WTF? Where's The Five-0? A Scary Night In Real Detroit

That's one heck of a comeback Detroit!

"One gets the sinking feeling the so-called Detroit Comeback may have hit its ceiling. GM closing factories. Multiple federal grand juries convened over public corruption. Rumors of compromising mayoral videos and then the mayor's bizarre and hastily called press conference this week to cry that he is being extorted. The mayor called the police to complain. And the police answered.

'It doesn't always work like that in the other Detroit, where the police can't be found and homicide detectives work bankers' hours.

http://www.deadlinedetroit.com/artic...n_real_detroit

Is there anybody more useless then Charlie Leduff?

For real Charlie? One incident that's all you could come up with? Even if Detroit gained population Charlie would put a negative spin on it. Good try though.

This guy was too scummy for Fox news even.

Charlie Leduff is a total hack, lmfao. :cool:

Scummy and a hack Leduff is. No argument there.

But, and a really big one, the problem is fucking real and if it takes the likes of Charlie to shine a light on it, then so be it. I have had more than enough of this is “the preferred media” in the last couple years to last the rest of my life.

Washington and Lansing have screwed places like Detroit over long enough with a fixed deck that doesn’t include the correct tools to fix the problem.

Stopping the senseless, stupid, extremely expensive loss of life and violence in Detroit is the most important thing that needs to be done in the city, with no close second. Money, resources and more skilled, educated and highly trained well paid personel have to be brought to the fight.

The cost of not doing enough is already well known here. The price is too fucking high in blood and money long term.

Interesting [[and sad) story, but it seems like quite a reach to find any relation between what he mentioned in the first paragraph and in the rest of his story.

He really seems to have an issue with Duggan - a recurring theme of his. I suppose time will tell if there's anything to it.

I have to disagree a bit. Nobody is saying Detroit doesn't have problems. Hell, nobody is saying Detroit doesn't have huge problems. He didn't shine a light on anything we didn't already know and to sit here and act like Duggan and the current counsel isn't he best in decades[[except Leland) is just a joke. The hardest thing to change in Detroit is the culture of the people in the neighborhoods. I don't see the point of bashing people living in the Midtoen or BE or West Village or whatever.

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Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit

Scummy and a hack Leduff is. No argument there.

But, and a really big one, the problem is fucking real and if it takes the likes of Charlie to shine a light on it, then so be it. I have had more than enough of this is “the preferred media” in the last couple years to last the rest of my life.

Washington and Lansing have screwed places like Detroit over long enough with a fixed deck that doesn’t include the correct tools to fix the problem.

Stopping the senseless, stupid, extremely expensive loss of life and violence in Detroit is the most important thing that needs to be done in the city, with no close second. Money, resources and more skilled, educated and highly trained well paid personel have to be brought to the fight.

The cost of not doing enough is already well known here. The price is too fucking high in blood and money long term.

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Agreed.

What the article highlights is the dysfunction that still permeates in Detroit that's being completely glossed over by boosters as well as how calloused people have become about it all. An innocent man who shouldn't have to be a prisoner in their home was going out to run an errand had his brains blown out and the reactions?

"It happens every day."

"This is how it is."

"LOL! Charlie suckz!"

It just proves the city willl never truly be revived when that type of mindset and way of operating is accepted as normal. It is sad, indeed.

Yeah, because 50 years of destroying a city and it can all be reversed in 6 years. No one is saying the city is perfect, but it is getting better and the numbers show it's getting better. Leduff is a joke and should be taken as seriously as Dr.Phil

Also this whole Fake Detroit vs. Real Detroit shit needs to stop. Especially from a suburban [[at once expat) hack

Nobody is saying anything about what happened to the poor guy, R.I.P. but to say his brains hanging out, potential suspects peeping over the brick wall, the responders hiding for their lives behind the truck makes me think about the hack job instead of taking the story serious. Point is you don't have to go that far to sell the story. What does the mayor and his potential problem have to do with response to this call. That's why I can't take anything he says or writes serious.

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Originally Posted by Seven&wyo

Yeah, because 50 years of destroying a city and it can all be reversed in 6 years. No one is saying the city is perfect, but it is getting better and the numbers show it's getting better. Leduff is a joke and should be taken as seriously as Dr.Phil

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This here is a big obstacle to improving Detroit. The "numbers" are still getting worse, but the boosters don't wanna here it. Detroit is still losing population and tax base, it's still among the poorest cities, crime is still sky-high, the city has never been emptier, etc. The major positives are A. The pace of decline has slowed and B. There appears to be marginally more competent leadership.

But if you talk to a typical booster, you'll come away thinking the city is booming or something, a Midwestern Dubai, instead of 70% bombed-out. If you point out inconvenient facts like downtown is half-owned by one guy, a subprime mortgage king [[what could possibly go wrong?), the core is still sparse and quiet absent big events, nothing is built absent big subsidies/tons of parking, and everyone who can get out of the neighborhoods still does so, you're gonna spark some righteous indignation.

In most of Detroit, most of the time, it's never been worse. Yeah, the dining scene downtown is better, and there are some new arenas, and the few renaming nice older buildings that weren't demolished are being renovated.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

This here is a big obstacle to improving Detroit. The "numbers" are still getting worse, but the boosters don't wanna here it. Detroit is still losing population and tax base, it's still among the poorest cities, crime is still sky-high, the city has never been emptier, etc. The major positives are A. The pace of decline has slowed and B. There appears to be marginally more competent leadership.

But if you talk to a typical booster, you'll come away thinking the city is booming or something, a Midwestern Dubai, instead of 70% bombed-out. If you point out inconvenient facts like downtown is half-owned by one guy, a subprime mortgage king [[what could possibly go wrong?), the core is still sparse and quiet absent big events, nothing is built absent big subsidies/tons of parking, and everyone who can get out of the neighborhoods still does so, you're gonna spark some righteous indignation.

In most of Detroit, most of the time, it's never been worse. Yeah, the dining scene downtown is better, and there are some new arenas, and the few renaming nice older buildings that weren't demolished are being renovated.

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^^^Probably one of the few times Bham hits the nail on the head.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

This here is a big obstacle to improving Detroit. The "numbers" are still getting worse, but the boosters don't wanna here it. Detroit is still losing population and tax base, it's still among the poorest cities, crime is still sky-high, the city has never been emptier, etc. The major positives are A. The pace of decline has slowed and B. There appears to be marginally more competent leadership.

But if you talk to a typical booster, you'll come away thinking the city is booming or something, a Midwestern Dubai, instead of 70% bombed-out. If you point out inconvenient facts like downtown is half-owned by one guy, a subprime mortgage king [[what could possibly go wrong?), the core is still sparse and quiet absent big events, nothing is built absent big subsidies/tons of parking, and everyone who can get out of the neighborhoods still does so, you're gonna spark some righteous indignation.

In most of Detroit, most of the time, it's never been worse. Yeah, the dining scene downtown is better, and there are some new arenas, and the few renaming nice older buildings that weren't demolished are being renovated.

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Jaw on the floor.

LeDuff's focus on crime is absolutely sound. If you look closely at DPD, there are serious problems remaining - morale, organization, competency and a Chief who intimidates any dissenters. This isn't hyperbole, this is one of the most violent cities in the country with a Police force lacking urgency and direction. If this economy dips, then all of Detroit will have to focus on crime. Having said that, Detroit has made incredible strides in most other departments [[save DWSD) internally under this Mayor. This isn't a Detroit is coming back, Detroit isn't coming back story. I think LeDuff's piece is about DPD and it needs to be taken seriously.

Somebody gets his brains blown in a vehicle on a major street [[ or non major street ) and his passenger is covered in blood it would be nice to have a timely response from the DPD. Having DFD there practically begging for a DPD car doesn’t sound too good on that recording. I know they’re busy with seat belt violations and rousting hookers but they should be able to tear themselves away from that stuff for a guy with his head shot off.

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I know they’re busy with seat belt violations and rousting hookers but they should be able to tear themselves away from that stuff for a guy with his head shot off.

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You forgot escorting tourists back and forth to the coliseums.

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Originally Posted by Bham1982

This here is a big obstacle to improving Detroit. The "numbers" are still getting worse, but the boosters don't wanna here it. Detroit is still losing population and tax base, it's still among the poorest cities, crime is still sky-high, the city has never been emptier, etc. The major positives are A. The pace of decline has slowed and B. There appears to be marginally more competent leadership.

But if you talk to a typical booster, you'll come away thinking the city is booming or something, a Midwestern Dubai, instead of 70% bombed-out. If you point out inconvenient facts like downtown is half-owned by one guy, a subprime mortgage king [[what could possibly go wrong?), the core is still sparse and quiet absent big events, nothing is built absent big subsidies/tons of parking, and everyone who can get out of the neighborhoods still does so, you're gonna spark some righteous indignation.

In most of Detroit, most of the time, it's never been worse. Yeah, the dining scene downtown is better, and there are some new arenas, and the few renaming nice older buildings that weren't demolished are being renovated.

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I have lived downtown since 1990, always been actively involved in it. I have alot of experience with it. With all its inadequecies, no matter how you want to paint it or degrade it, the downtown , midtown cores have never been close to being this vibrant and active, it isnt just a flurry nor by any means quiet outside of big events. I live here...Its a very active area all week long. I work, walk, run and socialize every day of the week. One would have to be blind not to notice if you have a reference point to the last 25 years living here. When Im in Cleveland part time living downtown for work, we are past them now, and very comparable to Pittsburgh, Indy and Columbus, which Im in often, Nothing to be embarrased about now here.

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Originally Posted by DetBill

I have lived downtown since 1990, always been actively involved in it. I have alot of experience with it. With all its inadequecies, no matter how you want to paint it or degrade it, the downtown , midtown cores have never been close to being this vibrant and active, it isnt just a flurry nor by any means quiet outside of big events. I live here...Its a very active area all week long. I work, walk, run and socialize every day of the week. One would have to be blind not to notice if you have a reference point to the last 25 years living here. When Im in Cleveland part time living downtown for work, we are past them now, and very comparable to Pittsburgh, Indy and Columbus, which Im in often, Nothing to be embarrased about now here.

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I agree with you, but it is clear that to a large extent people see what they want to see, and Detroit still has plenty of negatives that people can legitimately dwell upon. Neither the good nor the bad is the whole story.

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Originally Posted by DetBill

I have lived downtown since 1990, always been actively involved in it. I have alot of experience with it. With all its inadequecies, no matter how you want to paint it or degrade it, the downtown , midtown cores have never been close to being this vibrant and active,

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Yeah, so spend a month in the Dexter/Davison or Gratiot/Conner areas and tell us how vibrant they are.

And learn that 'alot' is not a word.