Duggan Shows His True Colors in the GRCC

[Gannon]

UPDATE: City Backs off Fines Issued to GRCC Building Owners
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Well, now that he has all the reins of power, our Mayor is proving to be what I feared when he first showed interest in the job of leading the city of Detroit.

He is a fool and a liar and if this is the way he is going to go after so-called blight, he must go. Now. I don't even care who replaces him, as long as they weren't trained in the McNamara School of Political Thugs and Professional Criminals.

http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2014/1...tive-corridor/

[Gannon]

Already this is becoming a hot button issue, the mayor does NOT know what beehive he just tickled. Seriously, this will become the beginning of his doomly downfall. I promise.

No Cheers on this one.

He has been downgraded, I will no longer use a capital M for his title...he has lost any hint of respect I might've been reserving for the vain hope I had that he wasn't what I feared he might be. Next up, the derogatory nicknaming. Lookout!

Sincerely,
John

[hewettbr]

Wow is all i can say about this post, although you make some points that could be considered valid, i dont think calling for his head is correct. Some of the things he has done outweigh this 10 fold.

[Gannon]

just wait...he is a wolf in sheep's clothing...although I had great hopes he had learned and grown some since his tenure as McNamara's Hatchetman.

[DetroitPlanner]

I hear Duggan's the guy burning down Heidelberg. So much for the Germans investing in Fisher 21!

[SpartanDawg]

seriously why is everyone is acting as if he just committed murder? he's going after graffiti and taggers... i guarantee he'll reverse the decision to fine these guys once he realizes they're not the real enemy [[although I don't personally like the look of graffiti, especially the whole NEKST on MOCAD, i respect other people's love for it). motor city muckraker is a pathetic website too.


the beginning of his downfall? seriously? after everything he's done so far you think this will all of a sudden make anyone think he's some anti-christ? newsflash: 99% of people won't care if a few graffiti artists got fined.. even if they're 'creative'

[Eber Brock Ward]

https://www.facebook.com/MayorMikeDuggan

313-224-3300

Please take a 30 seconds and post to Duggan's facebook page or call his office. Public feedback can work in these situations.

[Wesley Mouch]

Aren't the ordinances passed by City Council, and not the Mayor?

[Willi]

Graffitti is illicitly put on a wall in a public place and is VANDALISM , not art.
Duggan is 100% in the right, and this practice of vandals needs to be stopped.

[KJ5]

Graffitti is illicitly put on a wall in a public place and is VANDALISM , not art.
Duggan is 100% in the right, and this practice of vandals needs to be stopped.

The GRCC murals were all done with permission and encouragement from the building owners. That's why this is some bullshit.

[cla1945]

I didn't see this much outrage when thug KK was raping and pillaging the City of Detroit during his infamous reign. Maybe there are other agendas in play here???

[Willi]

Not permitted or allowed; prohibited; unlawful --- even if the building owner said okay ?
So illegals running drugs and child pornagraphy in a building is OKAY --if the owner says yes.

LAW - obeyed by everyone. Since when does a PUBLIC space suddenly get new law ?

[SpartanDawg]

PUT DOWN THE PITCH FORKS PEOPLE:

https://twitter.com/AlexisWileyNews/...14361416314880

"@MayorMikeDuggan is making it clear. We support wall art and murals done with the permission of building owners. "



can everyone relax now and go back to discussing I-94 and Berlin night clubs coming to Detroit?

[mikeg19]

Wow after reading the first post I thought he was out raping women and murdering cops. Then I read the article. Yea, he's taking an aggressive approach to graffiti and vandalism. Was there MAYBE a bit of a miscommunication here with the police and these art projects? Perhaps. Maybe the cops just got a bit gung-ho when they say a bunch of guys with spray cans tagging up buildings.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this gets resolved in an amicable matter where murals painted with the owners permission are not going to be taken down.

Maybe others should stop the fear mongering and chill a little bit.

[SWMAP]

I can't wait for the day when building exteriors are safe from graffiti vandals. Too much ruin porn, menacing faces and veiled threats all along major streets. Its sub-consciously disturbing and threatening. I long for a clean and welcoming space.

Yesterday, I saw a cop pull a stake truck over on Fort St. I saw that the truck was filled with a mish-mash of metal - including two chain link gates about 6 or 7 feet high. Looked like illegal scrap to me. It was such a happy moment to see that scrapping, which used to be tolerated, isn't going to be tolerated any more. Yay adults are in charge again.

Same for graffiti - zero tolerance.

[Scottathew]

Same for graffiti - zero tolerance.

Do you consider this graffiti? Under some definitions, it is not:

Graffiti: Writing or drawings scribbled, scratched, or sprayed illicitly on a wall or other surface in a public place.

[1953]

Here I will take the wildly unpopular stand that "wall art" is hideous and should be removed. Commence throwing stones.

[[Illegal signs are illegal signs)

1953

[EastsideAl]

To me the important paragraph in that Detroit Muckraker article is:
"Among the unanswered questions is why police are bothering with murals painted with permission when an increasing number of graffiti vandals are targeting occupied and historic buildings, freeway signs, schools, churches, cars, houses, light poles, mailboxes and playground equipment."

My guess is that when the "stop graffiti" edict came down to the police from on high. The local cops over there on the west side went "I know where there's a lot of graffiti!" And not knowing, or perhaps even caring, about the distinction between unsolicited tagging on public and private property, and artwork performed with the permission of the property owner, went off in their usual cop way to pick off the easy low-hanging fruit first.

You have to remember that for the cops themselves it's all about hitting those targets and filling those quotas as quickly and easily as possible. And catching actual vandals in the act is haaaard.

But I'm pretty certain that this is not what Duggan meant. And, as you can see from Spartan Dawg's post above, he already seems to be backing off this pretty hard. After all, the young, the hipsters, and the arty crowd [[including lots of folks out in the neighborhoods) have been part of his overall support group, and he will need their support going forward too, now that he's actually the one in power.

[poobert]

Well, now that he has all the reins of power, our Mayor is proving to be what I feared when he first showed interest in the job of leading the city of Detroit.

He is a fool and a liar and if this is the way he is going to go after so-called blight, he must go. Now. I don't even care who replaces him, as long as they weren't trained in the McNamara School of Political Thugs and Professional Criminals.

http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2014/1...tive-corridor/

Hmm. It sounds like perhaps your true colors are the ones that are showing, friend.

[Hypestyles]

I'd suggest several 'religious' or "black/brown" historic icons murals, or multi-ethnics-working-together murals as part of the mix-- most of the "already been here" older folk would tend to see a lot of the spacy-edgy depictions as [[ahem) "demonic" and all it takes is that to get folks riled up..

[RickBeall]

Looks like a mistake that will be corrected.

[Scottathew]

Looks like a mistake that will be corrected.

His facebook is getting BLOWN UP right now!

[Willi]

Just because a business owner allows it - DOES NOT make it legal.
Let's be clear here, it is a public space, used by all, seen by all.
--If prostitution occurred with the chick thrown up against the wall, in a public space,
it would not be legal, even if the owner likes to ""get some"" and condones the practice.
Even if the chick screamed PERFORMANCE ART ....it would still be seen as a crime.

It is illegal, until the day the law is changed for anyone to paint anything anywhere.

[Scottathew]

Just because a business owner allows it - DOES NOT make it legal.
Let's be clear here, it is a public space, used by all, seen by all.
--If prostitution occurred with the chick thrown up against the wall, in a public space,
it would not be legal, even if the owner likes to ""get some"" and condones the practice.
Even if the chick screamed PERFORMANCE ART ....it would still be seen as a crime.

It is illegal, until the day the law is changed for anyone to paint anything anywhere.

What law in Detroit prohibits owners from painting their buildings?

[hewettbr]

The GRCC murals were all done with permission and encouragement from the building owners. That's why this is some bullshit.

if there is permission then the artist just has to provide it, case closed.