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[Gannon]

Are you still drinking fluoridated water?

It pacified the prisoners in Nazi camps, first time on record it was used publicly on a population. Still think it fixes your teeth? LOL, keep snoozin'. You be losin'.

[noise]

Has anyone posted about chemtrails yet?

[Gannon]

Has anyone posted about chemtrails yet?

Of course, years ago. But one of our regulars is a pilot who insists that they are all contrails.

The threads should be available through the search function below, but many of the more controversial ones simply vanished. One that I re-typed a year later, too.

Wonder how THAT could happen?!


Cheers

[Gannon]

"the Gannons", LOL...doubt away...but make fun at your own risk.

Karma can be a mutha f'er.

[noise]

"the Gannons", LOL...doubt away...but make fun at your own risk.

Karma can be a mutha f'er.

I truly didn't mean to make fun. I have been hearing about revolutions and the end of the world as long as I can remember. Well?

And, you know, you were just a convenient descriptor!

[rb336]

Are you still drinking fluoridated water?

It pacified the prisoners in Nazi camps, first time on record it was used publicly on a population. Still think it fixes your teeth? LOL, keep snoozin'. You be losin'.

http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...ude-nazi-myth/

[noise]

Besides, Gannon, after reading a chemtrails thread I tracked down, you sound downright reasonable by comparison!

Have a good one!

[Gannon]

http://www.politifact.com/florida/st...ude-nazi-myth/

H-m-m-n-n...let's see...believe those who wish to perpetuate a proven bad practice, who may be liable against lawsuits...including the government...or those who wish to stop the proven bad practice.

This would be the SAME government that imported Nazi scientists illegally after the end of WWII through Operation Paperclip...buried under the Top Secret protections which have allowed the CIA and other factions to wreak havoc around the world.

I'm going to continue to believe those who are revealing the said bad practice of using fluoride in the public water supply.


Say, like these folks:

http://poisonpaste.com/fluoride-nazi-link.php


and these:

http://truth11.com/2009/12/01/nazi-c...rinking-water/

Don't give me links to universities funded by the Military Industrial Complex, either...they are bought and controlled assets.


This is NOT so easily dismissed. Sorry.

[Gannon]

These folks, too:

http://farmwars.info/?p=3613

[Gannon]

Besides, Gannon, after reading a chemtrails thread I tracked down, you sound downright reasonable by comparison!

Have a good one!

There are a shit-ton of false posts by shills whose JOB is to make those who do the research look crazy...it is part of the FALSE MYTH against true Conspiracy Theory...yes, there is a conspiracy against those who track conspiracies.

I wouldn't go so far as to call me reasonable, I'm far too passionate about some things which've been proven to me, or better yet...that which I've experienced directly.

Like having that Beautiful Paraguay in the Post Apocalypse Springtime thread vanish off this board twice...among other wildness from the end of 2006 and beginning of 2007. THAT was an amazing time...


Cheers!

[Gannon]

...let alone the mystical events which I've experienced. Those are far too curious for a lightbulb thread...

[Gannon]

I continue against Rb's weak efforts to demean my comments against water fluoridation.

From the article he linked, we find the following:

It's called "Fluoridation: Mind Control of the Masses?" And in it we meet government research worker Charles Eliot Perkins, who at the end of World War II purportedly learned from a big German chemical producer that it had developed a plan to fluoridate occupied countries.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him," says a document quoted in the excerpt. "Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

There is no attempt to substantiate the basis of this quote, but it is called ridiculous after suppressed laughter by someone from a museum.

Here, from one of the articles I linked, I provide the substantiation, along with the continuation from the same person:

In a letter abstracted from Fluoridation and Lawlessness, published by the Committee for Mental Health and National Security [[with obvious implications) from the aforementioned Charles Perkins, U.S. appointed post-war head of I.G. Farben, to the Lee Foundation for Nutritional Research, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, October 2, 1954, we read the following:

"We are told by the fanatical ideologists who are advocating the fluoridation of the water supplies in this country that their purpose is to reduce the incidence of tooth decay in children, and it is the plausibility of this excuse, plus the gullibility of the public and the cupidity of public officials that is responsible for the present spread of artificial water fluoridation in this country.

"However - and I want to make this very definite and positive - the real reason behind water fluoridation is not to benefit children's teeth. If this were the real reason, there are many ways in which it could be done which are much easier, cheaper and far more effective. The real purpose behind water fluoridation is to reduce the resistance of the masses to domination, control and loss of liberty."

Furthermore,

"When the Nazis decided to go into Poland, the German General Staff and the Russian General Staff exchanged scientific and military ideas, plans and personnel. The scheme of mass control through water medication was seized upon by the Russian Communists because it fitted ideally into their plans to Communise the world. I say this in all earnestness and sincerity of a scientist who has spent nearly 20 years research into the chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology of fluorides. Any person who drinks artificially fluoridated water for a period of one year or more will never again be the same person, mentally or physically."

So...which to believe...which to doubt.

There is actually MORE proof in the well-researched articles I found with a simple search.

Tell me about how Conspiracy Theorists are weak-minded followers...prove it. Just prove it.

Sincerely,
John

[rb336]

H-m-m-n-n...let's see...believe those who wish to perpetuate a proven bad practice, who may be liable against lawsuits...including the government...or those who wish to stop the proven bad practice.

This would be the SAME government that imported Nazi scientists illegally after the end of WWII through Operation Paperclip...buried under the Top Secret protections which have allowed the CIA and other factions to wreak havoc around the world.

I'm going to continue to believe those who are revealing the said bad practice of using fluoride in the public water supply.


Say, like these folks:

http://poisonpaste.com/fluoride-nazi-link.php


and these:

http://truth11.com/2009/12/01/nazi-c...rinking-water/

Don't give me links to universities funded by the Military Industrial Complex, either...they are bought and controlled assets.


This is NOT so easily dismissed. Sorry.

Show me a peer-reviewed bit of actual science, and I will take you seriously.

[Gannon]

Show me a peer-reviewed bit of actual science, and I will take you seriously.

That is like asking Actual Science to prove there is an Actual God. The likelihood is miniscule, since Science requires tangible proofs which can touch nothing but hints of what lies beyond...but they cannot in any way prove there is none Godlike. Although, seeing what Science cannot explain reveals a wide gulf of space for something Other to exist. Say, in the fundamental, foundational things...like gravity, the atomic force, magnetism, even life itself. Science cannot explain how they're made, but surely will rush to play with 'em until they break 'em to see what happens.

Luckily, I don't have any deep-seated need to be taken seriously by those who cannot see the forest due their particular tree being accredited and licensed. I've said my piece before here, and have my peace now over the relative idiocy of considering higher academia the end of knowledge, when the divisions of such create specialists who are usually SO ignorant of what they didn't study as to be handicapped throughout life. Yet they are quick to don their sheepskin as a weapon against those who can synthesize and integrate and perceive the whole from a far less myopic viewpoint.

In addition, show me the research scientist in any university who'd risk their stature [[and funding...and Top Secret clearance) to tell the whole truth about any controversial thing...this is why there is basically only ONE very well tenured fellow at MIT talking against the bias in the reporting of the biggest study of what has become termed Global Warming. Dude can speak out because he is secure. Will he find a way to get his conclusion peer-reviewed? Not if the others are too scared to speak out. Published? Not so long as those journals have closed-minded boards...also scared of novel, contradictory ideas...which disturb a status quo driven by an agenda.

Heck, that's why you don't find deeper truth from official Egyptologists...LOL! How even the Dead Sea Scrolls were rendered moot for a generation. Why someone like Edward Snowden has been so dangerous to a poisonous status quo. I know I'm dancing around here...that is the point. What you ask for will never arrive, so you can remain securely ignorant.

There are leaks all the time from sources which are quickly dismissed...and those who spot and track the trends...put together the data points devoid of linear logical links...are lumped together with the wildest whackjobs under the title of Conspiracy Theorists. Most cannot even TELL how deeply and thoroughly they've been programmed with this meme.

I gave you real data which YOU'VE chosen to ignore. I investigated yours, but you allow your BIAS to bolster your ignorance in the matter. You give me hearsay from someone who is barely ancillary to the matter at hand...and cannot support it so you choose to take the weak road.

Good luck with that. I repeat my initial comment, "LOL, keep snoozin'. You be losin'."


Cheers!

[NickCharles]

The Waning Gibbous arrives not a moment too soon.

[Gannon]

feelin' a little crazy, are ya?

[noise]

I work closely with a lot of researchers. Never have I met one that seemed scared to reveal their findings. I'm not sure exactly what's being implied, or what a tenured faculty member would be afraid of researching or publishing.

So, somehow, Nazi flouridation is equivalent to faith in God? It can't be proven, so we just have to ignore the overwhelming evidence that it's NOT true?

[Pam]

I've never heard this Nazi flouride thing. Sorry, G. it makes no sense. Nazis controlled prisoners by starvation and violence.

[rb336]

That is like asking Actual Science to prove there is an Actual God. The likelihood is miniscule, since Science requires tangible proofs
Cheers!

except that fluoride is a physical substance and there are actual people being exposed to it. That is a particularly inept comparison. It is one thing to say "I believe in God[[s) and that can't be tested scientifically" and quite another to say "I believe the Nazis used fluoride to sedate prisoners and THAT cannot be subject to peer-reviewed studies."

There are fluoride compounds that can be used as anesthetics - isoflurane, for example - but they are only effective as gasses and in high concentrations. Any use in the concentration camps would have been wildly impractical and absolutely unnecessary as Pam pointed out. In order to have a sedating affect on prisoners, they would have had to carry around tanks and masks. The barracks were so leaky that it would have been impossible to build up enough of a concentration for it to be effective.

There have, however, been numerous studies of fluoride that show, absent very specific and very rare diseases, fluoride exposure at the levels used in water treatment have no negative health consequences. Grand Rapids, the first US city to implement fluoridation of water, has been the subject of more than half of a century of study

Just an aside: my spellcheck suggests I use "Missourian" instead of "isoflurane."

[Gannon]

curious, spellcheck seems the first way the slowly-conscious computers are attacking us mere humans...I remember that movie, it gets ugly soon! LOL


This is one reason I shun the modern school programming and standard academics, btw. Thought it relevant to my points above.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...r-nobel-prize/

[noise]

curious, spellcheck seems the first way the slowly-conscious computers are attacking us mere humans...I remember that movie, it gets ugly soon! LOL


This is one reason I shun the modern school programming and standard academics, btw. Thought it relevant to my points above.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/...r-nobel-prize/

I'm not sure what that link has to do with researchers or experts in fields.

[oladub]

Fluoridating the water supply probably makes some sense in third world countries where disease is rampant or in counties like the US where litigation is such a threat.

"Many European countries have rejected water fluoridation in general. This includes: Austria, Belgium, Finland, France, Germany, Hungary, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Northern Ireland, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland,Scotland, Iceland, and Italy. A 2003 survey of over 500 Europeans from 16 countries concluded that "the vast majority of people opposed water fluoridation".

Fluoridation was declared illegal in Sweden, "The parliament majority said that there were other and better ways of reducing tooth decay than water fluoridation. Four cities received permission to fluoridate tap water when it was legal. An official commission was formed, which published its final report in 1981. They recommended other ways of reducing tooth decay [[improving food and oral hygiene habits) instead of fluoridating tap water. They also found that many people found fluoridation to infringe upon personal liberty/freedom of choice by forcing them to be medicated, and that the long-term effects of fluoridation were insufficiently acknowledged. They also lacked a proper study on the effects of fluoridation on formula-fed infants." -wikipedia

Japan doesn't fluoridate water either but Singapore does.

[Jimaz]

Well, the good news is that the TV for which we bought that remote didn't require any reprogramming at all. The remote worked right out of the box.

The even better news is that I was able to use the enclosed instructions to easily fix a remote for yet another TV that is shared by a certain group of impaired people. These people don't need or deserve any more difficulties in their life. So in the end the whole experience was a net positive.

Note to self: Instructions are your friend. Yea!

Even better yet, today I was able to correctly reprogram four more community remotes at that same facility. I think I got them all. No charge.

Recipe for a better world: Whenever you appear to be the only one to find a solution, leverage it by replicating it as far as possible.

Let's do that here: Comcast Digital Transport Adapter Universal Remote