Survey: Camry more American than F-150

**wash_man** · July-05-09, 07:55 PM

"The findings are based on where each vehicle is built, its popularity based on sales volume and the percentage of the parts made in the U.S. based on the cost or value of those parts."

Uh, oh!

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...can-than-F-150

**Johnnny5** · July-05-09, 08:11 PM

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/fuzzymath

**ghein** · July-06-09, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by wash_man

" its popularity based on sales volume

And no TV is more American than Samsung...

If they're going to run a headline that says the Camry is the most "American," they should stick to the parts and manhours needed to make the car. Some people never read the story.

**DetroitHabitater** · July-06-09, 08:45 AM

and what percentage of the Camry was designed in America?

**East Detroit** · July-06-09, 09:50 AM

And what percentage of Toyota profits come back to the US or Michigan?

How about that new Toyota Education Center at the Detroit Zoo? Oh wait, that's the Ford Education Center.

Blarf · July-06-09, 11:57 AM

Yet another reason I laugh at those tards' who have those "out of the job yet? Keep buying foreign" bumper stickers.

I'm still wondering who makes the TV's, DVD players, and cell phones they own........

**Sstashmoo** · July-06-09, 12:37 PM

""I'm still wondering who makes the TV's, DVD players, and cell phones they own........""

The only people that make them, there is no alternative. Another industry lost.

Buy American · July-06-09, 01:12 PM

Profits from a $30,000.00 Toyota go back to Japan.

WHAT YOU DRIVE, DRIVES AMERICA!
OUT OF A JOB YET? KEEP BUYING FOREIGN!

**drjeff** · July-06-09, 01:32 PM

The confounding factor in that index is that sales figures are part of it. For examples, in the article the Camry is "more American" than the Ford Taurus because the Camry outsells the Taurus by 25,000 to 2,000. This is despite the fact that 90% of the Taurus is American built. So, in other words, this index is complete bullshit.

**ejames01** · July-06-09, 01:57 PM

The profits from EVERY corporation go to their shareholders. [[Except for socialist entities like the US Postal Service)

Originally Posted by Buy American

Profits from a $30,000.00 Toyota go back to Japan.

WHAT YOU DRIVE, DRIVES AMERICA!
OUT OF A JOB YET? KEEP BUYING FOREIGN!

**ghein** · July-06-09, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by ejames01

The profits from EVERY corporation go to their shareholders.

Just the dividends. Most profits are reinvested in the company however their leaders see fit.

**drjeff** · July-06-09, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by xstigmatax

Before spouting off like a robot you should really think about it for a second. They arn't shipping their cars over on freighters [[well except for the scions which i dont understand) and they have an active corporation here in the US.

Actually, they do still ship a lot of their cars here on freighters. No Priuses are built in the US. Do they build any engines and transmissions here?

**Patrick** · July-06-09, 02:37 PM

It is just a matter of time before the Southern states have their Toyota and Nissan plants "stolen" from them by Mexico. American companies do a LOT of assembly/manufacturing in Mexico and that number is going to rise dramatically in the next two decades. You can pay a worker at the ChryslerToluca plant $2-3 an hour with benefits. Hell, Toyota still pays its workers in the US roughly north of $23 an hour. I know for a fact that ALL the automakers are looking to expand there. Sucks for some people here in the US but that is the way things are going to go with our homeboy Nafta in effect.

Blarf · July-06-09, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Sstashmoo

""I'm still wondering who makes the TV's, DVD players, and cell phones they own........""

The only people that make them, there is no alternative. Another industry lost.

Sure there is. You don't have to own a TV, DVD player, or a cell phone.

If someone is going to preach to others that they should be buying American, it doesn't look good when the majority of the products they own come from overseas companies.

The ink used to print those bumper stickers probably comes from Europe.

And if you're going to preach buying American cars, make sure most of the parts in these "American" cars aren't built in Mexico and China first.

**artds** · July-06-09, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Buy American

Profits from a $30,000.00 Toyota go back to Japan.

Not really. Toyota has shareholders all over the world, including a substantial number here in the US.

**davewindsor** · July-06-09, 05:53 PM

Originally Posted by xstigmatax

Right, just ignore the factories Toyota of America runs, the 40,000 people they employ, the parts and such they buy from suppliers here and everything else.

Do you understand at all how international businesses operate? They don't go sending all of their money right back to their home country. It's like saying Ford sends all the money it makes in Korea right back to the US [[they don't for all the same reasons toyota doesn't plus some)

Before spouting off like a robot you should really think about it for a second. They arn't shipping their cars over on freighters [[well except for the scions which i dont understand) and they have an active corporation here in the US.

I think you're missing a valuable point here. Toyota's profits are sent to their home country. They really are. I don't see them spent anywhere else. Toyotas profits are not spent to help the US. When 9/11 happened, Ford donated $1 million to the American Red Cross and 10 Excursions to the NY Fire Department. Toyota donated zip!
When there's a natural disaster in the US, Ford donates to help. Toyota doesn't do anything.
The Ford family donated a lot of the most valuable artwork you see in the DIA making the DIA rated as the second largest fine arts collection in the US.
Henry Ford II was behind building the RenCentre to revitalize downtown in 70s after Detroit's decline when no one else wanted to invest.
Fourth Friday's in Campus Martius is sponsored by Ford not Toyota

Toyota does sh-it in giving back to this community, but I'm sure they use those profits to give back to Japan when they are in need. Which is why I'd buy another Ford F series pickup or Mustang over anything made by Toyota any day of the week regardless of its domestic content and you can enjoy your robotically heartless Toyota.

**runnerXT** · July-06-09, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

I think you're missing a valuable point here. Toyota's profits are sent to their home country. They really are. I don't see them spent anywhere else. Toyotas profits are not spent to help the US. When 9/11 happened, Ford donated $1 million to the American Red Cross and 10 Excursions to the NY Fire Department. Toyota donated zip!
When there's a natural disaster in the US, Ford donates to help. Toyota doesn't do anything.
The Ford family donated a lot of the most valuable artwork you see in the DIA making the DIA rated as the second largest fine arts collection in the US.
Henry Ford II was behind building the RenCentre to revitalize downtown in 70s after Detroit's decline when no one else wanted to invest.
Fourth Friday's in Campus Martius is sponsored by Ford not Toyota

Toyota does sh-it in giving back to this community, but I'm sure they use those profits to give back to Japan when they are in need. Which is why I'd buy another Ford F series pickup or Mustang over anything made by Toyota any day of the week regardless of its domestic content and you can enjoy your robotically heartless Toyota.

Toyota did contribute after 9/11

Toyota did contribute after Katrina

American Red Cross Recognizes Toyota USA for Lead Contribution to the California Wildfires
http://www2.redcross.org/pressreleas...4_7180,00.html

use google before making claims

It appears Toyota is very generous

**Sstashmoo** · July-06-09, 06:53 PM

Quote: "You don't have to own a TV, DVD player, or a cell phone."

Correction: We don't have to own any of those items made in a foreign country, we consume these things, we should be making them. We don't have to tolerate any of these countries dumping their junkshit on our markets, but we do, for the interim anyway.

**davewindsor** · July-06-09, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by runnerXT

Toyota did contribute after 9/11

Toyota did contribute after Katrina

American Red Cross Recognizes Toyota USA for Lead Contribution to the California Wildfires
http://www2.redcross.org/pressreleas...4_7180,00.html

use google before making claims

It appears Toyota is very generous

Did they? Google "CNN Headline news 911 contributions Toyota". I find some bogus sites saying it's a hoax, but show me the link from the American Red Cross that says they did donate.

Also, what specifically did Toyota do for Detroit or Michigan for that matter, since you're not rooting for the home team. I really want to hear this.

**runnerXT** · July-06-09, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by davewindsor

Did they? Google "CNN Headline news 911 contributions Toyota". I find some bogus sites saying it's a hoax, but show me the link from the American Red Cross that says they did donate.

Also, what specifically did Toyota do for Detroit or Michigan for that matter, since you're not rooting for the home team. I really want to hear this.

oh man dude that a hoax email that circulated around.

straight from the horses mouth:
http://www.lexus.com/about/news/arti...0011113_1.html

correcting false information is not rooting for the home team? ummm ok.

**Sstashmoo** · July-06-09, 08:34 PM

930 thousand dollar donation collected company wide?? In ratio to the amount of money these bastards yank out of this country, it is an insult.

They do nothing for the USA compared to what the Big3 has done over the years.

**runnerXT** · July-06-09, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Sstashmoo

930 thousand dollar donation collected company wide?? In ratio to the amount of money these bastards yank out of this country, it is an insult.

They do nothing for the USA compared to what the Big3 has done over the years.

thats not what the article says as a total lol

man america is in trouble

**mjs** · July-06-09, 08:47 PM

Welcome, RunnerXT. Its a struggle to get certain people here to trust facts over their emotional desire to trust unsubstantiated rumors, but don't give up the good fight.

**wash_man** · July-06-09, 08:52 PM

Oh, boy. Not this argument again.
http://snopes.com/rumors/automakers.asp

Buy American · July-06-09, 08:53 PM

All it will take is time for you gung ho "buy foreign" people to see the handwriting on the wall.....and it won't take long.

Watch your home value go down because of the foreclosures that dot the area.
Watch your friends, family and acquaintances lose their jobs, one after the other; watch them lose their health care; lose their homes. The American auto industry has been instrumental in our economy...when it's gone...there goes the neighborhoods.

When you need help, call Toyota or Honda and ask them for a job. Ask them for help and see where it gets all of you naysayers who are loyal to foreign rather than American. Believe your lame arguments regarding buying foreign if you must, but whether you want to hear it or not, WHAT YOU DRIVE, DRIVES AMERICA!