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    Are we sure they made a CHOICE?

    Free will might be an illusion

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1953 View Post
    Are we sure they made a CHOICE?

    Free will might be an illusion

    That is heavy,it reminded me of back when the whole stores that piped music were embedding subliminal messages to buy more hysteria was going around.

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    Well, for what it's worth, OJ will be paroled tomorrow. He'll be out in October and will continue the hunt for his stolen footballs. [[Hey, tongue-in-cheek).

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    Hard serious narcotics - large quantities - need Death Sentences


    http://www.rsdhope.org/schedule-or-c...-of-drugs.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    Hard serious narcotics - large quantities - need Death Sentences


    http://www.rsdhope.org/schedule-or-c...-of-drugs.html
    Have you considered living in the Middle East? That might satisfy your bloodlust.

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    Hard drugs kill people - it speeds up the death factor for users.
    Distributing large quantities of hard narcotics often involves death.

    These people are not contributing to society.
    They are a drain on everything in an ordinary society.

    The USA would be better off eliminating these idiots moving
    large quantities of hard narcotics around American cities.

    Bloodlust - almost every movie today involves blood and gore.
    The USA eats it up, pays out of pocket to watch more, wants more.

    I just want justice and cleaner streets without thieves, drugged up bums, and gangs killing innocent civilians in drive by shootings over turf wars.

    The war on drugs terminology came from those far removed from me

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    Hard drugs kill people - it speeds up the death factor for users.
    Distributing large quantities of hard narcotics often involves death.

    These people are not contributing to society.
    They are a drain on everything in an ordinary society.

    The USA would be better off eliminating these idiots moving
    large quantities of hard narcotics around American cities.

    Bloodlust - almost every movie today involves blood and gore.
    The USA eats it up, pays out of pocket to watch more, wants more.

    I just want justice and cleaner streets without thieves, drugged up bums, and gangs killing innocent civilians in drive by shootings over turf wars.

    The war on drugs terminology came from those far removed from me
    Justice? By whose definition? Move along son, and try to get a grip.

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    NOT your son, or anyone else's
    - and many want hard drug distribution crushed/stopped.

    The approach used the past 50+ years has proven itself useless.

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    The crushed/stopped approach used the past 50+ years has proven itself useless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    NOT your son, or anyone else's
    - and many want hard drug distribution crushed/stopped.

    The approach used the past 50+ years has proven itself useless.
    I'll take you at your word about your family status, whatever it is.

    "Many people want hard drug distribution crushed/stopped"? Like "St. Ronald" & Ollie North? Ever hear of Iran-Contra? I'm with you if you want the death penalty for people like them, what say you?

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    It goes kinda like this

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dcxBWbyDjIg

    It is all a matter of odds and the only things that happen are.

    You get in and make a lot of money real quick and get out.

    You get in and make a lot of money really quick and not get out and either end up dead or in prison for a very long time.Everybody involved knows the risk and outcome.

    It is always about money,16 year olds can jump in a boat and pick up a load and make $15,000 for a two hour ride,are you going to work at mc Donald's ? Do that 4 or 5 times a week.

    It does not matter if you kill one dealer there will be another to take thier place before the body is buried.

    The gov declared war on drugs and the first thing they did was stop the flow of weed which pushed those looking to get high to Cocaine.Then the gov sees the profit in it and floods the country with it.

    Then they put everybody in jail that used the product they supplied.

    The demand was not there until they created it.

    It used to be it was nothing to move 30,000 lbs of weed around with little recourse then it went to where trying to find one lb drew attention and arrest,it was easier to move 500 kilos and way more profitable.

    It will not stop and when they crack down it just moves the choice of drug around,now it is meth,spice,pills etc.

    It is black market that has been around from the beginning of time,but how we deal with it is what makes us as a country.

    How many are sitting in jail for a little weed consuming resources while others are dieing in the streets from a pill.That war will never be won,there is way to much profit in it.

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    I say streamline it all - a few weeks "holding" and then execute them.
    The jail thing is a deterrent to no one, just costs taxpayers a fortune, yearly.
    Skip the death row for years at a time nonsense. Rehabilitation is a joke.

    Execute those directly involved with multiple kilos of hard narcotics.
    A simple .30 caliber Winchester rifle for 5 men, and down they go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    I say streamline it all - a few weeks "holding" and then execute them.
    The jail thing is a deterrent to no one, just costs taxpayers a fortune, yearly.
    Skip the death row for years at a time nonsense. Rehabilitation is a joke.

    Execute those directly involved with multiple kilos of hard narcotics.
    A simple .30 caliber Winchester rifle for 5 men, and down they go.
    You really have a "thing" for executing people... maybe you could be drinking buddies with Philippine president Rodrigo "Death Squad" Duterte...

    http://www.npr.org/sections/parallel...oody-war-on-dr
    Last edited by Gistok; July-23-17 at 02:07 AM.

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    I would rather execute the complete assholes in society
    caught with a KILO or more of hard narcotics for distribution;
    - Than pay large sums of money to give them shelter and food

    Drug dealers are scum, non-contributing leaches of society.

    If others want to show empathy, compassion, love for them,
    go ahead, just don't spend the working man's tax monies on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    I would rather execute the complete assholes in society
    caught with a KILO or more of hard narcotics for distribution;
    - Than pay large sums of money to give them shelter and food

    Drug dealers are scum, non-contributing leaches of society.

    If others want to show empathy, compassion, love for them,
    go ahead, just don't spend the working man's tax monies on them.

    Once you open that door door when does it close?

    Do we then add child molesters to the list or people of certain religions that we do not agree with?

    The door was opened with forfeiture laws and now people are fighting to have legit funds returned.

    Show me the total funds of assets seized from high end dealers verses the cost of incarceration and I think you may find if that money was applied the cost to the working man is very little.

    2012 4.2 billion was seized in country alone.

    The Miami skyline was built with drug money and the intense violence was not a factor until the government supported the Cuban boat lift knowing full well it was going to start a Cuban/Columbian war in the streets.

    People like Escobar were nobody's ,just street level thugs before the US gov got involved.

    The waste occurs when states use taxpayer funds in order to incarcerate the adverage joe for a small amount.

    Just discussing a deal without even following through is considered a conspiracy and will get one 5 years.
    Last edited by Richard; July-23-17 at 11:20 AM.

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    I open the door - for those that contribute towards killing others.
    Drugs kill people every day, in the USA and around the world.

    Practice whatever religion you desire, in your home, at a worship site,
    --just don't push it upon others, and infringe upon their well being.

    I say it clearly - again - execute for possession of a KILO of narcotics.
    Really don't give a shit if you have a roach or joint in your underwear.

    A kilo of cocaine is about $30,000 - not pocket change to most folks.

    If the kitchen table looks like this when the Feds bust down the door
    - you should be up for execution, since you don't care about human life.
    https://villagevoice.freetls.fastly..../02/drugs2.jpg

    Not even a drug dealer really wants to die,
    so quick execution of them across the USA,
    would be a true deterrent. Play hardball !!

    I say skip the extended incarceration, the jail for profit idiocy.
    Last edited by O3H; July-23-17 at 03:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    Practice whatever religion you desire, in your home, at a worship site,
    --just don't push it upon others, and infringe upon their well being.
    Physician, heal thy self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Honky Tonk View Post
    Physician, heal thy self.
    I'm good Honkey Tonk - no pharmaceuticals or gods needed - thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by O3H View Post
    I open the door - for those that contribute towards killing others.
    Drugs kill people every day, in the USA and around the world.

    Practice whatever religion you desire, in your home, at a worship site,
    --just don't push it upon others, and infringe upon their well being.

    I say it clearly - again - execute for possession of a KILO of narcotics.
    Really don't give a shit if you have a roach or joint in your underwear.

    A kilo of cocaine is about $30,000 - not pocket change to most folks.

    If the kitchen table looks like this when the Feds bust down the door
    - you should be up for execution, since you don't care about human life.
    https://villagevoice.freetls.fastly..../02/drugs2.jpg

    Not even a drug dealer really wants to die,
    so quick execution of them across the USA,
    would be a true deterrent. Play hardball !!

    I say skip the extended incarceration, the jail for profit idiocy.

    Just for SG

    That is a table in a office and not a kitchen table,see the car key fob in the upper right hand corner,with the little blue tab attached.

    How do you know how much a key is anyways but not know that if you are hauling around 30 keys you are prepared to die at any given second.

    There are countries that have death sentences for drugs,but yet reportably produce some of the best hashish and Heroine in the world,not much of a deterrent there.

    It is not a winable war with no alternative given,legalize pot and give those an alternative then go after the hard stuff.

    I used to smoke [[but never inhaled) and owned night clubs and without a doubt would rather see people drive stoned then drunk,or methed out of blubbering on pain killers,but that is where the money is,so it will stay the same rinse and repeat.

    It does not matter if you got your wish,all you would be doing is playing whack a mole and providing physiatrists for the executioner.

    The one thing I do not agree with in this thread is the concept of I was not violent in the drug field so I deserve credit.Where there is weight there is violence and people die.From what I have read anyways.

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    'White Boy Rick' to be released in July

    Detroit's other celebrity inmate will finally see freedom. How does his crimes and sentences compare to Kwame's?

    "'Richard “White Boy Rick” Wershe Jr. is now scheduled to be released from custody July 20, according to the Florida Department of Corrections.
    ...
    Officials from the Florida Department of Corrections did not respond to a Free Press request for comment about Wershe's upcoming release."
    https://freep-mi.newsmemory.com?publ...9a6c62_1343672

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    They will not release his info because they do not want the Russians to get a lock on him while still in Fla.

    Kilpatrick was worse,as a public official you do not expect the ones tasked to look out for your best interests to be stabbing you in the back,which is more of a lowly street thug game.

    I remember a time in Miami where 8 kilos was a disappointing bust,considered a weekend stash.

    Even at that,I have heard of others doing 30 years for smuggling 5 kilos into the port these days.

    Strange how that works,in the 70s high schoolers could meet the ship on a Friday night and make a quick $15,000 running weed to the dock in one trip.

    Now it is legal.
    Last edited by Richard; May-26-20 at 04:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1953 View Post
    Are we sure they made a CHOICE?

    Free will might be an illusion
    IMHO, the only free choice is in 'the liberty of indifference' so called.

    But the juror who votes to convict is equally as unfree as the boy who sells crack. The illusion of choice is universal.

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