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  1. Yep. Shocker. Poor service generates low...

    Yep. Shocker. Poor service generates low ridership.

    Extensions with dedicated right of way would help. But the fundamental problem of running in mixed traffic through downtown is baked in at this...
  2. Actually, he explained based on personal...

    Actually, he explained based on personal experience that convention planners take this into account and that Detroit has a poor answer. Which part of that are you disputing? Conventions don't...
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    Indeed, this is what people looking at the...

    Indeed, this is what people looking at the Hudson's site should keep in mind. Once steel starts going up, it goes fast!
  4. Agreed, though I think you're going too small. I...

    Agreed, though I think you're going too small. I would have expected something one click up like Austin or Minneapolis.
  5. Your last possibility is the most likely, but I'd...

    Your last possibility is the most likely, but I'd love to see 2, 3, or 4 happen.

    At a more granular level, I hope that whatever happens, they split the site up by creating at least one through...
  6. What does "$30 billion in tax revenues" mean?...

    What does "$30 billion in tax revenues" mean? Amazon's combined reported tax expenses over the past three years were $3.6 billion. New York is missing out on some taxes those employees would have...
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    No, this is very typical. I realize Detroit...

    No, this is very typical. I realize Detroit doesn't have many high-rises being constructed so people are easily duped by scare stories about how "Dan Gilbert is just pushing dirt around!" but...
  8. The fact that old world craftsmanship does not...

    The fact that old world craftsmanship does not imply historical significance was already indicated by the use of the word "or" rather than "and" in the post you replied to [[for the second time in 3...
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    Don't forget the Monroe blocks, too. We could...

    Don't forget the Monroe blocks, too. We could have a lot of cranes on the skyline soon!

    Has anyone totaled up the office square footage and new apartment units across Hudson's, 1CM, and Monroe...
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    Agree. Obviously it's not entirely unique, but...

    Agree. Obviously it's not entirely unique, but this design will stand out without appearing out of place. For me it calls to mind the Penobscot or other classic art deco step-back designs. Big...
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    Or maybe we should just pound the roads around...

    Or maybe we should just pound the roads around your house back into gravel. The vast majority of people in the state never use them, after all.
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    Thanks for all the photos!

    Thanks for all the photos!
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    Yeah, I'm sure Cox has no idea there's crime in...

    Yeah, I'm sure Cox has no idea there's crime in Detroit and has never dealt with such things in New Orleans.

    All you're showing is that you know nothing about Cox and that you think perpetuating...
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    Everything we've seen in terms of public plans...

    Everything we've seen in terms of public plans from Cox and his department shows that he's a top shelf planning official. Detroit is getting plans that are competitive with anything being done today...
  15. Sorry, but you're the one blithely assuming. This...

    Sorry, but you're the one blithely assuming. This entire thread was created in the context of Elon Musk's tunneling efforts. Given that, it is not at all "obvious" or "assured" that local transit...
  16. This is exactly right. Airport links mostly serve...

    This is exactly right. Airport links mostly serve the only people who go to the airport every day: the people who work at the airport. The fact that it would be nice five times a year for Bob at GM...
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    BRT is a poor substitute for actual rail, because...

    BRT is a poor substitute for actual rail, because it is much lower capacity and much less powerful as a driver of development patterns. And Detroit absolutely has the population [[in the metro region)...
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    The mindset that cities should (or even can)...

    The mindset that cities should [[or even can) build transit which will instantly generate huge ridership really has it backwards. In places that did not grow up around transit and haven't maintained...
  19. There was such a claim, but it was just a BS...

    There was such a claim, but it was just a BS excuse from Olympia in order to justify demolishing a historic building. They think Detroiters are stupid and have no idea that Madison Square Garden and...
  20. Well, that's kind of the point. It's now a year...

    Well, that's kind of the point. It's now a year later, and nothing has happened. The people who are skeptical are basing their opinions on what is happening. We can compare last year's announcement...
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    Forgive me for butting in to your conversation...

    Forgive me for butting in to your conversation but it's still a great and vital topic given decisions to be made re: MLS.



    LCA is by far the best-designed of the sports venues in urban terms...
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    Just take a bus during commute hours in pretty...

    Just take a bus during commute hours in pretty much any major city in the US and observe what proportion of people are doing something they could also do while driving. It's usually pretty low, at...
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    whynotboth.gif That's how other regions do it....

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    That's how other regions do it. Seattle, LA, etc. Package transportation together as one thing, since cars can't do what transit can [[serve high-density urban areas without...
  24. They also tried to say that it had to come down...

    They also tried to say that it had to come down because terrorism, i.e. because someone could fire into the arena from a tall building next to it.

    "The Ilitch's Olympia Development of Michigan...
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    Where will it drive its ass to? Since work hours...

    Where will it drive its ass to? Since work hours and rush hour will still exist, there won't be demand for all the cars used between 7:30 - 9 and 4:30 - 6 to go take someone else on a trip. It'll...
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