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Harry Reid wants to criminalize it in NV, but I think it should be legalized. Prostitutes could be required to get medical clearances regularly and to pay taxes. And the prostitutes could require clients to use condoms and they would have more power to protect themselves from abuse. Prostitution is not going away, so why not legalize it and do away with some of the larger problems associated with it?
Heck ya, Reuse empty apartment building for the rooms, empty store front for the merchandise, shyt have a entire block "Detroit red light district"I can see the ad campaign "Get Laid In The "D". Also I think with all the empty land in the D they should use some of it to grow pot, legalize it also. Urban farming.
It has been legal since the early 1970s and there has'nt been any problems. There are no brothels in Clark and Storey counties, most are located in the rural areas. The big problem is the illegal hookers who spread diseases and foster crime in the larger areas like Vegas and Reno. The brothel ladies are required to have weekly medicals, pay taxes, and encourage if not require thier customers to wear condoms.Looks like old Harry needs to visit one before he runs his mouth. Good thread maxx.
Agreed. But the US is too dumb, fundamentalist and ideological to do anything that makes this much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxx
Rumor here in Nevada is that Harry got turned down for a freebie; thus, his rant. :)
I take it you've never visited Amsterdam? ... it might change your opinion...Quote:
Originally Posted by GUSHI
Or even Paris or many of the THRIVING cities in Germany that have legal red light districts.
It's not as bad as the slippery slope that you make it sound...
LOL! Like casino gaming the pragmatic thought will be that it will be a great idea! Just don't have the prostitution in my neighborhood. Put it in Detroit. Their desperate for any revenue - so why should anyone protest!?Quote:
Originally Posted by GUSHI
Will anyone ever learn you can't legislate morality ? It's been tried with alcohol, drugs, prostitution all over the world since biblical times. People obey laws they choose.
Sure, that IS true. Nor can you 'regulate' vice which is associated with prostitution and gambling legal or illegal. So, should the doors be flung open for this the commerce of prostitution?Quote:
Originally Posted by lpg
No. But it will continue no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacha341
This is a no brainer that for some reason our brainless government does not understand. The church has a lot of money to spread around when they really think were all going to hell and they can save us from ourselves.
A red light district could be Detroits saving grace. Ive brought this topic up before. We even talked about where in Detroit it could be done, as in what area.
I'm saying its a good idea, think about all revenue it would generate. It would take care of atleast a block of the city. Reuse some of the building, and condom sale would go up, lol, I think they should legalize it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gistok
Sorry Gushi, I misunderstood you... I bet it would be more than a block though... more like a district...
every law is an attempt to legislate morality, its just whose morality, or lack thereof you want to make the rules. Do you really think that what stays in a red-light district, stays in a red-light district, or that the mindset that takes a person there will find its way out in real society and affect families,work, etc.
Well stated... but remember if you're against the idea you're a religious wacko or conservative crank! Oh the horrors! LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebuddy
.... or you've never travelled to Europe to see how things work over there...
This thread reminds me of Mark Twain's famous line.... "travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness..."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slopeQuote:
Originally Posted by littlebuddy
do you really think that keeping it illegal keeps that mindset away from "real society" [[what, exactly, is that?) , family, work, etc? better there than having it in the house next door [["brothels" get busted in suburbia quite often), don't you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebuddy
I hear you, Europe is so far more advanced in their thinking. We're much too backwards to implement such a pragmatic option... we'll have to settle for looking on with envy... ALSO the IRS will want their cut too you know [[smile). Ah -- more paper work... yet another division or labor to sort out the 'quick from the dead' in terms of cash flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gistok
Yes, I know.... it will continue. Let us throw up our hands... another useful income stream. I get that. This is were we are.Quote:
Originally Posted by lpg
Europe is so advanced, that is why Islam will takeover in 50 years. I wonder if your neighbor's dog craps on your lawn time after time, you just throw up your hands and say it will continue no matter what, lets just find a way to tax it. If your neighbors are doing something illegal, why not call the police. Its self-centered people who want it all their way, yet want to not be touched by the self-centered people who also want life their way.
It's about curbing VD which some religionists think is just punishment from their god even though we have penicillin et al today.And it might make prostitutes less likely to be victims of their clients and certain wacko Bible thumpers. The tax revenue is an added bonus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacha341
I don't know about you, but sex is not a mind-altering drug for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by GUSHI
Time to take off those anti-Islam/pro-Israel blinders there..... maybe if you go visit Europe once or twice you'll find out that the best of everything is not always found in the USA [[and I don't mean red-light districts).Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebuddy
And you'll be speaking Spanish here in the USA long before Islam ever takes over Europe...... used your ATM or Voice Response System lately??
I would have to disagree, maybe a few hundred years at the least. You only have a few Muslim countries in europe. I do understand that there are Muslims in Europe but for the most part its a Christian continent. I have been to the Muslim area of Europe.>Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebuddy
You see a more Muslim influnence in my old hood of Detrot, then in certain Muslim cities in Europe.
Setting aside [[if you can) what the so-called religionists think, the secular and or objective reality stands and those so engaged in the traffic bear the brunt of risk[[s). The argument that any criticism of the idea of expanding prostitution is 'bound' to an easy-to-dismiss religious absurdity or stereotype 'holds' the discussion hostage.
AIDs is real and makes no distinction to ones faith or lack thereof. Further, more diseases are becoming resistant to penicillin per scientific studies that have little to do with religion at any level. Period. Setting aside the perspective of religion the activity of prostitution has its downsides.
I guess the IRS can sort out the moneys as they are more than willing, staffed and poised to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by maxx
Ummm, I was being sardonic in giving Europe props. I'm not overly impressed with their 'advances' in this area... The final outworkings are yet to be seen... And I don't support the idea of 'throwing up' ones hands either... but I understand it as a strong motivator in these cases... I should have used a 'smilie' emoticon, but forgot to...Quote:
Originally Posted by littlebuddy
Europe is more advanced, can you explain to me how Magic Johson has hiv for almost 20 years now and still living.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacha341
Actually I can tell, because he's got the cash and as far as I know he gets drugs from France. I don't think that they are approved here yet. I would image that the woman in these brofels that would be regulatd and tested would make it less risky to contract hiv/aids. Youy would think they wood be cleaner than a carckhead on the street corner.
Vegas of the midwest
Amsterdam legalized prostitution in 1980 so what could remain to be see?.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacha341
The women and men are all checked by doctors regularly and are required to use condoms unlike here. The spread of AIDS there is no doubt less than here.
That's a good point...Quote:
Originally Posted by GUSHI
Django,Quote:
Originally Posted by Django
I remember back in the 1990s going to Paris with my German cousin and her husband as part of a 5 day bus tour... and the bus driver took us down the Rue Montmartre... the area of Paris that is the legal red light district. It's hilarious to see the prostitutes in what appear to be store front windows almost like moving display dummies... scantily clad, of course... with mood lighting.
I've never been to Amsterdam... but what is funny about the Frankfurt/Main Airport is that they have a strip club and porn shop in the main shopping concourse. When one visits continental Europe... [[the beaches, etc...) one comes back seeing how prudish we Americans can be...
However... as fine as the ladies look on the beaches... many of the Speedo wearing men... they are usually not the ones you would ever want to see in Speedo's... :eek:
I have actually been to a brofel/strip club in Europe, I didn't use the services, but a couple of my buddies did, they said they had to shower before using the services and wear a condom. Myself I would never pay for those type of service, but we need something to spark the local economy.
Next time im in frankfurt on a layover i'm gonna look for the stripclup, I had no idea they had one in there. Been to the casino in there a few times.
django what concourse was it in
Gushi, Ive never been to Europe. I did visit Patpong, the red light district in Bangkok a couple of times.
OPPZ. LOL sometimes I type to fast,
If you meant me Gushi [[Frankfurt).... I can't recall... it's been over a decade ago...
Kinda funny though... you going from inquiring about Church furnishings to inquiring about Strip Clubs... LOL... ;)
Thanks for the Bangkok reference. It reminded me of an old post: One Night in Bangkok [[CHESS) Murray Head.
I'm compiling a list of favorites and that's one of them.
Ummm, they are having some problems. It's not utopia... and I think it work be less effective if legalized here, even for the pragmatic reasoning of open commerce and revenue generation...
http://www.trackandtrain.com/atmypac...d-hookers.html
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Originally Posted by Django
Of course its not perfect, what is? I haven't been to Amsterdam but I know its a far cry from Chene or Michigan Ave.
Your article seems to support it but you dont?
Im completely baffled why someone would want to keep prostitution in the streets, out in the open, and unregulated.
I never knew there was one in there, been on lay overs there 4 or 5 times, I never noticed one, lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Gistok
I tried to get some pics of one of these touts when I was in Bangkok but they didnt develop correctly [[back in the days of real photography) This is one I pulled off the internet. I apologize if I offended anyone.
Prior to 1900 a two block area of Griswold was the "red light" district for Detroit. Some say the oldest profession in the world. Hummm, profession/prostitution what might be the root word there. Did I hear lawyers? Save me nasty comments, plenty of friends are attorneys just couldn't resist a snipe.