Duggan officially filing for mayor

**brizee** · September-25-12, 10:20 PM

http://www.freep.com/article/20120925/NEWS01/120925098/Mike-Duggan-expected-file-Detroit-mayoral-bid-Wednesday?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE

I have no opinion on the guy. My sister is a RN at the DMC. She says other than him being a slob, he's on the ball in a competence. Apparently a stylist/PR person is gonna be a must for him.

We'll see. Bing was supposed to be a good fit and I'd rather have a used tampon as mayor.

**Bham1982** · September-26-12, 10:31 AM

IMO he is no improvement and has no chance.

I don't want a machine politican from Wayne County who moved into Detroit yesterday from Livonia.

If Bing loses, or doesn't run, I think Hansen Clarke has the best shot, and would be a reasonable improvement.

**Danny** · September-26-12, 12:43 PM

YAY!

Detroit needs a white mayor. Mike Duggan is that guy. His principles is a inside politician and a businessman would hopefully save Detroit from its financial and political woes. Duggan saved the DMC from going bankrupt. He can save Detroit in flash. Duggan will fight plantation politics to restore Detroit city services back to neighborhoods. His image will surprise venture capitalists and regional businesses to Downtown Detroit. Mike Duggan is for change and I urge all Detroiters to put away your dark past and vote for him.

If American can put Obama in the White House, Detroiters can put Duggan in the Black House.

MIKE DUGGAN FOR MAYOR 2013.

**401don** · September-26-12, 12:50 PM

"If Americans can put Obama in the White House, Detroiters can put Duggan in the Black House."

That's great Danny. Maybe you should be his campaign mgr!

**Bham1982** · September-26-12, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by Danny

YAY!

Duggan saved the DMC from going bankrupt.

Yeah, by selling DMC to private interests, and removing the public obligations. Not difficult to "save" an institution by just gutting it and selling the profitable functions.

**313WX** · September-26-12, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

IMO he is no improvement and has no chance.

I don't want a machine politican from Wayne County who moved into Detroit yesterday from Livonia.

If Bing loses, or doesn't run, I think Hansen Clarke has the best shot, and would be a reasonable improvement.

I would love to see Hansen Clarke run again.

He's pragmatic, yet he's actually in tune with the community he's representing.

**downtownguy** · September-26-12, 02:42 PM

^^Agreed. I admired him as a state legislator when he stood up to Archer and the bonehead idea to put casinos on the riverfront. He got my vote in the 2005 mayoral primary. Interesting to speculate what would have happened in Detroit had he won.

**Richard** · September-26-12, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

Yeah, by selling DMC to private interests, and removing the public obligations. Not difficult to "save" an institution by just gutting it and selling the profitable functions.

I think that it was the intent when Mr. Snyder put him in place, on one hand I think he would make a good mayor but if he is still tied as a right hand man to the Gov it kinda makes me wonder what is in store for the city.

There was speculation naming him as the EFM for the city but only speculation
http://domemagazine.com/tomwatkins/tw030212

**313WX** · September-26-12, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

I think that it was the intent when Mr. Snyder put him in place, on one hand I think he would make a good mayor but if he is still tied as a right hand man to the Gov it kinda makes me wonder what is in store for the city.

There was speculation naming him as the EFM for the city but only speculation
http://domemagazine.com/tomwatkins/tw030212

I'm think if Detroit had gotten an EM, it would have been Jack Martin.

**Det_ard** · September-26-12, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

I would love to see Hansen Clarke run again.

He's pragmatic, yet he's actually in tune with the community he's representing.

He might be an improvement over Bing, but he's not competent enough to run a distressed city 0f 700K people. I like the guy, but it'd be another case of a guy in over his head.

We can do better, can't we?

**Richard** · September-26-12, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by 313WX

I'm think if Detroit had gotten an EM, it would have been Jack Martin.

Mr. Snyder to Mr. Bing "Hey I hear that you are looking for a new CFO, there is this guy that is a EM at HPS " nudge nudge

But he does seem extremely well qualified,as long as he is allowed to do his job.

If Mr. Bing does leave I hope at least some of the talent is retained and everything does not have to start all over again.

**313WX** · September-26-12, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Richard

Mr. Snyder to Mr. Bing "Hey I hear that you are looking for a new CFO, there is this guy that is a EM at HPS " nudge nudge

But he does seem extremely well qualified,as long as he is allowed to do his job.

If Mr. Bing does leave I hope at least some of the talent is retained and everything does not have to start all over again.

Yeah, I'm not sure how that's going to play out. I know City Council voted for two members [[jointly approved an additional one with the Mayor) then I think the mayor had one appointee. The rest were either appointed by the state or joint appointees. However, I'm not sure if the wording in the agreement allows the new electorate to select their own appointees.

And of course, this is all assuming the Consent Agreement is still valid when/if PA4 is repealed.

**jtf1972** · September-26-12, 07:46 PM

If we're going to elect another carpet bagger, I say we should go all out & campaign for someone to move here that has an actual proven track record. Someone like a Mike Bloomberg. [[This would never happen though)

I don't believe Duggan will live in Detroit past running for [[or being) Mayor any more than I think Bing will. It would be nice to have a competent, honest Mayor who loves the city more than he does his own career.

**MidTownMs** · September-26-12, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Danny

YAY!

Detroit needs a white mayor. Mike Duggan is that guy. His principles is a inside politician and a businessman would hopefully save Detroit from its financial and political woes. Duggan saved the DMC from going bankrupt. He can save Detroit in flash. Duggan will fight plantation politics to restore Detroit city services back to neighborhoods. His image will surprise venture capitalists and regional businesses to Downtown Detroit. Mike Duggan is for change and I urge all Detroiters to put away your dark past and vote for him.

If American can put Obama in the White House, Detroiters can put Duggan in the Black House.

MIKE DUGGAN FOR MAYOR 2013.

The only way Detroit will ever have a white mayor is if both candidates are white...and that's not going to happen.

**Hypestyles** · September-27-12, 12:24 AM

hm. I wonder what these "coffee parties" are going to be like? I may stop by for the free cup of Panera coffee.. [[who's the snacks vendor at DMC?)

this will coincide with the new district-based city council elections.. the free for all has only begun. whee!

**getmoore** · September-27-12, 06:01 AM

Originally Posted by Hypestyles

hm. I wonder what these "coffee parties" are going to be like? I may stop by for the free cup of Panera coffee.. [[who's the snacks vendor at DMC?) this will coincide with the new district-based city council elections.. the free for all has only begun. whee!

I can't wait!!!!

**Lowell** · September-27-12, 09:12 AM

Listening to Mildred Gaddis show this AM, her straw poll for who the audience wanted to see as Mayor was 13-0.

For Benny Napoleon.

**louis** · September-27-12, 09:53 AM

i have met Mr. Clarke a couple times [[in Washington and Detroit) and i can confirm that he is really willing to listen to public input and is a very charming man, however out of personal experience i wouldn't say that he is "in tune" with Detroit.
Edit: also i heard he was thinking of running to replace Robert Ficano

**dmike76** · September-27-12, 10:04 AM

Hey Bham, whether or not its Duggan, why does it matter if he didn't live in the city six months ago? It's that Us vs. Them mentality that has been one of our region's biggest problems. Instead of in-state fighting we should be more unified and be competing with other states. It is in the best interests of the city AND the state to work together. Last time I checked, Detroit is in MICHIGAN. Personally, I'm tired of it. If the guy can do the job, then so be it.

**dmike76** · September-27-12, 10:11 AM

Detroit is not an island or it's own country. It's time for the idiots out there to start realizing that.

**Bham1982** · September-27-12, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by dmike76

Hey Bham, whether or not its Duggan, why does it matter if he didn't live in the city six months ago? It's that Us vs. Them mentality that has been one of our region's biggest problems.

I think it's relevant if nonresidents move into the city expressely for the purpose of running for some public office.

It doesn't mean they aren't worthy candidates, but it speaks to naked political ambition, and, in the case of a career machine politican from Livonia of all places, it's certainly worthy of discussion.

**dmike76** · September-27-12, 10:22 AM

Why again does it matter that he's from Livonia? Tell me. And also, doesn't a person become a politician because of political ambitions?

**poobert** · September-27-12, 10:22 AM

I thought Hansen Clarke was the greatest when he first ran. I voted for him and even supported him into this past election. However then I looked at his record - what exactly did he accomplish? He introduced legislation that was destined to fail. Outstanding person, it seems, but not a pragmatist. I ended up voting for Peters. Yes, me.

The name of the game is who is going to get the job done. I'm done caring about where people came from, and you know what? I'm sick of the rhetoric.

I think most people "care" on some level. We're programmed to. However every single blessed election - no matter what the office - for the past 30 years in this city has been some self-styled hero talking about how they're going to fight for the "young people and our elderly"

Oh yeah? Our young people are doing everything you can imagine in large numbers except graduating or becoming productive members of society. Our elderly - well, just pick up the damn paper. I'm sure some centenarian just got robbed for their rosary.

People are comparing Duggan to Bing and while there are similarities, Bing always struck me as incredibly inept, way before he got elected. His business was already failing while he was campaigning. The man isn't a leader, and never was, and that was always clear. Clear to everyone except the shadowy "business community" and local media, who served him the election by endlessly fawning over him.

That is the only thing that really troubles me about Duggan. The media and the ever-mysterious "business community" has already given him a de-facto endorsement. People bitch about who we elect in Detroit, but you know what? We don't. They're picked for us. When you drown out the rest of the candidates with free advertising in the form of front page news every day every time the guy farts, what do you expect? The greatest example was Kwamster. Hell, finks like Karmanos continued to bankroll him after he was out of office and in hot water.

I'm supportive of Duggan. Two qualities that are often overlooked are leadership and administrative skill. They take balls of steel, too [[I'm an administrator so I'm a little biased). I think he has those attributes and has demonstrated them, which Bing always sorely lacked. I couldn't care less if Duggan is Afghani or living on a houseboat if he can stop the madness.

**313WX** · September-27-12, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by jtf1972

If we're going to elect another carpet bagger, I say we should go all out & campaign for someone to move here that has an actual proven track record. Someone like a Mike Bloomberg. [[This would never happen though)

I don't believe Duggan will live in Detroit past running for [[or being) Mayor any more than I think Bing will. It would be nice to have a competent, honest Mayor who loves the city more than he does his own career.

That's my fear too.

Someone comes in out of nowhere from left field, damages the house even more, then simply runs for the hills and is never heard from again.

I want a candidate who's going to improve the state/city/country, but at the same time they should be able to do so honestly and be willing to sit in their shit once they created it.

This applies to the gubernatorial, mayoral and presidential election too.

**Wesley Mouch** · September-27-12, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by Bham1982

IMO he is no improvement and has no chance.

I don't want a machine politican from Wayne County who moved into Detroit yesterday from Livonia.....

I went to school with Mike Duggan -- IN DETROIT -- yes, within the city limits. For years.

Most [[older) residents of Livonia were residents. This qualifies them 100% to vote on the future of the city where they paid taxes before they were forced to leave by incompetence and corruption. Most would have loved to stay.

So I say 'bag away'. Find a better reason to hate.