher ceilings.
    Progress made on Little Caesars Headquarters: None.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48307 View Post
    Progress made on Little Caesars Headquarters: None.

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    But they've shared renderings, that's enough for some to wet their pants and praise Ilitch. History of this happening then nothing being built is simply ignored because this time, things will be different.

    Of course the press will stay silent as well about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 48307 View Post
    Progress made on Little Caesars Headquarters: None.

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    I believe someone posted that construction fencing is or will be placed on this site I believe this month.

    I believe the context was that the city had approved the permit to begin the preliminary prep work.

    I don't see the problem given that the Ilitch folks and city are moving things along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post
    But they've shared renderings, that's enough for some to wet their pants and praise Ilitch. History of this happening then nothing being built is simply ignored because this time, things will be different.

    Of course the press will stay silent as well about it.
    A building permit for foundation work was issued for foundation work at 2125 Woodward last week. So take that fwiw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    I believe someone posted that construction fencing is or will be placed on this site I believe this month.

    I believe the context was that the city had approved the permit to begin the preliminary prep work.

    I don't see the problem given that the Ilitch folks and city are moving things along.
    The picture I posted is from today, no fencing. The parking lot is still very much being used as a famous deluxe Ilitch surface parking lot (it's paved!).


    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    A building permit for foundation work was issued for foundation work at 2125 Woodward last week. So take that fwiw.
    That's good news! I'd like to see some of Ilitch's non-taxpayer funded promises come true. I want to be a believer, he just need to make me one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSUguy View Post
    A building permit for foundation work was issued for foundation work at 2125 Woodward last week. So take that fwiw.
    Thanks for posting. Hopefully they'll finally prove many of us wrong.
    My first reaction is that they'll pull the permit, put up a fence, delay, winter comes, fence comes down before spring, permit expires, all is forgotten/forgiven but I hope I'm wrong.

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    Construction Trailers are set up NW corner of Park and Columbia. This job is going to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jt1 View Post
    History of this happening then nothing being built is simply ignored because this time, things will be different.
    If you're referring to the last time a billionaire announced the construction of a new headquarters for his company in downtown Detroit and then never built it, I think getting financing for new office building construction is a little bit easier to get now than in 2007. But I guess we'll see pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 313rd View Post
    Construction Trailers are set up NW corner of Park and Columbia. This job is going to happen.
    Thanks.

    Again, I think folks need to remember that this entire "District Detroit" development by the Ilitches is quite large and will maybe take until 2019 or 20 for most of the Ilitch portion to be completed.

    If folks put everything into a reasonable context: Say 5 years from ground breaking for the arena (by say 1/1/2020) I think we'll find that we'll have most of what we want will be completed including the arena, new LC headquarters, residences around the arena and Comerica, a new hotel, Ilitch school of business building, a few new parking structures, etc. etc. (I consider this the 'primary development'. Other buildings say behind the Fox or West of Cass to be secondary development).

    On Labor Day 2016, we'll have three large buildings (arena, business school building and headquarters) going up on Woodward in a city not full of cranes...
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    Scaffolding is up on the Columbia street sidewalk along the fox. I also saw surveyors on site on Tuesday. Construction is imminent.

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    I walked by yesterday and the site looked business as usual, no signs of construction planned.

    EMUSteve, what does Ilitch pay you to market for him?

    1953

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1953 View Post
    I walked by yesterday and the site looked business as usual, no signs of construction planned.

    EMUSteve, what does Ilitch pay you to market for him?

    1953
    "Pizza, Pizza"

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    "Pizza, Pizza"
    I've been very critical of Ilitch, but some of that bacon-crust pizza could change my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    "Pizza, Pizza"
    I think what 1953 was asking is, "what does Ilitch pay you of some value to market for him?"

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    Work has begun on the new LC HQ. A new kiddie park was installed on the west side of Park last week as well...Name:  20160802_125450.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by ParisianLesion View Post
    Work has begun on the new LC HQ. A new kiddie park was installed on the west side of Park last week as well...
    Excellent! I'm glad to see progress on this. I don't mind the latest renderings that were shared. It will be good to see more density there. Moving the jobs down there will continue to increase the demand for housing and retail.

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    Good. They aren't making any moves on the Blenheim Bldg, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ParisianLesion View Post
    Work has begun on the new LC HQ. A new kiddie park was installed on the west side of Park last week as well...Name:  20160802_125450.jpg
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    Thank you.

    As someone once said (I think ) a picture is worth a dozen or thousand posts...

    Wonder if someone could get a photo of the new parking garage going up (right?) behind St. Johns Church? Thanks.

    I was in Detroit in January but won't be back again until November... I'll check things out then but in the meantime I'm dependent on this site and the media for visual evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    Thank you.

    As someone once said (I think ) a picture is worth a dozen or thousand posts...
    Well it definitely won't be a thousand... because I can probably find a thousand posts in the DetroitYes archives that talk about some of the poor choices that the Ilitch's have made ("flawed brilliance" as the Detroit Free Press once labeled it).

    Also... as much as I would like to see a pair of 6 story residences across the street from this new building.... I think that Grand Circus Park should be a bigger concern for them. What's more important... taking a pair of dilapidated buildings (U/A & Fine Arts) and bringing them back to life? .... or taking probably their best landscaped parking lots (many of theirs are gravel) and finally putting something on to them? I think the first option would be of greater value to downtown revitalization versus the apartments, although I'm sure that's not the way this will go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Well it definitely won't be a thousand... because I can probably find a thousand posts in the DetroitYes archives that talk about some of the poor choices that the Ilitch's have made ("flawed brilliance" as the Detroit Free Press once labeled it).

    Also... as much as I would like to see a pair of 6 story residences across the street from this new building.... I think that Grand Circus Park should be a bigger concern for them. What's more important... taking a pair of dilapidated buildings (U/A & Fine Arts) and bringing them back to life? .... or taking probably their best landscaped parking lots (many of theirs are gravel) and finally putting something on to them? I think the first option would be of greater value to downtown revitalization versus the apartments, although I'm sure that's not the way this will go.
    I completely agree. While typically not a fan of surface lots, the ones along Woodward directly in front of CoPa don't bother me as much. I would much rather see a new residential structure go up on the surface lot just south of Elizabeth Street for the entire block length (on the north half of the block that contains Chelis and the Central United Methodist church.) That, with the new LC HQ would actually frame those surface lots quite nicely in the interim.

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    Damn. I wish I had invested in a goalpost moving company, because business is clearly booming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Well it definitely won't be a thousand... because I can probably find a thousand posts in the DetroitYes archives that talk about some of the poor choices that the Ilitch's have made ("flawed brilliance" as the Detroit Free Press once labeled it).

    Also... as much as I would like to see a pair of 6 story residences across the street from this new building.... I think that Grand Circus Park should be a bigger concern for them. What's more important... taking a pair of dilapidated buildings (U/A & Fine Arts) and bringing them back to life? .... or taking probably their best landscaped parking lots (many of theirs are gravel) and finally putting something on to them? I think the first option would be of greater value to downtown revitalization versus the apartments, although I'm sure that's not the way this will go.


    Isn't this thread about the LC headquarters building? To summarize the topic at hand: fencing is now up for the new LC headquarters building.

    We seem to wander a bit in our discussions, don't we... Starting to feel like I have ADHD.

    We have a thread for the arena site including adjacent buildings, this thread for the LC headquarters building (and presumably other development near Comerica Park), and I assume other threads for other properties.

    If folks want to discuss other Ilitch non-arena/non-Comerica properties why not start another thread (if no suitable thread exists now) to discuss them and let us focus on the arena and new development in the threads created for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emu steve View Post
    I assume the arena and this building will be the first two projects to see shovels in the ground.

    Anyone venture a guess what would be the 3rd new building in the Ilitch development plans?
    Yeaaaah....... it's kind of odd that you question my other post about what is appropriate this thread (that you didn't even start).... when you asked this question... which I was alluding to.....
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    Woodward needs a streetwall. Surface parking is neither good looking contributing. No free passes for the Olympia holdings fronting Woodward. There will still be plenty of vistas of Comerica Park, and as one can see from Fenway or Wrigley, a sweeping vista across parking lots is not exactly a requirement of a dynamic stadia district.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gistok View Post
    Yeaaaah....... it's kind of odd that you question my other post about what is appropriate this thread (that you didn't even start).... when you asked this question... which I was alluding to.....
    Far be it me to play a communications specialist, but in forums and other non-real time communications (such as email), folks always have trouble REALLY understanding what is being said and responded to.

    I'm kind of confused now as to what we are really discussing.

    I'm suggesting that the LC headquarters and the planned residential buildings across the street 'fit together' like peas in a pod as we are talking new construction on opposite sides of the street all part of the same development project.

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