Does the Federal Government hate Detroit

DarkestbeforedawnDetroit · July-13-13, 01:27 PM

Im always hearing conspiracy theories about the government not caring about Detroit jusrt wondering everybodies thoughts on this matter.

**Meddle** · July-13-13, 01:51 PM

Why is there one of the largest Federal courts in the country, the FBI, DEA, and so many other federal offices and agencies?

**Honky Tonk** · July-13-13, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Meddle

Why is there one of the largest Federal courts in the country, the FBI, DEA, and so many other federal offices and agencies?

Why did Obama go out on a limb and bail out the auto industry?

**Honky Tonk** · July-13-13, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by DarkestbeforedawnDetroit

Im always hearing conspiracy theories about the government not caring about Detroit jusrt wondering everybodies thoughts on this matter.

Why are you asking this question?

**Danny** · July-13-13, 02:12 PM

It's just like Mitt Romney Said. "Let Detroit go Bankrupt!"

**401don** · July-13-13, 02:22 PM

Are you referring to the current Democratic Administration, the previous Republican one, any and all, or is it just a dumb, baseless question?

**hortonz** · July-13-13, 02:45 PM

Just like many of Windsor's problems can be attributed to incredibly bad and short-sightd decisions made at the highest levels of Canadian government, Detroit's economic and social problems were the direct result of disastrous decisions made at the highest levels of American government over the last half century.

**313WX** · July-13-13, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by DarkestbeforedawnDetroit

Im always hearing conspiracy theories about the government not caring about Detroit jusrt wondering everybodies thoughts on this matter.

No, the federal government doesn't hate Detroit.

If that were the case, then the state of Michigan damn sure hates Detroit.

**Danny** · July-13-13, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

No, the federal government doesn't hate Detroit.

If that were the case, then the state of Michigan damn sure hates Detroit.

The Republican dominate Michigan Legislature hates liberal Detroit.

**DetroitPlanner** · July-13-13, 07:35 PM

Danny with all due respect Romney has never held a position with the federal government and there is a big difference between the States and the feds.

**Hermod** · July-13-13, 07:48 PM

The Obamanator can't parachute in with huge bags of money because Congress has turned off the money spigot.

**Danny** · July-13-13, 09:39 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner

Danny with all due respect Romney has never held a position with the federal government and there is a big difference between the States and the feds.

But his political quotes really hurt Detroiters. Romney sees Detroit as poor black liberal city with financial problems and don't deserve any more money.

**Goose** · July-13-13, 09:41 PM

i dont know about the premise of this topic but i can say the NHL refs HATE the red wings

signed

wing nut

stevenh · July-13-13, 09:54 PM

Obama is not going to place a bet on a horse headed to the glue factory....

**MikeyinBrooklyn** · July-13-13, 09:57 PM

I don't think the government hates Detroit. I just wish everyone- including those in DC- would realize that our problems cannot be fixed elsewhere.

**poobert** · July-13-13, 10:15 PM

I'm going to go out on a limb and cite an actual source:

I think Detroit is totally unique,” Buckfire said. “It doesn’t set a precedent for anybody else. You’re talking about a city which has been hammered by two incredibly major trends. One is the decline of its core manufacturing base, which we all know about. Second, is the sheer political mismanagement ...
“Maybe you could have survived one; you can’t survive both"
The Detroit Free Press 7-11-13

The Feds don't hate Detroit. At worst, the Feds have had ambivalent relationship with Detroit. You could have thrown ten billion dollars at Detroit, either by way of Hitler or Stalin, and the result would have been the same with the leadership here.

Meanwhile you have those on each end of the spectrum with room temperature IQ who blame President Obama or the legislature.

The fact is that as wonderful as democracy is, people like that - like those two people present here as examples for us all - unfortunately have been voting, without being educated in any way, shape, or form, and have left us with the mess we have on our hands now.

The blame is not with the Feds, or the Japanese, or labor, or President Obama, or Mitt Romney. It lands squarely at home.

stevenh · July-13-13, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

I'm going to go out on a limb and cite an actual source:

I think Detroit is totally unique,” Buckfire said. “It doesn’t set a precedent for anybody else. You’re talking about a city which has been hammered by two incredibly major trends. One is the decline of its core manufacturing base, which we all know about. Second, is the sheer political mismanagement ...
“Maybe you could have survived one; you can’t survive both"
The Detroit Free Press 7-11-13

The Feds don't hate Detroit. At worst, the Feds have had ambivalent relationship with Detroit. You could have thrown ten billion dollars at Detroit, either by way of Hitler or Stalin, and the result would have been the same with the leadership here.

Meanwhile you have those on each end of the spectrum with room temperature IQ who blame President Obama or the legislature.

The fact is that as wonderful as democracy is, people like that - like those two people present here as examples for us all - unfortunately have been voting, without being educated in any way, shape, or form, and have left us with the mess we have on our hands now.

The blame is not with the Feds, or the Japanese, or labor, or President Obama, or Mitt Romney. It lands squarely at home.

Yep... bout sums it up.

**Honky Tonk** · July-13-13, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by poobert

I'm going to go out on a limb and cite an actual source:

I think Detroit is totally unique,” Buckfire said. “It doesn’t set a precedent for anybody else. You’re talking about a city which has been hammered by two incredibly major trends. One is the decline of its core manufacturing base, which we all know about. Second, is the sheer political mismanagement ...
“Maybe you could have survived one; you can’t survive both"
The Detroit Free Press 7-11-13

The Feds don't hate Detroit. At worst, the Feds have had ambivalent relationship with Detroit. You could have thrown ten billion dollars at Detroit, either by way of Hitler or Stalin, and the result would have been the same with the leadership here.

Meanwhile you have those on each end of the spectrum with room temperature IQ who blame President Obama or the legislature.

The fact is that as wonderful as democracy is, people like that - like those two people present here as examples for us all - unfortunately have been voting, without being educated in any way, shape, or form, and have left us with the mess we have on our hands now.

The blame is not with the Feds, or the Japanese, or labor, or President Obama, or Mitt Romney. It lands squarely at home.

I still think Obama should have sent us some, you know, bacon. In return for our votes.

**old guy** · July-14-13, 01:03 AM

Personally, I think that's an absurd assumption. What would be the premise for the Federal Government to hate Detroit. You can't even put a sentence together properly. In fact, what's the point of your post? There are about 2,854,251 Federal employees.

Financial Administration
Other Government Administration
Judicial and Legal
Police
Correction
Highways
Air Transportation
Water Transport & Terminals
Public Welfare
Health
Hospitals
Social Insurance Administration
Parks and Recreation
Housing and Community Development
Natural Resources
Nat Defense/International Relations
Postal Service
Space Research & Technology
Other Education*
Libraries
U.S. Coast Guard
U.S. Secret Service
Bureau of Customs and Border Protection
Federal Emergency Management Agency
Transportation Security Agency

Is it the Highway Dept. The U.S Coast Guard, Space Research and Technology, Parks and Recreation that are out to take down Deroit?

Maybe they hate Dubuque. I've heard rumors they have a vendetta for Wichita too.

**sumas** · July-14-13, 03:43 AM

Originally Posted by firstandten

This is one of the more intelligent boards I've ever had the pleasure to be involved with. Even with people I disagree with there is an amount of thoughtfulness that I appreciate. You put a question out there that was vague and you didn't help things by not putting any skin in the game by giving your thoughts on the matter. To then come back and call us retards and imply that you are disappointed because this wasn't an educated thread makes me think you would be better off posting with the Freep or News boards

I agree this is an intelligent board, so amazed at what folks will share.

**Hermod** · July-14-13, 04:22 AM

The idea is that the feds have to "prove their love" and the only way to show love is to shower money on clownsil to be pissed away into the abyss that is the Detroit fisc.

**stasu1213** · July-14-13, 06:45 AM

I don't think that the feds hate Detroit. Detroit had managed to slap away the feds helping hand. Remember Coleman Young calling President Reagan "prune face". The Bing administration had sat on money sent to Detroit from the feds. The money had to be sent back. LaHood came to Detroit to see the light rail project get off the ground but Snyder and Bing had stalled that idea for a couple of years. I still don't see any progress with that. GM is not Detroit.

**corktownyuppie** · July-14-13, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by stasu1213

LaHood came to Detroit to see the light rail project get off the ground but Snyder and Bing had stalled that idea for a couple of years. I still don't see any progress with that.

Not sure what you mean here...light rail project is a done deal. Shovels will be in the ground fairly soon. I admit that the progress is all behind the scenes in terms of design stages, contracts, etc. but this project is a total go.

Feds don't hate Detroit. If anything, they've been more helpful than hurtful. Buckfire said it best. You can't combine the depletion of manufacturing with decades of mismanagement; it's a disaster.

The worst thing about it? You blame the management and they point to the depletion of manufacturing. You blame the depletion of manufacturing, they point to the mismanagement.

The reality is that they are both to blame, and to some extent they both could have been minimized or avoided.

**compn** · July-14-13, 03:06 PM

you know who hates detroit?

detroit hates detroit.

how else do you figure rennovating a building for police and fire headquarters
while closing police and fire stations?