KK in Full Weasel Mode

"Kilpatrick says he doesn’t have the money for $79,000 restitution payment, files motion to halt judge's order."

We knew this would happen sooner or later. I'm suprised it took so long.


http://freep.com/article/20100211/NE...ed-restitution

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The former Detroit mayor “has as of yet not been able to come up with the amount … and is unlikely to do so within the time allowed by the court,” Farmington Hills attorney Daniel Hajji said in the emergency motion.

Hajji said the new payments would cause Kilpatrick and his family “manifest hardship … as well as impede in his ability to earn income. ...”

The revised payments should be canceled, Hajji said, because the Wayne County Prosecutors failed to fully prove the changes were needed.

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The bit about "failed to fully prove the changes were needed" really takes balls.

I am not surprised by this move. Kilpatrick will do everything he can to avoid making payments.

Will we end up with another week of hearings?

Total sleeze...he will rape and pillage the Detroit taxpayers as long as he is allowed to do so. His a$$ needs to be thrown in jail for contempt of court. How can he afford new lawyers? How can he afford to live the lavish lifestyle he is living in Texas? Maybe if he considered downsizing considerably, like a two bedroom flat somewhere or a trailer or a motel room, he could afford his restitution payments. Just ask the thousands of Detroiters who have cut their expenses because they can't afford to live like they did before, who have lost their homes, lost their insurance, lost their jobs. At least Karmanos is paying this piece of crap a huge salary and thug KK is more than likely not doing much to justify the salary. Karmanos is either a fool to keep thug KK in his employ or the thug has something really big on Karmanos that he is threatening to use against him if he loses his token job.

Also, the council is voting today on pay cuts, benefits cuts, and layoffs of City employees because there is no money. $8 million plus would be very helpful to those that are at the losing end of this. Conyers pilfered the pension fund, thug KK has carte blanche credit cards while he was "mayor"....Detroit has really got the raw end of the stick!

Thanks for posting, I missed this one. And so the circus continues. So Kwame is basically saying that he prefers jail time over paying restitution. I think we can all live with that.

Didn't he say that the leases _ like on the Escalade and the luxury house _ were pre-paid? What I'm curious to see, if it comes out in court, is while he testified he got a hefty income tax refund last year, did he declared the $50k "gift" from Moroun on those returns? Is the IRS looking at him? My guess is Groner may be go ahead and garnish his wages just like a deadbeat parent or tax scofflaw.

^^^^I have heard that wages cannot be garnished in Texas. I would love to know if that is true.

Didn't Judge Groner say that if thug KK was put in jail that Detroit wouldn't get the money owed? Well, if thug KK won't pay, then his a$$ needs to be put in jail for whatever time it takes for him to work it off there. Maybe a few million license plates will compensate.

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Originally Posted by Buy American

Didn't Judge Groner say that if thug KK was put in jail that Detroit wouldn't get the money owed? Well, if thug KK won't pay, then his a$$ needs to be put in jail for whatever time it takes for him to work it off there. Maybe a few million license plates will compensate.

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It's times like this I almost wish for chain gangs to fix the road ways again. Personally I have no problem with our criminals in jail working hard to pay back some of that debt they owe society. If KK can't pony up the cash, make him work it off.

He will not go to jail. Too many "too big to fail" supporters and co conspirators have much to lose if KK is squeezed hard enough to spill the beans to the Feds.
Money will be provided, one way or another, to keep KK quiet until the Feds go away.

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Originally Posted by Bobl

He will not go to jail. Too many "too big to fail" supporters and co conspirators have much to lose if KK is squeezed hard enough to spill the beans to the Feds.
Money will be provided, one way or another, to keep KK quiet until the Feds go away.

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Then I guess it's time for all these supporters and co conspirators to pony up and take care of their debts to thug KK...time is running out.

I'm no supporter of Sam Riddle, but when I see the shit Kilpatrick is being allowed to get away with, I'm not sure I see much moral justification for even asking Riddle any questions, much less charging him with any crimes and trying him for them.

"weasel mode" - I love it.

He'll be giving everyone the finger as he eventually sinks in his own legal [[and moral) cesspool.
Garnishment or jail time, here we come.;)

Throw him back in to jail. Then we'll know for sure what he's doing, where he's at and what his income is. Let Karlita and the kids live with their grandparents, much as a large portion of our society is now doing. But, this is truly a story of politicians in general, rather than KK in particular. He just happens to be the most recent and egregious example. KK was like a politician's version of Hurrican Katrina, leaving a swath of destruction in his path.

His incredible arrogance is never-ending. He had plenty of time in court over the last several months to make a case that he cannot pay. He should be locked up just like anybody else would who will not comply with a court order. Plain and simple.

Point of information: A garnish is something that goes on your dinner plate. When you attach someone's wages, you garnishee them. Also Texas does not allow your wages to be garnisheed - Out of all of the Compuware offices, why do you think that kwaME picked Texas? He knew that little tidbit well in advance.

Has Mommy cut him off? She must have a stash somewhere. Just a year ago she was paying for private jets to haul his fat a$$ around.

When the Feds swoop in and seize everything maybe they can spiff the City or Prosecutor's Office a reward/finder's fee.

I wouldn't be surprised if those plane trips have put Mama K under a quietly used forensic accounting microscope, too.

Never going to do time. Calling it now. Yaw-all's boy is too slick, he is gonna tie everyone up with multiple attorneys filing motions against everyone under the sun for years.

I don't think he ever heard "be careful what you ask/wish for". Leave well enough alone must have bounced off his eardrums also. I agree mommy will rescue her little king.

I am also wondering about all these lawyers for thug KK. They are defending him in court, suing other lawyers, claiming he can't pay his restitution.....how do they figure he will pay them?

I don't want Kwame in jail. I don't want to support his ugly act at all, under any circumstances; and if he was put in jail, we would be most certainly be supporting him - sheltering, feeding & clothing him. and probably subsidizing yet another college degree while he's in there. Screw that: I can't afford to put my unemployed spouse back into school. I surely don't want to pay for Kwame.

I want that dirtbag to be required to sell his high-class, expensive material goods, move to a less-expensive residence, buy his clothes at Sears, and to account for every single dime he earns from his [[so-called) gainful employment so that the City of Detroit can garnishee his wages to the point of him having to eat regular food bought on sale at Kroger, drive a Cobalt or a Focus, and use a tracfone as his cell phone. I want him to have no choice but to live inside the Detroit city limits so that he can see and feel the fallout of his perfidy on a daily basis.

I want him to have no choice but to live in the manner that any ordinary citizen would if ordered by the court to make financial restitution for crimes committed. And, without question, just about any of us WOULD have to pay the price. I want Kwame to be held to the same standard as Joe Blow or Jane Doe.

Won't happen, there's more corrosion in this city than on a 20-yr-old Chevy truck, but one can dream.

Yeah, and all of this was self-induced. When he was whining saying he could only pay $6.00 [[an insult to every Detroiter) he should have considered that it would get worse the more indigent he claimed, while living lavishly. Who is advising him? Just well paid zombie lawyers, who keep promoting the concept that he "did not thing wrong, afterall" and is being persecuted on all sides. That would explain his resistance from the gate, though he agreed to the terms in lieu of jail time. $6,000 to $6.00 to $89,000! Duh!

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Originally Posted by cman710

I am not surprised by this move. Kilpatrick will do everything he can to avoid making payments.

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For sure, I don't want to see him in jail, or even in town... let him be a martyr there in Texas [[after all he said he's a Texan now), and mail in his payments or a garnishment.....

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Originally Posted by Corn.Bot

I don't want Kwame in jail. I don't want to support his ugly act at all, under any circumstances; and if he was put in jail, we would be most certainly be supporting him - sheltering, feeding & clothing him. and probably subsidizing yet another college degree while he's in there. Screw that: I can't afford to put my unemployed spouse back into school. I surely don't want to pay for Kwame.

I want that dirtbag to be required to sell his high-class, expensive material goods, move to a less-expensive residence, buy his clothes at Sears, and to account for every single dime he earns from his [[so-called) gainful employment so that the City of Detroit can garnishee his wages to the point of him having to eat regular food bought on sale at Kroger, drive a Cobalt or a Focus, and use a tracfone as his cell phone. I want him to have no choice but to live inside the Detroit city limits so that he can see and feel the fallout of his perfidy on a daily basis.

I want him to have no choice but to live in the manner that any ordinary citizen would if ordered by the court to make financial restitution for crimes committed. And, without question, just about any of us WOULD have to pay the price. I want Kwame to be held to the same standard as Joe Blow or Jane Doe.

Won't happen, there's more corrosion in this city than on a 20-yr-old Chevy truck, but one can dream.

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Perhaps their interest is so that he will have a coin or two left over to pay them.... LOL!

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Originally Posted by Buy American

I am also wondering about all these lawyers for thug KK. They are defending him in court, suing other lawyers, claiming he can't pay his restitution.....how do they figure he will pay them?

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No wonder he's a Texan!

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Originally Posted by ct_alum

Point of information: A garnish is something that goes on your dinner plate. When you attach someone's wages, you garnishee them. Also Texas does not allow your wages to be garnisheed - Out of all of the Compuware offices, why do you think that kwaME picked Texas? He knew that little tidbit well in advance.

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Yes, he does present as someone perhaps "holding" a trump card or two -- this would explain his positioning. It would/ will be interesting to follow the next fiscal roll out trail.

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Originally Posted by Bobl

He will not go to jail. Too many "too big to fail" supporters and co conspirators have much to lose if KK is squeezed hard enough to spill the beans to the Feds.
Money will be provided, one way or another, to keep KK quiet until the Feds go away.

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Is the big silly donut fountain still in Hart Plaza? For that matter, is Hart Plaza still there?

If so, it would make a good gallows.

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Is the big silly donut fountain still in Hart Plaza? For that matter, is Hart Plaza still there?

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Yes. Watch the banners at the top of the page to see pics of it.

That's pretty ugly. We don't need to go down that road even is jest. The man just needs to pay his restitution...

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Originally Posted by Meddle

Is the big silly donut fountain still in Hart Plaza? For that matter, is Hart Plaza still there?

If so, it would make a good gallows.

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Originally Posted by Meddle

Is the big silly donut fountain still in Hart Plaza? For that matter, is Hart Plaza still there?

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Yes, Isamu Noguchi's fountain is still here.
Silly? Not sure I follow you...

Perhaps the kilpatricks should be forced to live
in the Belle Isle Aquarium.
It's empty isn't it?

With as much dissapointment this man has caused me , I say send him to somewhere where his Caddy gets stolen, His wife and kids gotta shop at Foreman Mills and he does get locked up with no perks.
If there is such a law, Let it be said that I favor He NEVER HOLD a public position again. But as with Marion Berry things get forgotten. Was watching Let it Rip yesterday and heard one of the panel Sam Hood? bring up the fact that it was Black History Month and Kwame , Sam ,and Monica were all in court as if it were degrading to African Americans that they are in court in the month of Febuary.
That had to rank as one of the more stupid things I have heard,saw, and yes have wrote.
Kwame is a thug and needs to pay up or pay the price.

Let him run for office in Texas and do what he did here. They still have chain gangs.

Actually, I think we are well rid of him. While he claims indigence, I say he is morally bankrupt.

Total weasel!

Er-uh, ah-hmmm... Hah-that's a vision... Texas has it's own issues and corruption no doubt, but they're not tryna' have no yankee roll-up down there there with their mess and their assembly of Detroit templated-boiler plate mess. KK will/ would KNOW this soon, were he so disposed to excercise the idea. It's not same down there as it is up here! He'd learn fast that some of their seeming friendliness is mere superficial "southern" politeness relative to his pattern[[s). No Detroit "stylie" down there....... NOT! Some things are not transferable.

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Originally Posted by sumas

Let him run for office in Texas and do what he did here. They still have chain gangs.

Actually, I think we are well rid of him. While he claims indigence, I say he is morally bankrupt.

Total weasel!

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Judge Groner never seems to be in a rush to rule on a motion. It has already been a week. I wonder if he is waiting to rule on this one until the last moment so that it makes it difficult for KK to file an appeal?

On a Fox 2 report on a lenghty radio report, Kilpatrick is saying he does not have the $70,000+ he is suppose to pay soon. He also says it's time for Detroit to stop "focusing" on him... what a self-involved comment. All of this is "self-induced" and I know he rues the day he claimed he could only pay $6.00 per month, compared to this!!!!! Didn't he process it the possible outcome[[s) thru... Talk about sugar to stink -- in terms of quadrupling ones problems... he has a law degree... yet was poorly advised..... see link below:

Kwame Kilpatrick Gives Lengthy Radio Interview, Speaks of Good He Did for Detroit

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/news...adio-interview

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Originally Posted by leland_palmer

Judge Groner never seems to be in a rush to rule on a motion. It has already been a week. I wonder if he is waiting to rule on this one until the last moment so that it makes it difficult for KK to file an appeal?

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Make KK poor! Humble that crooked bum! I would like to see his family at the store with a WIC card in hand and driving a piece of crap junk car. Maybe his family can move into a one or two bedroom apartment in the Cass Corridor... Make him pay every dime till he is broke looking for a minimum wage job and waiting for buses because his wife has the car to take the kids to Detroit Public Schools and crappy grocery stores in the city. "Make him Humble!" Quote by The Iron Sheik

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Originally Posted by leland_palmer

Judge Groner never seems to be in a rush to rule on a motion. It has already been a week. I wonder if he is waiting to rule on this one until the last moment so that it makes it difficult for KK to file an appeal?

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I guess not. I knew that would happen if I didn't wait till the end of the day to post!!!

Kilpatrick loses bid to delay $79K repayment

http://freep.com/article/20100216/NE...-79K-repayment

I, with some sense of reservation, was delighted to hear this news, today.
The reservation came from wanting to hear the "Or What?" segment of this judgment.
I will say that which I have been saying, and will continue to say: the only way to get this criminal's attention is by taking him into custody and placing his arrogant, scoff-law ass into a jail cell.
Anything short of that will allow this circus to run as a perpetual thorn in the side of those of us who are not willing to "move on" from KK's reprehensible spree of self-advancing criminal activities.
And those folks who support the idea of "moving on" may be momentarily forgetting to consider where they would be if they had committed just 10% of the shit KK has, so far, gotten away with.
I believe that a significant part of "moving on" involves having seen justice invoked, and carried out, to whatever extent is available and appropriate.
We're not there, yet, so I'm not "moving on" one goddam step. Oh, no. Not anytime soon. If one of my boys had done any of that stuff, Mrs. Ravine & I would be taking regular trips to the penitentiary with little packages of soap and cookies and stuff.

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Originally Posted by ravine

i, with some sense of reservation, was delighted to hear this news, today.
The reservation came from wanting to hear the "or what?" segment of this judgment.
I will say that which i have been saying, and will continue to say: The only way to get this criminal's attention is by taking him into custody and placing his arrogant, scoff-law ass into a jail cell.
Anything short of that will allow this circus to run as a perpetual thorn in the side of those of us who are not willing to "move on" from kk's reprehensible spree of self-advancing criminal activities.
And those folks who support the idea of "moving on" may be momentarily forgetting to consider where they would be if they had committed just 10% of the shit kk has, so far, gotten away with.
I believe that a significant part of "moving on" involves having seen justice invoked, and carried out, to whatever extent is available and appropriate.
We're not there, yet, so i'm not "moving on" one goddam step. Oh, no. Not anytime soon. If one of my boys had done any of that stuff, mrs. Ravine & i would be taking regular trips to the penitentiary with little packages of soap and cookies and stuff.

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Originally Posted by JohnnyFreddy

Perhaps the kilpatricks should be forced to live
in the Belle Isle Aquarium.
It's empty isn't it?

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They deserve to live in one of the neighborhoods. Keep them the hell out of the aquarium.

Apparently, Mamma Cheeks Kilpatrick got a bunch of friends together to hold a bake sale for Y'all's Boy last Friday. I Wonder if they raised $79,000?

Will he have to pay %30 of that gift too?

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Former Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick may not be running for public office anytime soon, but some of his friends and family are still reaching out to Detroiters for support -- at least the monetary kind.

Family members -- including Kilpatrick's mother, U.S. Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, a Detroit Democrat -- were gathered at Butcher's Inn Tequila and Margarita Bar on Friday. They told some close friends they would be collecting cash to help the former mayor with mounting legal bills and a looming restitution deadline.

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http://freep.com/article/20100216/NE...seek-donations

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Originally Posted by leland_palmer

I Wonder if they raised $79,000?

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Of course they did. :rolleyes: Yep. Uh huh.

You don't think he has that kind of money just laying around, do you? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by leland_palmer

Apparently, Mamma Cheeks Kilpatrick got a bunch of friends together to hold a bake sale for Y'all's Boy last Friday. I Wonder if they raised $79,000?

Will he have to pay %30 of that gift too?


http://freep.com/article/20100216/NE...seek-donations

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Yeah, "clever" that Kwame will now magically come up with the money and say it was raised during his "fundraiser" that momma describes as not quite being a fundraiser and what will be portrayed as support from the citizens of Detroit when reality it is probably the usual suspects [[businessman, preachers, family members on nonprofit fund boards).

Isn't this the second fundraiser KK has had at the Butcher's Inn? I wonder what is going on with that...Butcher's has only been reopened for like a year, and was being renovated during the whole, text, etc., thing. Maybe there's no connection.

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Originally Posted by bartock

Yeah, "clever" that Kwame will now magically come up with the money and say it was raised during his "fundraiser" that momma describes as not quite being a fundraiser and what will be portrayed as support from the citizens of Detroit when reality it is probably the usual suspects [[businessman, preachers, family members on nonprofit fund boards).

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Yes, exactly. I believe the purpose of the "fundraiser" is not so much to raise funds as it is to provide a plausible explanation when Kwame suddenly comes up with that kind of money out of nowhere. I believe he still has a ton of money that he skimmed off the top and has stored in offshore accounts. His cut of all of the projects thrown Bobby Ferguson's way -- that alone is enough to make him a multi-millionaire.

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Originally Posted by LodgeDodger

They deserve to live in one of the neighborhoods. Keep them the hell out of the aquarium.

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I say make him move into the house next to Sumas.

Question is what will the judge do on Friday?

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Originally Posted by daddeeo

Question is what will the judge do on Friday?

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In my opinion, his a$$ should be thrown in jail for contempt of court. I can't help but think that if this were Joe Sixpack, he certainly wouldn't have been given all the considerations that thug KK has been afforded.

Well, we don't need him in jail, on the dole -- being even more of a martyr. The "can only pay $6.00" indigent scam was what got the big-money-now ball rolling... it would have been better for him to have started out paying strong, then maybe negotiate later... what a self-induced mess...........

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Originally Posted by daddeeo

Question is what will the judge do on Friday?

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