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    What was this tall building?

    This picture is looking south on Third from Willis in the 1970s:

    http://www.detroityes.com/mb/attachment.php?attachmentid=29539&stc=1

    Larger version here:...
  2. The RTA is going to put something on the ballot...

    The RTA is going to put something on the ballot this fall [[millage, auto registration hike, or something else). Vote yes and there's your funding.

    [[Although I completely understand wanting to...
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    If the construction is high quality, then great....

    If the construction is high quality, then great. I don't know either way. I figured Swingline knew something I didn't.
  4. It wasn't a general statement. I know demolition...

    It wasn't a general statement. I know demolition in Detroit has pretty much always resulted in an empty lot/parking lot for some period of time. But in this case you have a developer saying "I want...
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    I agree with this and hope they opt for higher...

    I agree with this and hope they opt for higher quality construction, even if the size of the building stays the same. I think there's a chance they will, as the market has improved since they first...
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    Agree. The developer sees a market for 200 units...

    Agree. The developer sees a market for 200 units on this site, and they have a large footprint to work with. They could either build them in a 6-story building that covers the entire site, or they...
  7. It seems pretty clear to me at this point that...

    It seems pretty clear to me at this point that the 2-story building immediately south of the Book Tower [[which Gilbert owns, not Karp) will be replaced by a new Book Tower parking garage. I really...
  8. That would be cool. Also a cool possibility -...

    That would be cool. Also a cool possibility - something that connects to the Farwell Building, which is right behind it.
  9. Oh oops. Ok, that makes sense. 1242 is the one...

    Oh oops. Ok, that makes sense. 1242 is the one next to the Stevens Building, not the Book Building.

    In that case, I don't think Karp is shopping anything. And I am very curious what his plan for...
  10. Not for the "Lollipop Girl" building and adjacent...

    Not for the "Lollipop Girl" building and adjacent parking lot. Pretty clear he has real plans for those.

    But I do think he might shop the smaller building north of State Street [[adjacent to the...
  11. The parking problem seems to be rooted in...

    The parking problem seems to be rooted in Ilitch's lots being closed on non game days. He owns a huge swath of vacant land for parking and won't even let people park there!
  12. Agree, definitely not a loss. The business is...

    Agree, definitely not a loss. The business is growing [[hiring 20 new people), staying in Detroit, and occupying a vacant space.

    I also agree that the headline is misleading - it sounds like there...
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    I'm not sure the Statler project is even delayed....

    I'm not sure the Statler project is even delayed.

    When it was announced way back in Spring 2014, the timeline was "construction in 2016":...
  14. Yes and no. Downtown Detroit retail declined for...

    Yes and no. Downtown Detroit retail declined for a number of reasons, but cutting off automobile traffic from driving past [[and parking in front of) the storefronts certainly didn't help. If people...
  15. Interesting. Of course, by the time the picture I...

    Interesting. Of course, by the time the picture I posted was taken, Hudson's was vacant, the Cadillac Center idea was dead, Compuware was still years away, and the awkward little pedestrian "plaza"...
  16. Was Gratiot closed at Woodward in the 80s/90s?

    This picture:

    http://www.detroityes.com/mb/attachment.php?attachmentid=29054&stc=1

    seems to show a sidewalk along Woodward running continuously across Gratiot, blocking Gratiot traffic from...
  17. I realize my original post was probably TL,DR,...

    I realize my original post was probably TL,DR, for a lot of people, but this was actually my point. It appears that we are in the early stages of filling our vacant lots [[at least the high-profile...
  18. The Z-Lot? I mean, it's only a parking garage,...

    The Z-Lot? I mean, it's only a parking garage, but he did build it.

    Also he built a casino in Cleveland.

    And that's just taking your statement literally, and not including the many renovations...
  19. I specifically listed the major vacant structures...

    I specifically listed the major vacant structures in my original post. I also said we're 10 years out from seeing any new height because we need to fill buildings like the Fisher and Penobscot [[and...
  20. 8 and 9 would help fill the gap between the Ren...

    8 and 9 would help fill the gap between the Ren Cen and the rest of the skyline, as viewed from the river. 10 I hadn't thought of, but I like.

    There are several other surface lots in Bricktown,...
  21. Taller Buildings - When and where will we see them?

    There's some disappointment that Gilbert's development on the Hudson's site probably won't be much taller than the surrounding buildings. Rather than hijack that thread, I thought I'd start a new one...
  22. In real life, Indy grew because it became the...

    In real life, Indy grew because it became the meeting point of a bunch of interstates [[65,69,70, and 74). Can you imagine the impact of that + the auto industry+flat land and no major water bodies in...
  23. Agree with the general consensus. Without the...

    Agree with the general consensus. Without the auto industry, we wouldn't have the gorgeous buildings, the international name recognition, the cool brand, or the regional wealth. We might not have all...
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    Interesting find! I don't know why they would do...

    Interesting find! I don't know why they would do that, though. Renovate the beautiful Vinton Building and keep its exterior in tact, then build the other units somewhere else.
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    All other considerations aside, I actually really...

    All other considerations aside, I actually really like how that addresses Woodward with a big glass area [[presumably for retail?). It's not the traditional storefronts-in-a-line, but I think it could...
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