What ARE The Odds? LIBOR links to TWO Major Mass-murders

[Gannon]

What do you REALLY think the odds are that both the Aurora Theater AND this Connecticut shooter both had fathers set to testify in the largest banking scandal in the history of mankind?!


http://www.examiner.com/article/libo...ere-to-testify


Really. I want to see some serious discussion here, not emotional outbursts. Please.

[[yes, I'll attempt to restrain mine, too)


Sincerely,
John

[Gannon]

This is such a huge story, it should go viral.

Anyone who ignores this is playing along with the False Flag.

Sorry...you'll be found later to be working with evil.


When did the Weimar Republic ban weapons in Germany?! 1928...not long before the Nazi ascension.

[Gistok]

I think you got your facts wrong John....

In 1919 and 1920, to stabilize the country and in part to comply with the Treaty of Versailles, the German Weimar government passed very strict gun ownership restrictions. Article 169 of the Treaty of Versailles stated, "Within two months from the coming into force of the present Treaty, German arms, munitions, and war material, including anti-aircraft material, existing in Germany in excess of the quantities allowed, must be surrendered to the Governments of the Principal Allied and Associated Powers to be destroyed or rendered useless."

In 1919, the German government passed the Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which declared that "all firearms, as well as all kinds of firearms ammunition, are to be surrendered immediately." Under the regulations, anyone found in possession of a firearm or ammunition was subject to five years' imprisonment and a fine of 100,000 marks.
On August 7, 1920, the German government enacted a second gun-regulation law called the Law on the Disarmament of the People. It put into effect the provisions of the Versailles Treaty in regard to the limit on military-type weapons.
In 1928, the German government enacted the Law on Firearms and Ammunition. This law relaxed gun restrictions and put into effect a strict firearm licensing scheme. Under this scheme, Germans could possess firearms, but they were required to have separate permits to do the following: own or sell firearms, carry firearms [[including handguns), manufacture firearms, and professionally deal in firearms and ammunition. This law explicitly revoked the 1919 Regulations on Weapons Ownership, which had banned all firearms possession.
Stephen Halbrook writes about the German gun restriction laws in the 1919-1928 period, "Within a decade, Germany had gone from a brutal firearms seizure policy which, in times of unrest, entailed selective yet immediate execution for mere possession of a firearm, to a modern, comprehensive gun control law."

[Gannon]

Thanks for the education, Gistok. So, you're saying they were forced by outside influences to disarm their populace?!

Kinda like how the world is ganging up on us now.

What about how the Nazi's loosened up these laws somewhat, unless you happened to be JEWISH?!


What, exactly, are you defending here, Gistok?!

All I can see is how the laws preceded some of the worst repression of civilians in the modern age. I am for reducing the number of illegal guns on the streets, but FOR the increase in private, legal ownership by law-abiding individuals.


Cheers

[Gannon]

Nobody should ever require PERMISSION to own the means to defend themselves. That is a basic human right.

Yeah, I know there will be someone who will want to ask what the limit should then be...should we be able to own nuclear weapons and such.

Let's keep this within reason. Somehow.

[noise]

What are your thoughts on gun violence across countries and how countries with strict gun laws have basically done away with gun violence?

For comparison, look at the knife attack at the school in China that took place the same day as the Newtown, CT attack...no deaths.

[Gannon]

Humankind will always suffer those with outsized and undisciplined egos lashing out against others, attempting to put others under subjection.

I'd like to not distract from this LIBOR link, though. The issue is how and why these events happened, and perhaps why significant odd initial reports have never been followed up. I'd like to keep the focus on how the government uses these incidences, real or manufactured, to influence the population to do things they otherwise may not willingly do.

[noise]

Of course. Understood. My apologies for further derailing the thread.

[Gannon]

Of course. Understood. My apologies for further derailing the thread.

No apologies necessary...I'm one of the worst at that.

This is too important to clutter, though. I'm staying on tack today...

[JVB]

Everyone in Switzerland has a gun [[by law) and there is very little gun violence. It's not the guns, it's the people.

But back on topic, that is an interesting connection. When I dug into it I also found out that the words "Sandy Hook" were printed on the target map of Gotham in the movie Dark Knight Rising which was the movie James Holmes shot up.

That's another pretty interesting coincidence don't you think.

[Gannon]

There are many who believe the hidden or shadow government uses the media to warn everyone in plain sight...which, according to odd logic, allows them to escape the ultimate culpability. Others think it is the collective subconscious attempting to warn of a future event. Who knows?!

I lean toward the nefarious hidden government, since there IS significant evidence that they exist.

I start with Operation Northwoods. Kennedy stopped it, and a few months later his head was very publicly removed. We've been under a coup ever since.

There have been a few Bushes involved directly...heh.

[jcole]

Everyone in Switzerland has a gun [[by law) and there is very little gun violence. It's not the guns, it's the people.

But back on topic, that is an interesting connection. When I dug into it I also found out that the words "Sandy Hook" were printed on the target map of Gotham in the movie Dark Knight Rising which was the movie James Holmes shot up.

That's another pretty interesting coincidence don't you think.

The more famous Sandy Hook is in New Jersey. It was hit hard in Hurricane Sandy. I do think it'san interesting correlation, though.

[epiphany]

What do you REALLY think the odds are that both the Aurora Theater AND this Connecticut shooter both had fathers set to testify in the largest banking scandal in the history of mankind?!


http://www.examiner.com/article/libo...ere-to-testify


Really. I want to see some serious discussion here, not emotional outbursts. Please.

[[yes, I'll attempt to restrain mine, too)


Sincerely,
John

There are indeed a lot of similarities, Gannon. Both shooters were using weapons that the government wants to ban, both shootings have multiple witnesses that claim they saw a second or third shooter. What happened to them? They say that a second shooter - in military gear - was escorted into the nearby woods by a police officer. Now, the media refuses to mention anything about this supposed second shooter. It was the same at Columbine. MANY people saw *other* shooters, but the media refuses to report on it.

Check this out: http://columbinefamilyrequest.org/ma...d/mark-taylor/ Mark Taylor was a student at Columbine that was shot. He is now being detained [[even though his mom is trying to get him released) in a psychiatric facility and being force fed drugs. A lot of people that witnessed other shooters have been threatened.

[oladub]

Humankind will always suffer those with outsized and undisciplined egos lashing out against others, attempting to put others under subjection.

Gannon, It isn't clear whether your comment was limited to those with outsized and undisciplined egos who shoot innocent women and children with guns or was meant to include those who kill innocent women and children with bombs and drones. I don't jump to conclusions as quickly as you seem to but share with you an interest in anomalies and irony. Sometimes, I am restrained by not wanting to believe that people are capable of such evil. However, your article does bring up an amazing coincidence. If there are roughly 310M Americans, about 6 mass murders in the US per year, and a dozen [[wild guess) banker types having to testify before the LIBOR Committee, then the chances of both being a father of a mass murderer and being on required to testify before the LIBOR Committee are about [[6/310,000,000x12/310,000,000) = 72/96,100,000,000,000,000 = .00000000000000007492%. We can conclude that this is a startling coincidence but must await evidence to conclude more.

I would add to your list that crazed nanny who slit the throats of a CNBC news producer's kids whose story outed some corrupt bankers. After years of devoted service, it must have been a surprise. My guess is that the 1% won't be forced to give up all their temporary tax breaks because of all the sadness surrounding top bankers.

[JVB]

The more famous Sandy Hook is in New Jersey. It was hit hard in Hurricane Sandy. I do think it'san interesting correlation, though.

Yes, except that's not the area of the map. In fact, in the official Dark Knight Rising map of Gotham that area was called South Hinkley, but it was changed to Sandy Hook for the movie. I haven't been able to find any answers as to why it was changed for the movie.

[Gannon]

Actually, Ola...I don't limit the scope of enlargened or enraged egos to anyone, even myself. It is the healthiest way to remember that we are all in this together, and while we imagine those around us are not capable of bad behavior...the truth is we are each and all able to do some pretty horrendous stuff to others.

So, for instance, when I remember to pray...I try to make sure I not only say "deliver me from evil", but specifically speak against that elusive temptor of humankind...any unseen minions who work on that 'mission of distraction'...as well as any person who willingly or unwittingly does their bidding on this Earth, especially my own potential. We are all a yin/yang, and the one which wins is the force we feed.

It is best to never forget that...but it is human nature to not only do so, but to be in the common denial that you admit above.


Sincerely,
John

[Gannon]

Yes, except that's not the area of the map. In fact, in the official Dark Knight Rising map of Gotham that area was called South Hinkley, but it was changed to Sandy Hook for the movie. I haven't been able to find any answers as to why it was changed for the movie.

No shit?! whoa, this is getting more strange by the moment.


Ola, thanks for the catch on the nanny issue, too. We need to remember that LIBOR is the LARGEST banking scandal in human history. It could [[and should) bring down the international bankers...if only people understood how big it really is and how it affects them.


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[jcole]

Yes, except that's not the area of the map. In fact, in the official Dark Knight Rising map of Gotham that area was called South Hinkley, but it was changed to Sandy Hook for the movie. I haven't been able to find any answers as to why it was changed for the movie.

Yes, but the map area isn't north of NYC up in Connecticut either. It looks closer to the NJ area, on this map anyway.

[JVB]

Yes, but the map area isn't north of NYC up in Connecticut either. It looks closer to the NJ area, on this map anyway.

Gotham is a fictional place, so the map is not going to resemble any area specifically. Rather than looking at it geographically just look at the name change to Sandy Hook. Not saying it isn't a coincidence, but it is certainly an interesting one if it is. Especially considering this was the movie where the last mass shooting of this scale took place.

Anyway, not drawing any conclusions just found it quite peculiar.

[Gistok]

Thanks for the education, Gistok. So, you're saying they were forced by outside influences to disarm their populace?!

Kinda like how the world is ganging up on us now.

What about how the Nazi's loosened up these laws somewhat, unless you happened to be JEWISH?!


What, exactly, are you defending here, Gistok?!

All I can see is how the laws preceded some of the worst repression of civilians in the modern age. I am for reducing the number of illegal guns on the streets, but FOR the increase in private, legal ownership by law-abiding individuals.


Cheers

Not defending anything... you just got your facts wrong...

[gazhekwe]

There are other Sandy Hooks. Should they watch out?

Sandy Hook, KY, off I-64 east of Lexington
Sandy Hook Road, Shawboro, NC, heading down a point of land northwest of Kitty Hawk
Sandy Hook, VA, off I-64 northwest of Richmond
Sandy Hook Road, Goochland, VA [[LOVE this town name), a little farther west
Sandy Hook Road, Lakeland, FL, winter home of the Detroit Tigers
There are a couple of Sandy Hooks in OH, one near Parma and one near Stow
Sandy Hook Street in Wheaton, IL
Sandy Hook, MS just north of the LA border west of the Mississippi River
One town and four streets named Sandy Hook in TX, the town is south of Kingsville near Padre Island.
The streets are in Houston, Dallas, Highland Village and Austin.

There are more but someone else can have the fun of adding to the watch list.

[Gannon]

My comments were merely incomplete, not wrong. I used a site which didn't go back before 1928, apparently. Good enough to show that it was a buildup of legislation over time, some for apparently good reasons, which setup the horrors of the Nazi idiocy [[which you always oddly want to dance around and avoid). As you've caught before, I don't think we are very far from that here.

There should be NO restriction nor permission necessary for anyone to defend themselves [[their families and their properties), by any means necessary. Hell, you should be able to dig a moat if you want...LOL!

[Gannon]

There are other Sandy Hooks. Should they watch out?

Sandy Hook, KY, off I-64 east of Lexington
Sandy Hook Road, Shawboro, NC, heading down a point of land northwest of Kitty Hawk
Sandy Hook, VA, off I-64 northwest of Richmond
Sandy Hook Road, Goochland, VA [[LOVE this town name), a little farther west
Sandy Hook Road, Lakeland, FL, winter home of the Detroit Tigers
There are a couple of Sandy Hooks in OH, one near Parma and one near Stow
Sandy Hook Street in Wheaton, IL
Sandy Hook, MS just north of the LA border west of the Mississippi River
One town and four streets named Sandy Hook in TX, the town is south of Kingsville near Padre Island.
The streets are in Houston, Dallas, Highland Village and Austin.

There are more but someone else can have the fun of adding to the watch list.

Why, do you think lightning will strike twice?! Many apparently do...from the absolute hysteria all over the media today.

[Gannon]

Yanno, they might've simply changed the name to avoid using the name Hinkley. Too much like Hinckley, yanno...John Junior.

That was the son of GHW's best buddy who oddly went on his rampage against Ronald Reagan just after daddy was served a warning of a fine from the FDA, ostensively [[to some theorists, at least) for not supporting Bush over Reagan at the Detroit GOP convention in 1980. He was a remarkable shot with that shitty revolver, and didn't they enact some legislation in response to THAT event, too?! The Brady Bill...parading James Brady all over the place to insure it passed, too.

[JVB]

I always laugh when people are so quick to dismiss any government conspiracy when the government sends people to prison every day for taking part in criminal conspiracies.