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    Default Former Miss USA Arrested for DUI in Highland Park

    Cop Didn't Know Who The *&$# She Was, Part Two

    I think this is funny. Technically this is a Detroit story because Highland Park is trapped within the city.

    http://www.freep.com/article/2011120...xt|FRONTPAGE|s

    Miss USA announces to the officers pulling her over that she IS indeed Miss USA, and is only driving a friend's car...so what is the big deal about driving 25-over while swerving through traffic without using her turn signals?!

    Sure would like to see how this one turns out. My bet is the Miss USA folks will not be happy with her using that as her FIRST line of defense. Pretty certain her Muslim supporters will not be enthused that she was twice the legal limit for alcohol use before driving, although they could spin it against the Western world which obviously has enticed her away from proper Islamic values...even unto not wearing her Burka.

    SO many things...not enough caffeine.

    Cheers, if you're going to drink and drive...don't speed and swerve. Plus, cops are jealous of anyone else changing lanes and turning without correct signalling. That's part of their job description, apparently.
    Last edited by Gannon; December-07-11 at 11:18 AM. Reason: one too many p's

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    With all the drunk driving convictions to politicians, athletes etc.it is clear that the minimal punishment is no deterrent whatsoever. I say 3-5 year driving suspensions on the first offence. Maybe then a new lobby group "Pseudo Celebrities for Better Public Transit" could be formed.

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    She's probably 3 or 4 decades too late to play the "Do you know who I am" card.
    Back in the 50's, 60's and 70's being Miss USA use to be a big deal.
    I don't think anyone gives a bleep about it now.
    Last edited by rjk; December-07-11 at 08:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    Pretty certain her Muslim suppporters will not be enthused that she was twice the legal limit for alcohol use before driving, although they could spin it against the Western world which obviously has enticed her away from proper Islamic values...even unto not wearing her Burka.
    Was that really necessary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 401don View Post
    With all the drunk driving convictions to politicians, athletes etc.it is clear that the minimal punishment is no deterrent whatsoever. I say 3-5 year driving suspensions on the first offence. Maybe then a new lobby group "Pseudo Celebrities for Better Public Transit" could be formed.


    What IF...it is undeterrable?!

    I mean, if a Constitutional Amendment against alcohol manufacturing and distribution couldn't curb problem drinking...and instead created an occasionally-violent underground community which was estimated as THREE TIMES the size of the previously legal one [[I just read that with the anniversary of Prohibition's repeal, which passed last week)...what hope does anyone really think they have enforcing their particular morality upon another?! I'm not sure laws can make that happen...even the direct Constitutional ones.




    Sincerely,
    John
    Last edited by Gannon; December-07-11 at 08:48 AM.

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    How much of anything we say is necessary?

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    I have to admit that is something you don't see everyday, a drunken Arab girl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    What IF...it is undeterrable?!

    I mean, if a Constitutional Amendment against alcohol manufacturing and distribution couldn't curb problem drinking...and instead created an occasionally-violent underground community which was estimated as THREE TIMES the size of the previously legal one [[I just read that with the anniversary of Prohibition's repeal, which passed last week)...what hope does anyone really think they have enforcing their particular morality upon another?! I'm not sure laws can make that happen...even the direct Constitutional ones.

    No, we cannot legislate morality. We can however suspend your driving PRIVILEGES for three to five years and we can also legislate CONFISCATION [[not impounding) of cars driven by people with suspended licenses or driving without proper insurance. The basic principle here is seeing that people who should not be on the roads paid for by the public are UNHORSED.

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    So, the cheap, disposable horse industry will merely increase production to meet demand.

    Maybe someone will start renting 'em.


    Man's not going to walk in the rain home from the saloon! You can't expect a princess with a champagne addiction to, either.

    So...the sober driver industry better make their product more available, reliable, and otherwise attractive. Isn't Taxi the only word ubiquitous to all languages?! Maybe that is the fourth oldest business in history.


    The answer is to give people an attractive alternative they can afford...if we believe in such as a community then we must make mass transit available easily when the bars close, and Miss USA parties are over.


    Cheers!
    Last edited by Gannon; December-07-11 at 10:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R8RBOB View Post
    I have to admit that is something you don't see everyday, a drunken Arab girl.
    Have you ever been to Greektown Casino?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    Was that really necessary?
    Was that a statement pretending to be a question?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravine View Post
    Was that a statement pretending to be a question?
    If there was a good reason for him making an extremely broad and blanket statement about Muslims then that was his prompt to explain himself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    If there was a good reason for him making an extremely broad and blanket statement about Muslims then that was his prompt to explain himself.

    its a broad and blanket statement to note that Muslims frown upon the use of alcohol and typically the women wear burkas?

    how insensitive of him!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    its a broad and blanket statement to note that Muslims frown upon the use of alcohol and typically the women wear burkas?

    how insensitive of him!!!!
    Christians don't frown upon alcohol use? What was the point of bringing up her religious background?

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    That might be part of the base definition of Xtian, then...those who deny Jesus/Yeshua made wine out of water, during one of his earliest recorded uniquely-cool moves. Come to think of it, another included water...h-m-m-n-n.


    But yeah, it isn't any surprise that some within any religion frown on excessive alcohol abuse, it interferes with their herding...and being heard.


    Cheers,
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    its a broad and blanket statement to note that Muslims frown upon the use of alcohol and typically the women wear burkas?
    Also wouldn't think a so called Muslim would be doing a Stripper Pole Contest. Maybe that was her Christian side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcole View Post
    Have you ever been to Greektown Casino?
    I used to go there and I wasn't paying attention because I was getting my ass kicked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    its a broad and blanket statement to note that Muslims frown upon the use of alcohol and typically the women wear burkas?
    Also wouldn't think a so called Muslim would be doing a Stripper Pole Contest. Maybe that was her Christian side.

    It doesn't look like she's stripping to me. What exactly is a "so-called" muslim?

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    Y'all need to remember that she is an American woman of Arabic decent. That's a huge difference from the image some of the closed-minded are trying to portray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MidTownMs View Post
    It doesn't look like she's stripping to me. What exactly is a "so-called" muslim?
    I'm sorry let me rephrase it. Also wouldn't think a Muslim would be doing a Pole Dancing Contest. Maybe that was her Christian side. Better?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goose View Post
    its a broad and blanket statement to note that Muslims frown upon the use of alcohol and typically the women wear burkas?

    how insensitive of him!!!!
    Burkas are hardly "typical." In Western countries that have done actual research into their prevalence among the domestic Muslim populations, they've come up with fractions of a percent. Some predominantly-Muslim countries, like Iran, mandate some form of head-covering [[although that isn't a burka, a burka covers the whole body), and some, like Turkey, ban or restrict it.

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    It looks like her main supporter in that image is a pole.

    I don't think they're particularly religious.

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    Thank you for that clarification. Having worked in the Arab Muslim community for many years [[Dearborn) I rarely see a woman in public wearing a full burka. I do see many women in hajib which is a covering of the hair, the same woman may have on pants or even jeans, but many wear skirts or dresses.
    Quote Originally Posted by antongast View Post
    Burkas are hardly "typical." In Western countries that have done actual research into their prevalence among the domestic Muslim populations, they've come up with fractions of a percent. Some predominantly-Muslim countries, like Iran, mandate some form of head-covering [[although that isn't a burka, a burka covers the whole body), and some, like Turkey, ban or restrict it.

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    According to the article "the former Miss Michigan was born in Lebanon. She won the Miss USA Pageant in May 2010; her reign ended June 19."

    First, is anyone here truly dumb enough to believe all Lebanese are Muslim?

    Second, who cares what the pageant officials think? In the interest of pettiness, I suppose they could retro-actively strip her of the title but I doubt that means much in the real world.

    Quote Originally Posted by iheartthed View Post
    Was that really necessary?
    The original poster may be loathe to admit posting stupid and irrelevant items but the answer would be no, it was not necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gannon View Post
    How much of anything we say is necessary?
    Let me be the first to suggest you answer that for yourself.

    "Sincerely."

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    The reason why I mentioned her religion is that it is one of the most blatant parts of this story. If would be glaring if I ignored it...she is the Islamic princess who very publicly trumpeted her religion during and after her crowning with this title she so willingly waves about.

    You might've missed the news at the time.



    As for the burka, even in the original statement I made it only a part of the extreme reaction. Actually, I don't even want to imagine the most extreme reactions to this. In some areas of the world, she'd be stoned...for being stoned.



    I do not have any background on her public stance on driving while intoxicated, nor any previous behavior one way or the other. For those favoring one-strike [[or less) full-mandatory judgement policy, which I am not, they have enough data to convict in this one report alone.

    I said I think it is funny. If we keep an eye on this, we can see how even-handed justice truly is. My bet is she gets off on something minor.

    She won't even get the "Royal Oak" treatment...breathalyzer testing on 'holidays' for a meager $40 per visit...a cool $160 needed for an extended Thanksgiving weekend [[whether your culture celebrates it or not)! Or have to pay $1,000 up front per year for some unconstitutional and immoral 'driver responsibility fee...as the top requirement of your parole [[which costs the parolee more should it get extended for any reason, including not being able to afford the driver responsibility fee because they cannot transport their tools to work because they cannot get a driver's license, because they cannot afford the immoral and unconstitutional driver responsibility fee)?!


    Nah, she's going to lawyer-up...and the PR machine is already churning.

    <sigh>



    Gotta get to work.



    Cheers,

    John

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