No mention of the Gateway store.
http://detnews.com/article/20110314/...odel-10-stores
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No mention of the Gateway store.
http://detnews.com/article/20110314/...odel-10-stores
Why would they mention the Gateway store in a story about remodeling 10 stores that are nearly 10 years old?
Just a hunch, but maybe because the article also mentioned two brand new stores they are building in Chicago and Stevensville.
I thought it was kinda of ironic that Meijer showed up at Detroit's Winter Blast Festival, but doesn't have a store in the city limits.
Maybe they're hipsters?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrushStart
Support meijer fk wal-crap
Stores like Walmart and Meijer don't usually have stores in an urban setting.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrushStart
Most of Detroit isn't all that "urban."Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian1979
They don't want the items walking out with out payment for themQuote:
Originally Posted by BrushStart
Not having a store in Detroit stops that from happening?Quote:
Originally Posted by GUSHI
Walmart has been fighting for years to be allowed to open a store in New York City.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian1979
Is the Gateway project even still happening?
Whydo you think no big box realtors will open a store in Detroit. 800,000 people and they have to go to the burbs to shop. I don't agree with it but its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartthed
Looks like it might be. They're moving dirt around, but they have been doing that for a while. I'd like to see some footings poured, or, hammers swinging and the place getting roughed in.Quote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
Meijers built that store in Rochester Hills pretty quick. That Woodward Ave / State Fair location sure doesn't seem to be on the same fast track.
I doubt NYC ever opens a Walmart, the only place in NYC I could picture a Walmart is Staten Island.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartthed
They will most likely put their first store in Brooklyn if the city allows them to open.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian1979
Walmart also plans to open 4 stores in D.C. using its smaller format: http://www.reuters.com/article/2010/...29463820101118
The compromise for Wal-Marts have been 10,000 square foot stores in cities. That's less than the size of a Walgreens and CVS.
Where Meijers goes, others follow. That's evident all over the state. The City of Detroit needs to work out a deal with Meijers that doesn't rely on a third party developer.
Wow I don't know where in Brooklyn they'd be able to construct a Walmart. Brooklyn has close to 3 million people in an area half the size of the city of Detroit.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartthed
There is plenty of room for a Walmart. Brooklyn has a Costco, Home Depot, Lowe's, Target, Sears, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian1979
It's not going to get done anytime soon. The closest Walmart to NYC is the one in Valley Stream, the one that had the tragedy on Black Friday a few years back.
Meijer being cautious about Gateway isn't a surprise. They've been cautious all across the state during the recession, seriously pulling back putting in new stores too soon.
Urban Wal-Marts considered in New York and DC
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=186984
http://beyonddc.com/log/wp-content/u.../11/hst500.jpg
You're going to call me a hipster for this I'm sure... but I prefer Detroit without the big boxes. I like going to the market on Sundays, I like shopping at Honey Bee, I like stopping by Kims, and I like shopping in Hamtramck. So they don't sell Fruit Rollups, oh well.
No it doesn't make you one. But major props to your shopping habits, wish more people could do the sameQuote:
Originally Posted by Marc
Brooklyn also has a middle class tax base that can support those stores.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartthed
Walmart has a store in Baltimore also.
The answer to that question is the same as it has been for around the last six years:Quote:
Originally Posted by 313WX
Yes, it's going to open up next year.
From the Free Press, last week...
Did the plans change? Either way, what was already a project where things were going to have to be lined up perfectly to give it any chance, it seems as if Snyder's tax changes may be the nail in the coffin.Quote:
The other four projects in danger of stalling without the tax credits are the planned renovations of the vacant David Whitney Building on Woodward near Grand Circus Park and several city-owned structures in the Capitol Park district downtown; the Shoppes at Gateway project at Woodward and 8 Mile near the State Fairgrounds site, and plans by Meijer and other retailers to build a shopping center on the grounds of the old Redford High School in northwest Detroit.
So does Detroit.Quote:
Originally Posted by softailrider
if the meijer deal does not come through it will set a bad precedent.. however-- when it comes to encouraging "independent" retail, what are the options on "one stop shops" that have the things that a meijer, wal-mart, k-mart, etc., has, or by default how do you help bring about a string of independent places that separately sell appliances, clothing, yard-care items, furniture, etc. at competitive prices?
Those major retailers mentioned don't seem to share your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartthed
Yeah, mine and Home Depot's:Quote:
Originally Posted by softailrider
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As other national retailers such as Kmart and Kroger have been pulling out of the city in recent years, Home Depot has been quietly making a tidy profit at its lone Detroit store.
Atlanta-based Home Depot Inc. celebrated its fifth anniversary in the city last March at a former Kmart location at 7 Mile and Meyers.
The 139,000-square-foot store is the most profitable in its 100-store region that includes Michigan, Toledo and parts of Illinois and Indiana, said Jen King, senior manager of public relations for Home Depot's northern division.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=171627
Must be all the plywood they are selling for abandoned houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by iheartthed
j/k
Does that location have a big rental center? I noticed at most Home Depot's located in or near downtowns of major cities nearly half of the store is dedicated to tool rental.
I have never been into that particular Home Depot. But the urban Home Depots that I have been to in Manhattan and the Bronx seemed to carry the standard Home Depot stuff. The only difference I noticed is that those locations carried home cleaning products that I don't recall seeing at any Home Depot I have shopped at in suburban Detroit.Quote:
Originally Posted by wolverine
HA!Quote:
Originally Posted by rjk
I love it when someone interjects a dose of reality around here
This topic always grows tiresome to me, because it almost always starts with "Where do you go shopping though?" I'll admit, we shop more than our fair share at the Meijer in Allen Park. While I enjoy shopping Eastern Market, time does not always permit.
I grew up with Meijer, it's a Michigan based company, and in my opinion, it's the best big box retailer out there. If they built a Meijer at Gateway, I'd still go to the one in Allen Park. From downtown Detroit, you're looking at a 10 minute commute to Allen Park, where as 8 mile would likely be closer to 15 minutes. Commute aside, I have Home Depot, Lowe's, Best Buy, Barnes and Noble, Petco, Staples, Target, Bed Bath Beyond [[yeah, I said it), dozens of smaller stores, and dozens of places to eat.
Shopping is not an enjoyable experience for me, and the older I get, the less I like dealing with people, and the quicker I'd like to get the shopping over with. Can Meijer succeed in the city? I point to the Home Depot, as mentioned above, as proof that a business can succeed here. As for the "where do you shop?" question, I highly doubt anybody who lives any place else in metro Detroit conducts all of their shopping in the community they live in. Very few possess every big box retailer you need, and very few offer the convenience I enjoy in Allen Park with them all packed in such close proximity. I also have to agree with those who really don't care if Detroit gets a bunch of big box stores. They are an eye sore, consume gobs of land with their parking lots, and really can't be implemented "smoothly" into Detroit's current landscape, as we DO lack an urban feel in a great part of the city. Keep your big box, I'll gladly drive my 10 minutes so it's not in my backyard.
The market is closed on Sundays--unfortunately. I agree with you and there is no reason why we can't have both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marc