Violence and robberies continue at Detroit gas stations

**Zacha341** · April-07-14, 06:02 AM

Reported another mob beats a man at gas station [[he died):

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...it-gas-station

Deaf also woman robbed at a station on six mile - west side:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/video?cl...autoStart=true

**corktownyuppie** · April-07-14, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Reported another mob beats a man at gas station [[he died):

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...it-gas-station

Deaf also woman robbed at a station on six mile - west side:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/video?cl...autoStart=true

The violence at gas stations is totally out of control. I have no answers, but this is not a sustainable outcome. I don't know whether it's private security, community cooperative policing of some kind, or shutting down gas stations. This can't continue.

I'm a little skeptical of the report of a "mob" killing, when it appears that there were only 2 attackers.

But regardless.

**Hermod** · April-07-14, 06:30 AM

Treat Detroit like the Mohave Desert. Make sure you have enough gas to get across before entering [[or use the I-275/I-696 bypass).

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 06:39 AM

Originally Posted by Zacha341

Reported another mob beats a man at gas station [[he died):

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/25...it-gas-station

Deaf also woman robbed at a station on six mile - west side:

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/video?cl...autoStart=true

My God! Have people gone nuts? I can't tell you how bad I feel for the victims.

**MikeM** · April-07-14, 06:55 AM

Someone didn't get the memo.

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 06:58 AM

Originally Posted by MikeM

Someone didn't get the memo.

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**getmoore** · April-07-14, 08:15 AM

The perps know that sooner or later SOMEBODY is going to pull into a gas station. I wonder what other cities do about this problem. Do other cities even HAVE this problem?

**MikeM** · April-07-14, 08:22 AM

Originally Posted by getmoore

The perps know that sooner or later SOMEBODY is going to pull into a gas station. I wonder what other cities do about this problem. Do other cities even HAVE this problem?

I don't know about other cities but the suburbs definitely do.

**Bham1982** · April-07-14, 08:27 AM

I guess this is why gas is cheaper in Detroit?

I don't care the savings; will never, ever stop for gas in Detroit. Too many crazy stories [[and not just crime stories, but just weird anecdotes about people approaching you with odd stories, beggars, and nonresponsive station clerks, also you constantly hear claims that they dilute the gas in the city with other additives).

**Bill Simpson** · April-07-14, 08:56 AM

The escorts hang around the gas stations too. That's why a lot of white men go to the city. When the escort's handler can't sell enough candy, or runs out, everyone gets uptight and violence occurs.

**Hermod** · April-07-14, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

I guess this is why gas is cheaper in Detroit?

I don't care the savings; will never, ever stop for gas in Detroit. Too many crazy stories [[and not just crime stories, but just weird anecdotes about people approaching you with odd stories, beggars, and nonresponsive station clerks, also you constantly hear claims that they dilute the gas in the city with other additives).

The panhandlers, people wanting you to fill up their tank, and sob stories are pretty much universal except for really country gas stations.

**Danny** · April-07-14, 09:33 AM

A typical Detroit black thing. A Ham's curse!

**ThosWolfe** · April-07-14, 09:37 AM

Originally Posted by getmoore

The perps know that sooner or later SOMEBODY is going to pull into a gas station. I wonder what other cities do about this problem. Do other cities even HAVE this problem?

East St Louis, IL? In the movies anyway. 1st Chevy Chase Holiday movie. They stopped for gas in St Louis, turns out they were in EAST St Louis. Got robbed, car stripped...

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hermod

The panhandlers, people wanting you to fill up their tank, and sob stories are pretty much universal except for really country gas stations.

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time. All of that was fine, even entertaining, until people started becoming a bit more challenging when you said "No". I started buying gas near where I work. I've never been hassled, yet. And I don't work in a "really country area". If the current trend continues in Detroit, and the owners and employees continue to condone people hanging around the station bothering customers, they're going to continue losing sales.

**Hermod** · April-07-14, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time. All of that was fine, even entertaining, until people started becoming a bit more challenging when you said "No". I started buying gas near where I work. I've never been hassled, yet. And I don't work in a "really country area". If the current trend continues in Detroit, and the owners and employees continue to condone people hanging around the station bothering customers, they're going to continue losing sales.

OK, we are both being annecdotal, but I do get hassled in suburbia [[maybe not as aggressively) for loose change, help me fill my tank, or my daughter is sick. All it needs is that the gas station is within walking distance of where the guy normally hangs out with his cardboard sign [[and most of the guys that hassle me are white).

**Honky Tonk** · April-07-14, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Hermod

OK, we are both being annecdotal, but I do get hassled in suburbia [[maybe not as aggressively) for loose change, help me fill my tank, or my daughter is sick. All it needs is that the gas station is within walking distance of where the guy normally hangs out with his cardboard sign [[and most of the guys that hassle me are white).

Talk about equality....

When I worked in Downtown Detroit for years, years ago, most of the people that "spare changed" you, 24-7, were white. [[not that there's anything wrong with it) We both must work in different 'burbs, that's all. I just don't get why station owners let this continue.

**poobert** · April-07-14, 11:37 AM

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/l...leven/25324896

US Army vet assaulted at Westland 7-11

As mad as I was about the beating of the Roseville man in Detroit, this put things in perspective. Slurring a US Servicemember? Who are these people?

Oh yeah, our neighbors.

The gas stations in Detroit suck. So do the ones in the suburbs. Detroit is full of thugs, and so are the suburbs.

I'm pretty much over how people say they like living here because "the people are nice." No, they're not. It's been 15 years of economic downturn and people are surly, on-edge, racist, uneducated substance-abusers. This is a lousy region to live, and a lousy region to raise a family. Detroit is the punching bag but the suburbs are trash too. It's all one big void of lousy roads, lousy schools, lousy economy, lousy transit, and lousy people.

**canuck** · April-07-14, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by poobert

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/l...leven/25324896

US Army vet assaulted at Westland 7-11

As mad as I was about the beating of the Roseville man in Detroit, this put things in perspective. Slurring a US Servicemember? Who are these people?

Oh yeah, our neighbors.

The gas stations in Detroit suck. So do the ones in the suburbs. Detroit is full of thugs, and so are the suburbs.

I'm pretty much over how people say they like living here because "the people are nice." No, they're not. It's been 15 years of economic downturn and people are surly, on-edge, racist, uneducated substance-abusers. This is a lousy region to live, and a lousy region to raise a family. Detroit is the punching bag but the suburbs are trash too. It's all one big void of lousy roads, lousy schools, lousy economy, lousy transit, and lousy people.

I may be wrong but I get a sense that there are a few things you dont like about the region.

**Bham1982** · April-07-14, 11:46 AM

I have never been hassled at a gas station, ever, in my life.

I also won't stop at gas stations in crap areas, though.

**poobert** · April-07-14, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by canuck

I may be wrong but I get a sense that there are a few things you dont like about the region.

You, on the other hand, always seemed alright, so of course you don't live anywhere near here.

**Pickford-Bentler** · April-07-14, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/l...leven/25324896

US Army vet assaulted at Westland 7-11

As mad as I was about the beating of the Roseville man in Detroit, this put things in perspective. Slurring a US Servicemember? Who are these people?

Oh yeah, our neighbors.

The gas stations in Detroit suck. So do the ones in the suburbs. Detroit is full of thugs, and so are the suburbs.

I'm pretty much over how people say they like living here because "the people are nice." No, they're not. It's been 15 years of economic downturn and people are surly, on-edge, racist, uneducated substance-abusers. This is a lousy region to live, and a lousy region to raise a family. Detroit is the punching bag but the suburbs are trash too. It's all one big void of lousy roads, lousy schools, lousy economy, lousy transit, and lousy people.

Quote from linked article:

"They were yelling at me for being part of the military that lets a bunch of 'n-words' run around in it," Wagner said. "I took great offense to that because my best friend in the army was black."

In a better world, we could put the assholes who beat this guy in a cage with the thugs who beat the truck driver.

I have an African wife who is Muslim. Safe to say that the "friendly" of Metro Detroit does not apply to my family based on comments I read here and at I hear when I visit. I am white with blue eyes and a southern accent. The shit I have to hear because assholes think I am one of them so they can speak freely.

**EASTSIDE CAT 67-83** · April-07-14, 01:38 PM

Getting gas in Detroit can be akin to a combat experience, a normal mundane task intertwined with moments of the potential anxiety of the unknown...what will happen next. I wouldn't recommend it.

**softailrider** · April-07-14, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Honky Tonk

Sorry Hermod, No Sale. I quit buying gasoline in Detroit a couple of years back because, well, I just wanted to get gas and go. It was a constant barage of questions, sob stories about bus money, or being asked if I was looking for a good time. All of that was fine, even entertaining, until people started becoming a bit more challenging when you said "No". I started buying gas near where I work. I've never been hassled, yet. And I don't work in a "really country area". If the current trend continues in Detroit, and the owners and employees continue to condone people hanging around the station bothering customers, they're going to continue losing sales.

Doubt it, they have a captive audience. Gas stations, crappy party stores, no transportation, need food - you do the math.

**Meddle** · April-07-14, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

Slurring a US Servicemember? Who are these people?

Uhhh, what's that got to do with anything. I don't feel military or ex-military deserve anything special of any kind. A lot of them cause just as much trouble as anyone else.

Not that anybody should be hassled when doing anything as mundane as buying gas, but military or ex-military gets no special pass.

**Meddle** · April-07-14, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Hermod

Treat Detroit like the Mohave Desert. Make sure you have enough gas to get across before entering [[or use the I-275/I-696 bypass).

When people ask me about traveling between somewhere south and upper Michigan, I tell them to use US-23/I-475 [[Toledo, Ann Arbor/Fenton). Gets them the same place without going anywhere near town.

Same thing for travel to Canada. I send them via I-69 through Port Huron.