Tar sands go to Chicago

[rb336]

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/201...sands-chicago/

[Papasito]

Not only does petroleum coke pose a serious risk to nearby air and water supplies, but the product can also be used as a cheaper — and even dirtier — alternative to coal.

Maybe if our Government didn't hate coal so much, industry wouldn't be turning to dirtier options?

[rb336]

yeah, let's go back to when large swaths of America looked like this:


and get it to compete with China like this:


Heck, let's go back to the days when most of the woodlands of places like Pennsylvania were almost destroyed by acid rain, to when you had to wash your car after just driving through Pittsburgh or Gary. Or when dioxin levels in fish were so high you could barely catch a fish in the Great Lakes that didn't have tumors. Those were the days

[old guy]

We have the technology to avoid all this crap, we're just not utilizing it.

[Papasito]

Thats an uneducated and generally inaccurate display of what coal does in the United States in the modern day, Rb. We have something called the EPA here in the USA these days, sets all kinds of clean air standards for coal power plants, ect. You might check into that.

Here's your first step in learning about US standards for Coal Energy:
http://www2.epa.gov/regulatory-infor...mmonpollutants

[rb336]

Papa, MOST people bemoaning the decrease in coal plants cite those very reasons for it. Coal is a mess. Yes, there is cleaner coal, but "clean coal" is as much a myth as a safe cigarette