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  1. 48307 and Bartocktoo are proving that two wrongs...

    48307 and Bartocktoo are proving that two wrongs don’t make a right. Sheesh, what an exchange of misinformation.
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    Yes, in a perfect world one’s own abilities are...

    Yes, in a perfect world one’s own abilities are all that would matter. However, to argue that because you did it, so why can’t everyone else, is equally ridiculous—because it is extremely naive and...
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    Good article with some information related to...

    Good article with some information related to portions of this discussion:

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/education/2019/11/24/first-year-college-students-detroit-msu/4259083002/
  4. It goes both ways. A lot of people in the...

    It goes both ways. A lot of people in the neighborhoods need to get Downtown/Midtown, to the suburbs, and out of state to see a different way of life in order affect a culture change that will...
  5. This is equally absurd, both literally and...

    This is equally absurd, both literally and figuratively. To seriously argue that generational poverty, cultural norms, and a lifetime of learned behaviors can be instantly overcome/altered by a...
  6. Remember, there are forces in Detroit, from...

    Remember, there are forces in Detroit, from elites to criminal (and all types in between) — that do not want to see improvements in the city because they fear losing their way of life.
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    I was also surprised not to see Albion on this...

    I was also surprised not to see Albion on this list.
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    Based on your numbers, it would seem to be more...

    Based on your numbers, it would seem to be more accurate to say that the average student at MSU would be similar to the high end student at WSU. Or the high end student at MSU is similar to the lower...
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    You have some serious character issues for...

    You have some serious character issues for wanting to deliberately spread false information.
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    “In Michigan, eight colleges and universities are...

    “In Michigan, eight colleges and universities are considered selective: Calvin, Hillsdale, Hope and Kalamazoo colleges; Kettering, Michigan State, Michigan Tech universities and UM-Ann Arbor.”
    ...
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    The incorrect information about colleges is...

    The incorrect information about colleges is literally within the original post.

    Also, the fact that this discussion is about undergraduate school was clearly stated but you’re pretending...
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    My point is not at all similar to Jason’s....

    My point is not at all similar to Jason’s. Likewise, I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make either regarding the original topic.
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    UofM/Stanford/MIT are Tier 1 universities. MSU is...

    UofM/Stanford/MIT are Tier 1 universities. MSU is Tier 2. WSU/EMU are Tier 4. This is for undergrad ranking only, as WSU has a well-regarded Tier 2 law school.

    A “normal” university is Tier 3 or...
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    So you’re trying to claim that 50% of MSU...

    So you’re trying to claim that 50% of MSU students had SAT scores 30 points below the school’s 75th percentile? Also, no one said anything about UofM.
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    I also have experience with secondary schools and...

    I also have experience with secondary schools and if you really believe that MSU is comparable to EMU/WSU, or that it’s easier to get into MSU than EMU/WSU, then you’re completely out of your...
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    This isn't accurate. MSU is nowhere near the same...

    This isn't accurate. MSU is nowhere near the same tier as the other schools you mentioned. It’s actually moderately difficult to get into and the “safety school” to the Ivy-like Michigan. It’s been...
  17. Likewise, read my response again ABD. The problem...

    Likewise, read my response again ABD. The problem goes far beyond only lack of enforcement. To think that traffic enforcement is the only reason that this problem doesn't exist in Bloomfield is...
  18. This is a completely insane claim and part of the...

    This is a completely insane claim and part of the blame someone and something else problem. I’m in both areas daily and I’ve never seen anything remotely similar to the wreckless driving in areas...
  19. Believe it or not but Detroiters attend Brother...

    Believe it or not but Detroiters attend Brother Rice and work at United Shore.
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    "Now about 95% of the site is in Pontiac with the...

    "Now about 95% of the site is in Pontiac with the rest in Bloomfield Township."

    https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/2019/05/02/retail-housing-village-at-bloomfield/3638035002/
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    Behind the scenes (and not-so-behind-scenes too),...

    Behind the scenes (and not-so-behind-scenes too), the most I’ve ever seen the “screw you, I’ve got mine” attitude was from so-called elite Detroit Democrats.
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    I wouldn’t read too much into Ross making a...

    I wouldn’t read too much into Ross making a nominal investment in The Platform. After all, he is related to Peter Cummings. Ross has stated both publicly as well as privately that he “just doesn’t...
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    Ross stated at the Detroit Homecoming two years...

    Ross stated at the Detroit Homecoming two years ago that he will not be significantly involved in the Detroit development scene.
  24. Unfortunately, many of them are in positions of...

    Unfortunately, many of them are in positions of power and influence, therefore they're unavoidable.
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    At least your analysis of top public schools is...

    At least your analysis of top public schools is as bad as your analysis of top private schools.

    DPS has multiple high schools, West Bloomfield has one and Farmington has two. To try to make the...
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