I am trying to get and old phone number for Matthew Boucher who lived in Detroit just off Dickerson and Promenade. Can anyone help?
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I am trying to get and old phone number for Matthew Boucher who lived in Detroit just off Dickerson and Promenade. Can anyone help?
Most city directories are on-line now. Hard copies can be found at the Burton Library on the first floor of the Main Library.
Hmm...no residential phone number listed.
The 1967 Polk's directory lists him at 13001 Promenade - northeast corner of Dickerson - and the owner of Mickey's Market at 7752 E Forest. Phone number for the market was WA2-9010.
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Promenade,vicinity of Dickerson [[misspelled Kickerson):
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The 1961 white pages has no residential listing at all; just a listing for the market. Makes me think he didn't have a phone at that time or chose to have an unlisted number.
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Thanks for all your help. Maybe the home phone was unlisted. Thanks Again I really appreciated you finding this so quickly for me.
Do you have a listing for Love at 14063 E State Fair?
Isn't that the old "haunted house"?Quote:
Originally Posted by craigk
Shown vacant in '67. Have a first name? There's about 80 entries for last name Love.Quote:
Originally Posted by craigk
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Sorry, can't get that photo to load vertically.
Name could have been Edna, Alma, or Leona
Not finding anyone with that name in either the 1961 phone book or the 1967 Polk's directory. A scan of all the Loves in both doesn't show any on State Fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by craigk
Try the last name Daniel
I remember my grandmothers party line in Detroit with another old lady's raspy breathing on line listening in. No encryption back then.
https://www.detroityes.com/mb/attach...1&d=1493140526
And Mickey Shorr Seat Covers Inc., had Quadraphonic seat covers back in the day? Way ahead of his time!!!
Went with the under dash 45 players and reverb. Hot stuff back then.
:cool::cool::cool: "CKLW" the motor city. [[Not). Now.
Are you talking about the only large, farmhouse type place that was on the north side of State Fair west of Anvil?Quote:
Originally Posted by craigk
There was a family named Daniel living there in 1930 with 3 daughters named Alma, Leona and Esther. Attachment 35346
The father passed away in 1944; I haven't been able to find a census record or phone directory number yet
Yes, the older sister was Edna. My brother and I were in that house in the 50's and 60's. Everyone referred to the lady living there as "Old Lady Love". And a lot of people harassed her calling it a haunted house. She did tell us some stories about family being buried there. Don't see any records for those years.
1961: Christine Daniel
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Used to drive by there all the time with my parents on the way to my sister's house on Manning and Joann during the era you mention above. I think kids called it haunted because we never saw anyone outside and the house was so different than all the other houses around it. Lived about a mile and 1/2 from it so never walked around that area. It was just old looking so = haunted.
I think Christine was the mother; she would have been in her 80's in '61
No Alma, Edna, Leona, or Christine in the '67 Polk's [[I only have the east side volume). And I don't know why Polk didn't show the Anvil cross street. I find lots of mistakes in it. They listed Reno as a cross street twice, once in the correct location and once with Hoyt.
I think Christine passed away in 1948 according to records. We called the lady that lived there Mrs Love. I have a friend who kept the phone listed in her Mothers name after she died.
Yes, she did pass in 1948.
Here's part of Edna's marriage license to Mr Love. They were living in Saline, MI in 1940 census
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Just so I follow correctly...
Edward & Christine Daniel lived on E State Fair in 1930
One of their daughters - Esther, who goes by Edna - married Thomas Love in 1928 in Washtenaw County, but she [[they?) is still living on State Fair in 1930.
Her parents, Edward and Christine, passed in 1944 and 1948.
Edna continues to live there into the 1960s, by her married name Love, but uses her mother's name, Christine Daniel, for the phone listing?
The house is vacant by 1967.
Atlas plats for the late 1890s, early 1900s show the land in that area owned by an H. Daniels and the road that would become State Fair has 3 houses along the north side, one in the approximate location of this address.
I drove past today. The lot certainly looks ancient and...haunted. Higher ground, overgrown with ratty pines or cedars. I could picture a dilapidated farm house there. It clearly stands out in older aerial photos, and the area certainly developed quickly between 1949 and 1952:
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I'm sure these types of house were in most every town across the country in the 40s, 50s and 60s, having been built decades earlier, but falling into disrepair as the families aged.
But you have to wonder if they weren't in the back of someone's mind when they conceived the notion of families with names like Addams or Munster. [[Yes, I know the comic strip goes back much farther, just a thought exercise.)
Edna and Esther were sisters, not the same. But you've got the rest correct as far as I can tellQuote:
Originally Posted by MikeM
Ok, I just see daughters Alma, Leona, and Esther listed in your census snapshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcole
Edna was quite a bit older. She was 7 in the 1910 census and married by the 1930 that I posted.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM
Ok, that makes sense. So at some point, she moves back to her parent's house on State Fair.
Some time after 1940 because she was still in Saline on the 1940 census. Her father died in 44 and mother in 48; I can't find a death or divorce record for her husband, so I don't know if he went with her or not
Thanks for finding all of that info. Edna had a daughter also named Edna born 1930 and a son Thomas in 1933. So that clears up the name question. It was no ordinary house, 3 story and had a roofed cement porch across the front. Wooden staircase, wide wood casings.
I remember the house during the 60's when we drove past it weekly on my way to see my older sister. It was so different than the little bungalows around it that it still stands out in my memory
I love finding those historical anomalies around town.
Two aerial photos from 1967 and 1981. The house was razed sometime between.
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As I mentioned earlier, around the turn of the century, the land was owned by someone with the last name of Daniels. Coincidence or ancestor with a slight name change? From a 1904 atlas. Probably the house in question at the bottom center of the plot.
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Searching for Edna's father, Edward C Daniel, I see him listed in the 1915 phone book nearby, in Halfway [[Eastpointe).
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And in 1918 at an address I can't make sense of. Would it be the name of an apartment building? The Lincoln phone exchange was based at a central office on Van Dyke just north of Gratiot.
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And in 1929 on State Fair:
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Christine's listing in the 1947 phone book, since Edward had already passed a few years earlier.
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Edward's father's name was Henry according to Edward and Christine's wedding cert.
Also in 1900 Edward was still at home with Henry and family in Gratiot Twp, which I believe encompassed most of the far NE side and suburbs.
Hmm. That was definitely Gratiot Twp at the time. And his name starts with H. Maybe father's and/or grandfather's farm?
Henry[[Heinrich) was born in Germany in 1827 so I would guess it was his farm purchased after he moved here.
Looking for number of Herman Mack 1590 Hurlbut, started with "Valley"
Have you got a year? I come up with the 1940 census but no directories.
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Originally Posted by Christine Huebner
VAlley2-8127 in the 1961 phone book.Quote:
Originally Posted by Christine Huebner
Trying to find Francis "Frank" Andreski family living in the Detroit area in the mid 60's. I'm looking for what high school their oldest, Frank L Andreski Jr. went to. Born 1947 so probably graduated 1964 or 1965?? Thanks for help with the address.
Fisher Rd near Gratiot. I found this in the 1920 census. It was a farm in Gratiot Twp.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM
Thanks jcole, makes sense now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcole
Sorry I missed this.Quote:
Originally Posted by lindym
If he lived on the eastside, there was a Frank [[& Lorraine) Andreski, machine operator at Wire & Iron Products, living at 2142 Adele Street, which was two streets north of Harper, running between St Aubin and Chene. Now long gone with the Poletown project. Not sure which school district that would put him in.
Might have been the old Northeastern High School at Warren & Grandy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeM
So happy to hear this. Do they have phone books from multiple years? That would be great. Phone books are a great historical record few people appreciate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Former_Detroiter
I've been looking for old Detroit phone books and haven't been able to find them.