In the mean time: What China May Do....

Chinese paper says China should stay neutral if North Korea attacks first... [but not if we attack first!]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-n...-idUSKBN1AR005

From article:

"China should also make clear that if North Korea launches missiles that threaten U.S. soil first and the U.S. retaliates, China will stay neutral," it added.

"If the U.S. and South Korea carry out strikes and try to overthrow the North Korean regime and change the political pattern of the Korean Peninsula, China will prevent them from doing so."

China has long worried that any conflict on the Korean peninsula, or a repeat of the 1950-53 Korean war, could unleash a wave of destabilizing refugees into its northeast, and could end up with a reunified county allied with the United States.

North Korea is a useful buffer state for China between it and U.S. forces based in South Korea, and also across the sea in Japan.

Obama's foreign policies never stop giving. Obama said that he transitioned power in Ukraine. Individuals from Ukraine have since donated more money to the Clinton Foundation than individuals of any other country. The NY Times is reporting that N. Korea's long range missiles have become more accurate because N. Korea has probably been purchasing missile engines from Ukraine. Transitioning power to the oligarchs, some say fascist oligarchs in Ukraine, seems to have given N. Korea the missile platforms it needed to deliver nukes to the US. The larger missiles are capable of carrying 10 warheads each. The new Ukrainian President denies this and the article says the Ukraine government might not know this happened.

We have long range missles,being next to a opposing border really has no meaning like it did before.

Like they are saying though,the refugees would be the biggest issue.

At the end of the day they are not really authorized to dictate to the United States even more so because they have been trying Japan and India doing the exact same thing.

They are also threatening the Philippines,at times telling Chinese citizens there to stay indoors.

Their military is more land based verses sea,so us being a border threat is minimum at best.

I still think Korea is a trigger and Kims instability is being played by China and Russia.

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Originally Posted by oladub

Obama's foreign policies never stop giving. Obama said that he transitioned power in Ukraine. Individuals from Ukraine have since donated more money to the Clinton Foundation than individuals of any other country. The NY Times is reporting that N. Korea's long range missiles have become more accurate because N. Korea has probably been purchasing missile engines from Ukraine. Transitioning power to the oligarchs, some say fascist oligarchs in Ukraine, seems to have given N. Korea the missile platforms it needed to deliver nukes to the US. The larger missiles are capable of carrying 10 warheads each. The new Ukrainian President denies this and the article says the Ukraine government might not know this happened.

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Their KN4 can reach our west coast,KN6 can reach down the center of the country west.They are getting help from somewhere and when Russia collapsed and pulled out of territories in 1994 there was a lot of technology "advailable"
even outdated by today's standards still holds power.

President Obamas reward of $4 billion for not launching at that time was a nice little bump for their technology department.

That kind of cash buys a few toys.

^^^ It's all be part of the kick the can policies that have gone forth re. North Korea with a few nice 'gifts' thrown in for measure!

Here is what some might consider a conspiracy theory.

The US navy has now had 4 collisions with other ships in a short period of time in the region.

Never in the history of the navy has this happened.

Russia has devolved the technology of spoofing GPS tracking,where they take over the GPS signal so you are on screen,somewhere you are not.

If the sailors are useing the GPS navigation only to maintain course through the ships computer it can be altered from an outside source.

So now China is useing that to say,because of the multiple accidents in the South China Sea,the US Navy now poses an danger to shipping.

That is setting up for the removal of the US navy in the South China Sea and gives China sea power over Japan and the Philippines.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...video-GPSSPOOF

Reports of satellite navigation problems in the Black Sea suggest that Russia may be testing a new system for spoofing GPS, New Scientist has learned.

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Originally Posted by Richard

Here is what some might consider a conspiracy theory.

The US navy has now had 4 collisions with other ships in a short period of time in the region.

Never in the history of the navy has this happened.

Russia has devolved the technology of spoofing GPS tracking,where they take over the GPS signal so you are on screen,somewhere you are not.

If the sailors are useing the GPS navigation only to maintain course through the ships computer it can be altered from an outside source.

So now China is useing that to say,because of the multiple accidents in the South China Sea,the US Navy now poses an danger to shipping.

That is setting up for the removal of the US navy in the South China Sea and gives China sea power over Japan and the Philippines.

https://www.newscientist.com/article...video-GPSSPOOF

Reports of satellite navigation problems in the Black Sea suggest that Russia may be testing a new system for spoofing GPS, New Scientist has learned.

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Don't get all worked up.
China's gunboat diplomacy is bound to be something like their Great Wall Automotive group swallying Fiat/Chrysler.

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Originally Posted by canuck

Don't get all worked up.
China's gunboat diplomacy is bound to be something like their Great Wall Automotive group swallying Fiat/Chrysler.

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They are amusing at best,in the last 3 monthes they have threatened war against Australia,India,England,Japan,Philippines,Indonesi a and pretty much everybody else in the Pacific.

With their two aircraft carrier navy.

Here is a transcript of the cockpit recordings with a US spy plane,it did not go as planned with them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OaKbZW0pqkM