Thoughts at large

[rb336]

what's up with nitrogen? first, they want us to put it in our tires, claiming getting rid of that 22% of normal air that isn't nitrogen has some benefit in reducing oxidation or something. so it will ad what, three days to the life of the tire? I know it is used in aircraft and the shuttle primarily because it doesn't burn

and since it doesn't combust, this is a natural...
now i see it "enhancing" gasoline. What, exactly, is the benefit there?

[Lorax]

There is none.

It's just another gimmick to defraud people of their hard earned money. Air is free- now they want us to pay for that too.

Reminds me of how cable was suppose to be commercial free, since we paid a nominal charge. Now there's more commercials on cable than anywhere else.

Corporations, when left to their own desires, will find a way to nickel and dime the consumer into oblivion.

Oh, that's right, we're already there.

[ccbatson]

Starting to wake up a bit to the various myths out there Rb? Like what you see? Sit down, take a deep breath, and look the myth of manmade global warming square in the face. Now that the objective [[taxing the you know what out of all of us) has crystalized, the con makes clear diabolic sense [[as I have always said it would).

[Lorax]

Starting to wake up a bit to the various myths out there Rb? Like what you see? Sit down, take a deep breath, and look the myth of manmade global warming square in the face. Now that the objective [[taxing the you know what out of all of us) has crystalized, the con makes clear diabolic sense [[as I have always said it would).

Is this "diabolic" enough for you?

[Detroitej72]

Starting to wake up a bit to the various myths out there Rb?

For someone who claims to take myths with a grain of salt, you sure buy the "liberal media" myth as well as the socialist healthcare myth.

[reddog289]

I get called a Republican and get blamed for stuff that is not my fault cause I really cross party lines when I vote. One thing I cannot figure out is why I like Obama and yet cannot stand the leadership of the democratic party? Who knows and who cares.

[rb336]

Originally Posted by ccbatson
Starting to wake up a bit to the various myths out there Rb?

For someone who claims to take myths with a grain of salt, you sure buy the "liberal media" myth as well as the socialist healthcare myth.

I, as always, am the first to point out myths. as j72 points out, you seem to be suckered in by most of them. you believe things that can not be proven in the face of overwhelming scientific proof to the contrary. you believe in the mystical "invisible hand" god of radical market fundamentalists, even though EVERY instance of unregulated markets throughout history, from the Dutch tulip market on, has resulted in financial disaster

[ccbatson]

History proves the effectiveness of capitalism repeatedly, as it does the failures of socialism [[right now being a prime example...with facts all over the place, deficits, unemployment, GDP, etc).

Speaking of myths that cannot be proven [[by design), try manmade global warming on for size.

[Jimaz]

Riddle: You have two coins that add up to 30¢. One of them isn't a nickel. What are the two coins?


Press Ctrl-A for the answer:

A quarter and a nickel. The coin that isn't a nickel is the quarter.

[ccbatson]

Do liberals realize that climatologists are documenting a global cooling period right now? And predicting the beginning of a decade [[or more) long naturally occurring cooling period?

[mjs]

One thing I cannot figure out is why I like Obama and yet cannot stand the leadership of the democratic party?

Its his attitude and manner of treating people. He tries to solve problems rather than laying blame for them. He says lets work together to help the needy rather than I'm going to make you give back what you stole from the needy you dirty son-of-a-bitch. He's also willing to admit when he's made a mistake and say nobody is perfect, lets try again with a new approach. He even listens to the other side. I've seen it work for corporate managers as well.

You probably also liked the Republican party, but was crushed and disheartened by the Bush administration after they were reelected because Obama is everything Bush refused to be.

[ccbatson]

Charisma + charm + media worship of him = personal approval despite an evil and a very harmful agenda.

[mjs]

Try humility + open mind + treating people with respect = A man of character deserving of respect.

[ccbatson]

Maybe the respect item [[a minimum requirement)...the others are laughable claims as he is the antithesis of both.

[mjs]

The Bush crew never treated their opponents with any respect to the point you have to wonder if there is something psychologically wrong with Cheney. The only thing that Bush's press conferences had in common was that you knew no matter what the facts or change in circumstances, he was going to swear to stay the course.

[ccbatson]

Like?? I recall no examples of disrespectful treatment.

[Lorax]

Like?? I recall no examples of disrespectful treatment.

Try these on for size:

Prick Cheney:

Cheney, serving in his role as president of the Senate, appeared in the chamber for a photo session. A chance meeting with Sen. Patrick J. Leahy [[Vt.), the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, became an argument about Cheney's ties to Halliburton Co., an international energy services corporation, and President Bush's judicial nominees. The exchange ended when Cheney offered some crass advice.
"Fuck yourself," said the man who is a heartbeat from the presidency.

"Oh, yeah. He is. Big time.'' --agreeing with then-candidate George W. Bush, who was overheard at a campaign rally saying, "There's Adam Clymer, major league asshole from The New York Times," Sept. 4, 2000


George Bush:

"You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." --to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005


This is an impressive crowd -- the haves and the have mores. Some people call you the elite -- I call you my base." --at the 2000 Al Smith dinner

[Detroitej72]

Home run, Lorax.

[mjs]

Like?? I recall no examples of disrespectful treatment.

Please, welcome to my home. Would you like anything? Coffee, tea, water boarding?

Thank you for your support. I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Just remember, that you're either for us or against us.


Its frighteningly similar to something I heard in a movie.

Anakin Skywalker: Don't lecture me, Obi-Wan! I see through the lies of the Jedi. I do not fear the dark side as you do. I have brought peace, freedom, justice, and security to my new Empire.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Your new Empire?
Anakin Skywalker: Don't make me kill you.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Anakin, my allegiance is to the Republic, to democracy.
Anakin Skywalker: If you're not with me, then you're my enemy.
Obi-Wan Kenobi: Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

[ccbatson]

Oh, you meant being disrespectful to terrorists...carry on then...sheesh.

Lucas's popcorn Sci Fi is entertaining, but not consistent philosophical theory. Obi-Wan's last line there is hilarious and self contradictory...he absolutely asserts the absolute that only Sith's deal in absolutes...is Obi-Wan a Sith?

Even better from the 3 stooges: Mo: Only fools are positive.
Larry: Are you sure?
Mo: I'm positive.

[mjs]

Yeah, I suppose if you define everyone that has a different opinion than you to be a terrorist.

[Detroitej72]

Oh, you meant being disrespectful to terrorists...carry on then...sheesh.

So now you consider divorced mothers of three terrorists?

[ccbatson]

That was a compliment directed at the person working 3 jobs.

[Pam]

Why can't my stupid neighbors learn to close the dumpster doors?

[Lorax]

Why can't my stupid neighbors learn to close the dumpster doors?

Because Batts is always leaving them open.