CC Bats - the Insurgent. Mister hit and run.

[Lorax]

Finally? How about always?

How about rarely.

You're stepping way up in class.

[ccbatson]

Check my posts on that subject....in every instance, I have clearly pointed out that oil is/was a vital interest of ours and crucial to our decisions as to what actions to take and when.

[Lorax]

Check my posts on that subject....in every instance, I have clearly pointed out that oil is/was a vital interest of ours and crucial to our decisions as to what actions to take and when.

Gotta love the proverbial backpedal.

Is it difficult to do a drive-by in reverse?

[mjs]

I have to protect ccbatson on this one. The guy always admits his underlying belief that supporting US corporate interest will result in what is best for the country. Because he also believes that there were terrorist bases in Iraq, doesn't mean he disclaims the first claim.

Some argue that if the Middle East didn't have oil, we wouldn't be there and as a result, there would be no islamic terrorists. I believe a more realistic scenario would be that there would be plenty of terrorists, but since the victims aren't American, as usual, we wouldn't give a crap. You know, Somalia, Rwanda, and Afghanistan from the fall of the USSR until 9/11.

All atrocities for the UN to handle. I wish we handled less on our own and more through the UN. Especially if we made a veto power require the vote of two permanent UN nations rather than one. Then when other countries complain about an international situation and say America should do more, we can point out they have less GDP going to the UN and less manpower as a percent of population and legitimately tell them to go fuck off.

[Bigb23]

I wish the previous administration didn't tell the UN to go take a hike so we wouldn't be in the Federal financial straits we're in now.

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[mjs]

Oh, I hear ya.

[Lorax]

I have to protect ccbatson on this one. The guy always admits his underlying belief that supporting US corporate interest will result in what is best for the country. Because he also believes that there were terrorist bases in Iraq, doesn't mean he disclaims the first claim.

Some argue that if the Middle East didn't have oil, we wouldn't be there and as a result, there would be no islamic terrorists. I believe a more realistic scenario would be that there would be plenty of terrorists, but since the victims aren't American, as usual, we wouldn't give a crap. You know, Somalia, Rwanda, and Afghanistan from the fall of the USSR until 9/11.

All atrocities for the UN to handle. I wish we handled less on our own and more through the UN. Especially if we made a veto power require the vote of two permanent UN nations rather than one. Then when other countries complain about an international situation and say America should do more, we can point out they have less GDP going to the UN and less manpower as a percent of population and legitimately tell them to go fuck off.

All true, but as an aside, we would have little or no interest in the middle east without the oil. It would have about as much strategic interest to us as Tahiti does.

In any event, the UN situation you got right on all levels.

[ccbatson]

Backpedaling to point out that 100 percent of the time and on numerous occasions I have expressed this position?

[Lorax]

Backpedaling to point out that 100 percent of the time and on numerous occasions I have expressed this position?

It must be so thrilling to have your own thread!

If this were a Progressive Insurance ad, you'd have your own aisle- the Batboy Aisle.

Not to worry, no one's interested in shopping in your aisle.

[ccbatson]

And who started said thread? Not I.

[Lorax]

True, but it's all about you! Thrilling!

[East Detroit]

Not to worry, no one's interested in shopping in your aisle.

You seem pretty interested.

[ccbatson]

Another admission of error from Lorax? There may be hope for him yet.

[Lorax]

Another admission of error from Lorax? There may be hope for him yet.

What admission? Hello? Anyone home? Guess not.

Yes, folks, the Batts' left the belfry.

[1KielsonDrive]

Ignore him/her/it if you like. Respond to him/her/it if you like. Comment if you like. Whatever. I don't pay attention to him/her/it about 99.99% of the time. I get a kick out of how he/she/it get's all riled up and manic when he/she/it's name is mentioned. Boom, boom, boom - posting frenzy.

[Omaha]

I hate to add to this thread, thereby stoking Cc’s ego, but here’s my two cents worth.

Gee, the thought that Cc is a self-absorbed, delusional, troll/arsonist appears to be a strongly held position by some DY posters. I’ll just bet if you keep your descriptive analysis up, one of two things will happen: either Cc will wilt under the pressure of carefully targeted criticism and re-evaluate his world view thereby depriving DY forum readers of his “wit and wisdom,� OR he will view the negative feedback as ego-stroking which will stimulate him to continue dropping his pearls of wisdom extolling free market solutions to social and economic problems of every stripe and color.

He has a strong belief that if everyone just engaged in a “me-first� self-directed form of engaging the world, all would be well because “markets are self-correcting.� So don’t let his distaste for all things liberal [[as he defines the term) get under your skin. It won’t do your blood pressure any good [[Lorax). Sure you may get mad at him as you would an unruly child who just believes that NIN is the best musical group ever, and who wants to convince everyone else of that truth. But he is no more than that…an unruly child with access to the internet.

So everyone take a chill pill. Don’t let his rantings get to you. Do what I do…when I read his pearls of wisdom, I become amused by how like the NIN fan I mentioned above he is, and his words are magically turned into “blah, blah, blah.� Oh sure, I occasionally respond to a post of his, but I do it with the kind of ironic insight that baffles readers of the right and left alike.

So ignore Cc or don’t. Either way, it won’t change what he posts. But carefully scrutinize mine. Why? Because I am not a devoted follower of false profits like Ayn Rand, rather, I am a devotee of the great and powerful Stephen Colbert.

[Detroitej72]

Omaha, your posts are truly refreshing, keep them coming.

Bats has some good points, many way out of right field, but he is entertaining, to say the least. His opinions are a good counter balance to the non Detroit board and I, for one, would feel a void if he ever stopped posting here.

[gnome]

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[alsodave]

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Thanks for sharing!

Back to the thread [[or not...)

[ccbatson]

NIN? I am not sure I know which songs are theirs, let alone whether I am a fan. I know that I haven't purchased any of their stuff [[but that doesn't mean that I dislike them, they just haven't come up on my radar).

Anyway, intended or not, the attention given to me here is flattering, sometimes in a twisted way, and thanks anyway.

[LodgeDodger]

My question for Bats is, how are your interpersonal relationships at work? Do you get along with others? How about in your personal life? Of course, you could tell me to f*** off, but that wouldn't be any fun.

I work with a guy with your similar views.

[rb336]

watch his posting habits. every other weekend, he seems to barely post at all, then the next it's all over the place

[jams]

Anyway, intended or not, the attention given to me here is flattering, sometimes in a twisted way, and thanks anyway.

While, I do respond to him on a few threads, for the most part, I've come to ignore most of his tripe and predictible responses to anything other than his own view.

Count it as a win, if you wish, Cc, but you've just become tedious.

[ccbatson]

A few? how many of your 174?

[Bigb23]

Count it as a win, if you wish, Cc, but you've just become tedious.

Damn jams, you made me open up another of his redundant replies. [[Same ol' same ol').