George zimmerman.....not guilty!

[SPIRITED]

Gunz vs tootsie rolls.

Sure, the struggle happened, the gun shot was from up close, but what about reasonable force on the part of Trayvon? What about his self defence?

And again the convenient "matched the description" bit.

Thsi may end in massive demonstrations, it may also lead to riots. I hope not.

Banging George Zimmerman's head against the concrete and breaking his nose is considered lethal force. If Zimmerman didn't shoot Travon it might have been his last day alive. This is tragic, but justice is served. Blame the prosecution for doing a dismal job of convincing the jury.

[SPIRITED]

Has there been another case where the prosecution, unable to prove the charges was able to change to lesser charges during the trial?

[rb336]

Banging George Zimmerman's head against the concrete and breaking his nose is considered lethal force. If Zimmerman didn't shoot Travon it might have been his last day alive. This is tragic, but justice is served. Blame the prosecution for doing a dismal job of convincing the jury.

Too bad Martin didn't have a gun. he could have just shot Zimmerman and claimed "stand your ground"

[Downriviera]

Too bad Martin didn't have a gun. he could have just shot Zimmerman and claimed "stand your ground"

Good point. But he could only have legally used a gun if Zimmerman attacked him. Since Martin did not have a gun, maybe he should have continued walking, or maybe running home. Maybe he should have called 911 and reported a suspicious stranger following him instead of talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone. He chose to confront and attack a suspicious stranger who was armed. These days many people are armed. To confront someone that is following you, or confront someone in a road rage incident, or confront someone who ran over your toe with a shopping cart is dangerous. More so if you attack them, break their nose and slam their head on the pavement. I don't like Zimmerman at all, he never should have left his car. But the bottom line is he did not break any law by doing so. Zimmerman didn't get prison, but his life is now hell. Where can he work? Where can he live?

[canuck]

Banging George Zimmerman's head against the concrete and breaking his nose is considered lethal force. If Zimmerman didn't shoot Travon it might have been his last day alive. This is tragic, but justice is served. Blame the prosecution for doing a dismal job of convincing the jury.

Zimmerman really couldnt help going after the guy in spite of the police call to stay put. He had a gun, was a wannabe cop at the wrong time wrong place; at least in Trayvon Martin's case.

Zimmerman's ordeal is not finished, it is only the beginning. The NAACP will make sure a civil case goes forward.

[Meddle]

Maybe he should have called 911 and reported a suspicious stranger following him instead of talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone.

Yeah, that was one of my thoughts.

[Cincinnati_Kid]

Good point. But he could only have legally used a gun if Zimmerman attacked him. Since Martin did not have a gun, maybe he should have continued walking, or maybe running home. Maybe he should have called 911 and reported a suspicious stranger following him instead of talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone. He chose to confront and attack a suspicious stranger who was armed. These days many people are armed. To confront someone that is following you, or confront someone in a road rage incident, or confront someone who ran over your toe with a shopping cart is dangerous. More so if you attack them, break their nose and slam their head on the pavement. I don't like Zimmerman at all, he never should have left his car. But the bottom line is he did not break any law by doing so. Zimmerman didn't get prison, but his life is now hell. Where can he work? Where can he live?

He won't have to work. He's going to make all kinds of money being offered book deals, donations, file lawsuits vs NBC, movie deals etc.... He's still a scumbag who might have to live a guarded life for awhile, but he's still better off than a 17 year old who's life was ahead of him before it was snuffed out. And I don't want to hear any _hit about Martin being kicked out of school and smoking weed. I was 17 once and he did nothing any different than most teenagers as far as getting in to minor trouble and smoking weed. We've all been there. While I respect the verdict, it doesn't mean I have to like it. Martin's prosecutors are to blame for this with their suspect defense. They couldn't convince the jury. That kid still didn't deserve to die PERIOD.

[Hypestyles]

I don't expect that the jurors [[nor the defense, nor the prosecutors) will bat an eyelash for the rest of their lives. In due time, at least several of them [[also mr. zimmerman) will write a book[[s) and/or go on the paid lecture circuit talking about their "ordeal", considering all of the conservative-culture money that's there for the taking and people who see them all as superheroes now.

[SPIRITED]

I don't think Travon knew George had a gun. Not until some time during the fight. How many unarmed men would attacked a known armed man?

[Papasito]

And I don't want to hear any _hit about Martin being kicked out of school and smoking weed.

I have 2 teenage kids I raise by myself who have done neither. There's a difference between good parenting and bad parenting.

Zimmerman's life has been hell for the last year, and will continue to be hell. He's not going to be skipping through fields of flowers smiling from ear to ear without a care in the world... ever. He's going to have to worry about being murdered in revenge.

I don't expect that the jurors [[nor the defense, nor the prosecutors) will bat an eyelash for the rest of their lives.

Actually, the jurors are getting death threats. Classy.

George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer acquitted Saturday in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, is not the only recipient of death threats from users of Twitter. Now, some -- known as the "Twitter lynch mob" by Twitchy -- have targeted the six women who served on thejury with profane tweets that include racist slurs and death threats.

http://www.examiner.com/article/twit...-death-threats

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On Thursday, Twitchy reported that the social media site Twitter has exploded with death threatsagainst George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer on trial for the shooting death of Trayvon Martin.

http://www.examiner.com/article/twit...n-white-people

He's not going to be able to find a job unless it's in the adult film industry [[because it's probably the only place that will take him).

Since Martin did not have a gun, maybe he should have continued walking, or maybe running home. Maybe he should have called 911 and reported a suspicious stranger following him instead of talking to his girlfriend on his cell phone. He chose to confront and attack a suspicious stranger who was armed.

What he SHOULD have done was what any normal human being should do when being followed by law enforcement or a community watch patroller - introduce yourself with your hands clearly visable, tell them what the nature of your business is, and ask them if they would like to escort you or if you can go on with your business.
If Treyvon had openly introduced himself and did not "confront" Zimmerman, and had explained he was on his way to his father's house, and offered Zimmerman to escort him there if he had any doubts, or to let him be, both men would have avoided the tragic event that occurred.
Maybe I'm unfair in saying this? I know that this would be the way I would react to this situation. Treyvon HAD to have seen his clearly marked uniform and/or the clearly marked vehicle. The entire community was not completely dark. Especially the streets.

You tools want to use government to further divide the races over this ruling.

That's exactly what the NAACP is pushing for. The NAACP is a big batch of racism all rolled up into one big politically influential organization.

George Zimmerman’s legal woes may not be over; NAACP, others call for federal civil rights charges.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...st-g/?page=all

The only ones that are screaming race right now are the NAACP and those that are seeing Zimmerman as a white man who killed a black teenager. Oh yeah - and the ones who think that American citizens have no right to a concealed weapons permit.

...why so much hate against Hispanics?

Some people are screaming for the Feds to bring forth charges, but that would not be easy:

The FBI interviewed dozens of people after George Zimmerman shot Trayvon Martin, but none mentioned thinking the killing was racially motivated, according to evidence released on Thursday.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...154730328.html

George Zimmerman, charged with second-degree murder in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, had a "little hero complex" but was not a racist, a Sanford, Florida, homicide investigator told federal agents, according to reports released Thursday.
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The U.S. Department of Justice took up a civil rights investigation after allegations that race played a part in the killing of Martin, 17, in February in a gated community in Sanford, Florida. The reports released Thursday do not draw conclusions in that investigation.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/12/justic...teen-shooting/



The race baiters need to realize this was an unfortunate incident between a Hispanic man and a black teenager that ended tragically. This is not Bloody Sunday in 1965 where an obvious white hate incident has occurred. If you're looking for your racist smoking gun in 2013, this is not it.

The Selma-to-Montgomery March for voting rights ended three weeks--and three events--that represented the political and emotional peak of the modern civil rights movement. On "Bloody Sunday," March 7, 1965, some 600 civil rights marchers headed east out of Selma on U.S. Route 80. They got only as far as the Edmund Pettus Bridge six blocks away, where state and local lawmen attacked them with billy clubs and tear gas and drove them back into Selma.

http://www.nps.gov/nr/travel/civilrights/al4.htm

What can we learn from all of this? Maybe community service people should start wearing reflective jackets that more clearly identify themselves? Maybe if police did a better job there wouldn't have to be community watches in the first place? And if there are policemen doing the job, are we certain that if a white cop shoots a black teenager the same thing won't happen to him if Reverend Al and Reverend Jessie fly in and stir up the media?
I don't know what can come of this to improve us as a society except to see that when people with media influence pull the race card, the media reacts.

The Florida police chief whose department failed to arrest neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman in the February shooting death of unarmed black teenager Trayvon Martin was fired on Wednesday, the city of Sanford said.

This guy should be suing the State.

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Very disturbing story. Sounds as if the police went out of their way to protect the obvious psychotic Zimmerman; while they shrug their shoulders at the life of an unarmed child.

Floyd Mayweather Jr. - height and weight

5 feet 8 inches 146 lbs

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floyd_Mayweather,_Jr.

VS

Treyvon Martin - height and weight

6 feet 0 inches 160 lbs

Source: http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news...e-reports.html

[Papasito]

The comments on any news site ever indicate US citizens love racial division.

There is a vast array of racist.. oops I mean racial supremacy.. oops I mean racial equality groups. In my opinion they should all be dismantled so all people of all skin colors can be treated equally.

Thirty-seven percent [[37%) of American Adults think most black Americans are racist, according to a newRasmussen Reports national telephone survey. Just 15% consider most white Americans racist, while 18% say the same of most Hispanic Americans.

http://www.eurweb.com/2013/07/rasmus...and-hispanics/
[[To see survey question wording, click here.)

If you're watching the news today, every single channel is trying to stir things up to keep this race thing going. The media is doing their best to get people riled up and angry.

God forbid they cover the Boston Bomber or Fort Hood trials.
Is the media afraid of it? Personally I'd like to see them.

[coracle]

"If you're watching the news today, every single channel is trying to stir things up to keep this race thing going. The media is doing their best to get people riled up and angry. God forbid they cover the Boston Bomber or Fort Hood trials."

I was out and about over the weekend and didn't see any rioting; so presumably I was in areas where they don't watch TV much. I don't expect them to cover Boston/Fort Hood too closely because the victims mostly are too white to riot if things don't go their way; and the perps are Muslims so the Media won't want to draw attention to that; and they aren't white or nearly white so there's nothing to see there.

[guito13]

Gunz vs tootsie rolls.

Sure, the struggle happened, the gun shot was from up close, but what about reasonable force on the part of Trayvon? What about his self defence?

And again the convenient "matched the description" bit.

Thsi may end in massive demonstrations, it may also lead to riots. I hope not.

From all accounts, TM was on top of GZ beating the crap out of him. If I was in his position and I was in fear of my life you better bet I would use my gun as well.

I will concede that I probably wouldn't follow anyone, at least closely, but he did NOTHING wrong here.

Tragedy all the way around....

[noise]

From all accounts, TM was on top of GZ beating the crap out of him. If I was in his position and I was in fear of my life you better bet I would use my gun as well.

I will concede that I probably wouldn't follow anyone, at least closely, but he did NOTHING wrong here.

Tragedy all the way around....

His following, especially given the circumstances, could have been very harassing. That is definitely SOMETHING wrong here.

[guito13]

His following, especially given the circumstances, could have been very harassing. That is definitely SOMETHING wrong here.

Could you elaborate on the circumstances that would transform "following" to "harassing"?

[noise]

Could you elaborate on the circumstances that would transform "following" to "harassing"?

You're not that dense. Don't pretend to be. Buy a dictionary.

[rb336]

From all accounts, TM was on top of GZ beating the crap out of him. If I was in his position and I was in fear of my life you better bet I would use my gun as well.

I will concede that I probably wouldn't follow anyone, at least closely, but he did NOTHING wrong here.

Tragedy all the way around....

Not from all accounts, only by Zimmerman's. The extent of the damage wasn't very great and, frankly, could easily been caused by a one-punch knockdown. or even by the fat oaf slipping

[noise]

Not from all accounts, only by Zimmerman's. The extent of the damage wasn't very great and, frankly, could easily been caused by a one-punch knockdown. or even by the fat oaf slipping

And as it turns out, much less severe than being followed by a maniacal vigilante.

[Downtown Lady]

But it doesn't prove the he wasn't in fear of his life once confronted by Martin at which he has the right to defend himself.

He was not confronted by Martin. He confronted Martin.

[Downtown Lady]

You tools...

Necessary?

[guito13]

He was not confronted by Martin. He confronted Martin.

And you know this how?

[guito13]

You're not that dense. Don't pretend to be. Buy a dictionary.

I guess I am.

Could you elaborate on the circumstances that would transform "following" to "harassing"?

[Downtown Lady]

And you know this how?

He got out of the car.

[guito13]

He got out of the car.

So if i get out of the car to investigate something I see that is suspicious in my neighborhood, I am "Asking for trouble"?

[Meddle]

He was not confronted by Martin. He confronted Martin.

Wrong. Aside from anything else, it's pretty clear TM started the physical confrontation.