Would a car museum be a good destination addition to downtown Detroit? The museum could have classic cars from the big 3 as well as companies such as Desoto, Studebaker as well as foreign cars such as Toyota Honda, Mini Coopers, Mercedes, BMW etc.
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Would a car museum be a good destination addition to downtown Detroit? The museum could have classic cars from the big 3 as well as companies such as Desoto, Studebaker as well as foreign cars such as Toyota Honda, Mini Coopers, Mercedes, BMW etc.
The key word is "destination" addition. It would have to be massively large and expensive to actually draw visitors beyond those who might visit while already downtown. We already have the Henry Ford for antique vehicles and the Dream Cruise to see muscle car area, etc. There are also a lot of specialty car museums throughout the country such as the Corvette Museum, etc. Also keep in mind young people have much less interest in cars today than baby boomers. Maybe some day they will want a crossover/suv museum of today's vehicles. It would be smaller, since every vehicle looks the same.:)
Michigan already has a first class car museum, the Gilmore Car Museum, on 90 acres in Hickory Corners just NE of Kalamazoo [[or NW of Battle Creek). Last I remember, they have more than 300 cars and motorcycles.
https://gilmorecarmuseum.org/
I dunno. Flint's Auto World fiasco does not offer much encouragement. It would also be in competition against not-that-faraway Henry Ford Museum's collection, Stahl's in Chesterfield Township or even the budding collection at the Piquette Ave. Plant. Maybe a world class aquarium or an architectural museum, or something else that doesn't exist, might be in order.
Agreed. And in addition to the already mentioned car museums, there is the National Automotive Hall of Fame Museum in Dearborn [[adjacent to The Henry Ford), the Ypsilanti Automotive Heritage Museum, the R.E. Olds Transportation Museum, the Buick Gallery and Research Center in Flint, among others. Plus there are a myriad of auto-related historic sites around Southeast Michigan and within the state. The MotorCities National Heritage Area promotes our automotive history through programs, tours, and online resources to create your own tour of the area. So Detroit is not lacking when it comes to automotive historic sites!
I like the idea. But it would have to have a focus. Perhaps, electric vehicles only? Give people a sense of what technologies are currently available and it would be focused on the future.
I think the auto show was really intending to promote electric and new technologies with demo areas outdoors, etc. but sadly they missed the boat two years now due to the pandemic and it looks like electric is already quickly going mainstream. Car museums are all about design and I don't think a museum based on technology would work - unless you have 200 years of it like the Henry Ford.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLemur
What do you call a museum of the future?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLemur
A world's fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wheels
The only thing we have in Detroit is the Fird Piquette museum. Everything else is in the suburbs. Have one spot, it could even be in an inflated dome structure, where all brand of historic cars especially the 40s through 60s Era in the same space. The cars could be rotated each month with different models
You want to showcase the motor city's vehicle history by sticking them in a bubble downtown? Aside from the terrible impression, it's not realistic. These vehicles have to be stored in exact temperature/humidity conditions and rotating in and out of storage would cost a bundle.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasu1213
In the very earliest renderings of the Hudson's site it looked as though Gilbert was going to put some sort of design and automotive museum on the site as part of a cultural campus. Obviously that didn't happen and the programming changed but I wouldn't be surprised if he's still thinking along those lines somewhere downtown. Gratiot or the lots along the riverfront that GM owns would both be logical spots for that.
An electric vehicle only automobile museum? That Chevrolet Volt section would be positively soul stirring.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLemur
We already have car museums. Check out the Ford Piquette Plant and the Henry Ford Museum.
The Ford Piquette museum only have antique Fords.
Pretty sure those were simply renderings of event space, similar to how MGM hosted exotic cars during the auto show.Quote:
Originally Posted by southen
In a word, No. We do not need any more car museums in the Detroit area or Michigan.
First, we have enough already. And second, the business model is not sustainable.
Look at what we already have. What marque is missing or under-represented??
1. The Gilmore Museum
2. Classic Car Club – partner in Gilmore
3. Franklin Automobile – partner in Gilmore
4. Cadillac/LaSalle – partner in Gilmore
5. Ford Model A – partner in Gilmore
6. Lincoln Motor Car – partner in Gilmore
7. Pierce Arrow Club – partner in Gilmore
8. Horseless Carriage Club – partner in Gilmore
9. The Henry Ford
10. Ford Piquette Plant
11. Stahls Automotive Foundation
12. Packard Proving Grounds
13. Wills Sainte Claire Auto Museum
14. Automotive Hall of Fame
15. RE Olds Museum
16. GM Historic Archives
17. Ypsilanti [[Hudson) Auto Museum
18. Michigan Firehouse Museum
19. Sloan [[Buick) Museum
20. Pontiac / Oakland Car Museum
21. Roush Auto Collection
Sustainability – there has never been an auto museum to survive from entry fees alone. Most museums charge in the $8 to $12 dollar range and have about 15,000 paid guests a year. At $150,000 a year that does not pay for curator and staff salaries, let alone utilities, maintenance of the building and car collection, insurance, and general operating costs. This is all assuming someone bought the land and constructed a building for FREE.
All museums rely on either a “sugar daddy” or some other source of income to keep the doors open. Supplementary income sources include fundraisers, donors, legacy gifts, grants and renting the property as an event venue.
Do a search of the financial filings of the IRS 990 report forms for non-profit auto museums and see the long list of operating costs. Don’t be surprised at how many museums are losing money.
Again, who is not already in the area? And who has a sustainable business plan?
Actually, an Aquarium of the Great Lakes sounds like a good idea, focusing on the fauna of our very own local waters. Maybe a transition section on the changes in habitat as one goes from the Great Lakes, down the St Lawrence, to the Atlantic. Hell, start in the lakes of the UP, northern LP, and Oakland County, and show how the habitats of these very different places harbor unique combinations of flora and fauna.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lowell
Thanks to the happenstance of the inadvertant mothballing of, e.g., MCS, Book, etc., because they were too expensive to tear down, plus the continued usage of Fischer and the GM Tech Center, Detroit already is a museum of American architecture of the 20th century. Maybe a permanent museum to tie everything together, plus driving tours based on themes such as residential, industrial, office, or KAHN!! could be a draw for architecture fiends.
If one looks at a couple of key words and suggestions already like creating destinations and rotating stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Packman41
One could create a large auto eccentric museum that is actually represented by all of the other museums under one roof,rotating stock so the been there done that aspect is eliminated.
The other participating museums would gain more exposure and could branch of from there in a kinda like here is a taste of what we have to offer in a more specific setting.
You collect at the main event and hand them a coupon for a reduced price to visit,the Packard Proving grounds where it actually happened,raise your price there to $25 for the more personalized experience,give them a coupon for $5 off,you are now collecting double admission.
You are doubling,at least,your exposure,the building is paid for by the bed tax so what are you really out of pocket in order to create more exposure?
Yes it does always boil down to expense and museums are money pits,but they are important money pits when it comes to the public.
Where the tourist destinations kick in,bed taxes are levied to fund them.
They also fund convention centers and other facilities tourist related,you have 3 things that the world knows Detroit for,architecture and how to destroy it,the automobile and the music scene.
All of those could be capitalized,I do not think a central automotive museum would canibalize the other auto museums.
When people come from all over the world to visit Disney world,they do not stop there,even though they stay on the property and have at their fingertips everything they could desire,they still span out and spend millions in the local economy,they can buy trainloads of little Chinese made Mickey Mouse figures right there on Disney property,but they still buy them in local shops.
Disney world spends millions every year trying to figure out how to keep guests trapped within their space,they go out of their way so people do not leave the property,but yet millions still do.
I would not be so quick to look at it as a competition,more so a concerted effort in order to build a tourist based automotive destination as part of the bigger picture,where everybody is represented and benefits from increased traffic.
Maybe a representative from each existing museum forms a automotive museum tourist council that oversees it,so everybody is represented equally.You guys know your game better then anybody else.
They use the bed tax in order to fund things because it takes the tax weight off of the locals.
The world already knows Detroit,recognition is half the battle,give them a reason to re-discover you,they saved up all year for the trip,they are looking for a place to spend that money.
Like Art the history of the automobile past will never go away,Monet has been dead for how long? But people still pay money and want to see those paintings because they are representative of a style that will never go out of fashion anybody that says a early brass era car or even a lot of 30s 40s 50s 60s car are not rolling works of art is blind.
Do not underestimate the power of the tourist dollar and what it can do for a local economy.
If somebody can stick a massive mall out in the middle of Bumphuck nowhere and it becomes an international tourist destination I would think you guys have a lot more to offer a bit more exciting then a day at the mall.
Do not have anything to lose by at least checking the idea out.
GM has so much empty "retail" space in the Ren Cen with virtually no chance of filling it. Something like this would make sense for them. I'm sure GM even has old concept cars sitting around somewhere that they could rotate in and out. That would actually be a draw for some enthusiasts, much more so than another Mustang or Corvette.
Richard, I believe you've not been to metro Detroit...
But The Henry Ford... [Henry Ford Museum & Greenfield Village] is the largest indoor/outdoor museum in the country, and 2nd only to the Smithsonian when it comes to Americana.
It pretty much sucks much of the visitor dollars from people wanting to see history here in Detroit.
Besides being the premier museum of American innovation, it has a vast collection of cars, airplanes, trains, machinery. It also includes such historic items as the limo in which President Kennedy was assassinated, the Ford Theatre Chair in which Lincoln was assassinated in, the Rosa Parks Bus... and everything imaginable of historic Americana.
And in the Greenfield Village area next door it has [on a scale reminiscent of Colonial Williamsburg] a vast village of historic relocated buildings, such as Thomas Edison's entire Menlo Park NJ complex, Lincoln's Logan County Courthouse, Wright Brothers Home and Cycle Shop, Firestone Farm, and nearly 100 other famous buildings that were all relocated here. Henry Ford even attempted to buy Independence Hall in the early 20th Century, but was denied... so he built a facsimile as the Museum front.
Detroit really does have 2 world class museums in the Detroit Institute of Arts and The Henry Ford. Nothing else here comes close...
P.S. Hotel and [by the glass] liquor taxes already are paying for the last expansion of Detroit's Convention Center.
With tourism you have to have a wow factor with a little ringling brothers thrown in.
Being it is Detroit,the birthplace,I would think people would want to see how the automobile evolved through the ages for all brands with representative vehicles that showcase that.
I can go to a local car show and see any kind of vehicle I want for free,if I am expecting an automobile experience I would expect to pay for it.
When people go see a movie in a theater,are they going for the movie or the experience that come with it?
If you start out with all of the brands being represented,you are getting a taste and if for instance you want to see more model T representatives,well step right up because we have more in the plant that they are actually built in right over here.
The main event is the bait or the seduction,once you get their interest peaked you get them into a more intimate setting for an up
close and personal,who can resist?
Of course along the way,they have to eat,get gas and hey let’s check that place out!
It’s totally different when you deal with tourists verses locals,tourists are there for one reason only,for you to seduce the cash out of their pockets,if not they would not even be there in the first place.
But they are expecting an experience to remember in exchange.
The Henry Ford Museum experience is pretty amazing... :)
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+...ih=577&dpr=1.5
I think Ford sucks,as a tourist,you got any other things to offer ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gistok
I have a friend that has 16 model A and T s,he drives a different one to work every day to the barbershop like he has for the last 50 years.
As a tourist I can go take Amtrak to Washington DC ,pay $20 for the Old town bus tour that drops me off at every museum that costs nothing to get into including the Smithsonian.
Nothing is stopping the city of Detroit from levying it’s own bed tax,or expanding it to AirBNB,as far as I know anyways.
But tourism effects everybody in the state and it should be a state wide objective to exploit all avenues across the board and create new ones.
Do not take this the wrong way and think that I am disrespecting what you currently have to offer,you are right,I have not been there,so I cannot judge,people spend to much time telling me I have not been there,verses giving me a reason to be there.
You are correct,I see Pure Michigan adds but they concentrate on strictly natural resources and not anything else you have to offer,every state has beauty in their natural resources.
You could very well have the best art institutes in the country or Ford may very well have a excellent museum,but if the world does not know about it,it does no good.
On the international aspect,tourists are spending $10,000 plus in that week,you have to keep them entertained for that week with a full schedule all day long,even if rail progresses and you draw day trips,you still have to be able to fill those 1 to 3 day trips.
If funds are being siphoned out of the COD which is preventing tourist trade growth that will help the city and ease the burden on local taxpayers,you have local representatives that have proven that they are not camera shy maybe it is time to light a fire under their ass and get those issues resolved first.
As an internationally recognized city you have to have loftier goals and fluid,not this here and that there,you have to tie it all together into one big revenue generating machine.
Getting back to the automobile museum as an example,it’s tough to survive on your own and all of these little places competing against each other for the dollar when everybody is actually a part of that same circle.
The art institute,Ford museum,Packard proving grounds,the historical architecture etc it is all connected in the bigger picture,you just have to figure out how to stitch it all together.
Combined you have a collection of stuff across a wide spectrum that 90% of the other cities in this country cannot even come close to matching.
But you do not want to share it with the rest of the world,you can,the opportunity is there .
I spent 30 years in Orlando,I saw what it was like when 100s of different entities fought each other for that tourist dollar,it was dog eat dog,until they all got together for a common goal,then everybody made bank.
In that game,nobody survives as an island amongst themselves.
I think part of the cultural center revitalization plan includes an expansion of the Detroit Historical Museum which I would hope would include many of their "bubble" cars currently being stored at Fort Wayne.
I know when I travel I look for museums and cultural institutions that are in or around downtown. We have a ton of museums but I feel that lack of a central location near downtown probably hurts the potential of drawing people in for that type of institution. That is just based on how I travel and visit places though, I don't know if the numbers would bare that out.
Not true. Yes, there are primarily Fords, but also Overland, EMF, Studebaker, Cadillac & Regal. All but the Overland are cars produced in the Milwaukee Junction area, [[where the Piquette Plant is located). Plus, there is an extremely rare, complete "set" of Ford "Alphabet Cars". The Alphabet cars, as they are sometimes known, are Models A, B, C, F, K, N, R, S & T, spanning the years 1903 - 1909. The Model B being the rarest, with maybe 5 left in existance.Quote:
Originally Posted by stasu1213
This thread speaks volumes to the demographic that gets excited about car museums. Old men, just like some of the posters here, they would love another auto museum. The reality is that is a piss poor demo for marketing. Few target it with the exception of viagra and other various medications. If anyone in Detroit wants to build a new ‘destination’ attraction if must have a strong appeal to young to middle age people with children. That is where the money is. I would vote for the aquarium. They are extremely popular.
^^^ Ditto on that. Love the Atlanta aquarium!
Well, I'm in my 60's, was the 1st to post a reply to this thread, and pretty much said exactly that. Aquariums are a proven attraction, I'll give you that, but if you think other museums are expensive to operate, wait until you see the deficits aquariums ring up. It would be great if they could come up with something unique. Nobody is going to come to see the aquarium outside Michigan any more than they come for the casinos when they are in every city now.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit
I agree “something unique” with large appeal to families with children would be fantastic, simpler said then done though. If that was low hanging fruit their would be a lot more new for profit attractions in or near major population centers.Quote:
Originally Posted by 401don
As far as a Detroit aquarium ‘nobody is going to come from outside Michigan’ we will have to disagree. Detroit is not that far from the populated state of Ohio as well as your home turf in Canada. Besides those facts frankly, Detroit needs to become more attractive to Michiganders. We have lost out on a lot of long weekend tourism money to Chicago over the years. Obviously, the only way aquariums get built anywhere outside Disney is with philanthropic dollars.
I agree... the point I was trying to make is that we were already "over Auto'ed". Good point about finding Detroit a niche for being a destination location.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit
While an aquarium wouldn't totally fill that niche, it would certainly help. However... a "Great Lakes" freshwater aquarium is kind of boring. There just aren't enough Great Lakes species to add any wow factor to us having a world class aquarium. It could have to have a Great Lakes component, and also a saltwater component, since all the really cool aquarium species are saltwater.
And your point about philanthropic money should remind us that the Ralph Wilson Foundation is cash rich in recreational and educational funds that MUST be spent [between Detroit & Buffalo] over the next 20 years. I don't recall seeing any donations from that fund to anything major in Detroit since 2018, when the West Riverfront park was funded. They are due for a major project, since the Foundation is only supposed to have a 20 year lifespan.
If they've not funded anything major since 2018... the Foundation probably has investments that sent the total fund back up to its' initial $1.2 billion, and they are long overdue for spending on some big ticket Detroit projects... such as a world class aquarium. :)
All things are worth investigating. I think an Aquarium and yet another car museum is a very heavy lift. Here some basics on one of the more famous aquariums in the country, which I have visited in the past: https://www.presstelegram.com/2021/0...ide-reopening/
Also depending on philanthropy on a forever basis will be a tough sell and unrealistic on an ongoing basis... you have to continually "Feed the Beast".
I think building on and leveraging our strengths is better, like the example of the DIA and the current auto design exhibit.
A strong, expanded Motown Museum deploying existing exhibits, like the Motown Exhibit displayed at The Ford in the past great interactive exhibits could be redeployed to a wide visitor audience.
DIA, African American Museum, Historical Museum, The Henry Ford Complex, & Auto Tours, Motown Museum, Belle Isle +, Auto Baron Estates, DSO, Pewabic...put the energy, time and limited resources into these gems. Expand programming, demographics, and fresh ideas.
As I said all things are worth exploring.
Not sure why everybody keeps looking for ways to not make things happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by SFDS
I guess no matter how it is explained people just do not understand that when it comes to tourism bed taxes collected pays the costs.
Philanthropy has zero to do with it,unless you are having issues with the private museums trying to control the market.
2019
City of Detroit had a 69% hotel occupancy rate
The average nightly stay at $171
Bed tax rate 15%
You bed tax rate is .33% lower then New York City
The average nightly hotel rate in the United States $103
Those numbers were from 2019
So you are a city with 1/2 the population,but has the highest adverage nightly room rental rates in the country,collecting one of the highest bed tax rates in the country but funding,from what is posted here,a 1/3 of what the other major cities are offering.
I think the first step,before even funding a tourist taco stand in the corner,would be to find out where the millions that are already being collected is actually going.
Orlando collects a 12% bed tax,Detroit collects a 15% bed tax,a $4500 difference if a company wants to do a corporate visit to Detroit verses Orlando.
In short you are already collecting tourism based revenue equal to cities twice your size while providing the minimum amount of tourist available options.
By the accounts posted here,the ones that have been listed,are philanthropic based,kinda makes one wonder where the money is actually going.
It makes it hard to figure out where you want to be,if you do not know where you are at.
I am thinking one of the best kept secrets in COD is how much revenue is collected at that 15% and where is it spent,and who makes the decision on where it is spent.
Anybody read Pure Michigan’s winter tourism target cities?
Northeast cities only that are in direct competition with Detroit,so you are competing with 25 other cities.
You know What is funny in Florida?
You can go to the flea market and buy,snow skis,snow boards even snow blowers,heck you can even find 1000 people a day moving here from up north that spent their lifetime enjoying those activities.
But what you cannot find is somebody saying - pssst come up here and check us out and put those snow skis to work.
The discussion was debating between Aquarium and a car museum. Not difficult to comprehend. This is how the largest Aquarium in America was built with Philanthropy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard
https://philanthropynewsdigest.org/n...ium-in-atlanta
When you actually do leave your computer where you are constantly posting to a board about a city you have never even visited do you have fun arguing with everyone else in the nursing home? I bet you are their favorite. ☹️
Well let me put it this way sense you seem to like talking shit,no I have never been to Detroit,but I have a vested interest in it amongst others,we get paid either way,either by increasing your base taxes or by increase city revenues not tax based.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit
The prudent thing to do would be to increase revenues while decreasing the tax burden on an already overtaxed citizenship,but hey what do I know,I have never been there.
Play stupid games you win stupid prizes,you do not have the money for a museum or an aquarium in your back pocket,so why even discuss it,if you are not even interested in how to move it forward.
You guys keep spreading this message of if you have not been to Detroit you have zero to say about it.
Funny thing is,I never saw you with checkbook in hand after the bankruptcy,but there were a hell of a lot of others that had also not been to the city before,but no surprise,all talk and zero action.
Zero action until it came to advocating giving away city assets when it was not necessary.
Bonds paid to restore basic services and helped pay the bills until solid leadership got the ball rolling,they can also be used for infrastructure like mass transit,and funding things like museums and aquariums,they help pay for stuff no different then if you go to the bank and buy a car,in theses cases you use them to fund stuff where your payment is lower then your revenue intake.
I did not put that in there for your benefit,clearly you could care less,but there are others that do care,so just ignore that part.
It is people like you that make it so others cannot get things done in the city.
Reread the op - it had zero to do with an aquarium like you used as your crutch of a post - it was a forward thinking post by a forward thinking citizen looking for ways to make their city a better place to live by creating diversity in the economy.
Its a city of two halves,one half is working hard everyday to make it a better place,while the other half is like a ball and chain holding them back
It is clear where you fit into that,how come you cannot just get out of the way of those trying to move forward? What can you possibly gain in taking the stance that you do?
You think you are all the shit now while talking crap about old folks in nursing homes,you will be there one day also,but with that attitude,I kinda doubt it.
I put my money where my mouth is,you just come on the internet anonymously and talk crap,I would be embarrassed to post under my real name if I was like you also.
You cannot even comprehend two simple words.
Car Museum,can’t miss it,it is right there at the top.
You live there,surly you can pay for it or figure out how to make it happen better then somebody that does not,right ? Smart guy?
Let me guess,you are going to just sit around while everybody else does the heavy lifting,then expect to reap the rewards,because they owe you something because you exist there.
Richard... which Pure Michigan commercials are you watching?? :rolleyes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5tJaRrZZMs
^ that one was funny.
on that subject of horses and sleighs
I wish everybody has a safe and merry Christmas
Actually, a common complaint I've heard about Henry Ford Museum among visitors from outside of town is that it is lacking in Ford automobiles. A number of tourists in addition to what they heard is already there expect to see a large number of Ford automobiles from all through the years. Basically, an Auburn Cord Duesenberg type of collection of Ford, Mercury, Edsel, Lincoln within the entire Henry Museum collection displayed. Of course, that would require a massive expansion that isn't realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gistok
Actually, the Detroit area never really had an Auburn Cord Duesenberg caliber car museum. I think the time has passed for various reasons as enumerated in some other posts including the ever important financial support. However, I have heard the Gilmore Car Museum in the Kalamazoo area has an impressive collection.
Since Detroit has bee notorious over the years for destroying its past the fact the city never had a real world class museum that focused exclusively on automobiles isn't probably that surprising. Selling the new metal of that particular model year should be celebrated for more than the old metal of yesterday, which won't continue to generate profit for the respective auto companies. Besides, I think Henry Ford Museum was thought of as more than adequate. The quality of what they have in terms of on display in terms of historical value is impressive. The volume of cars they have on display is probably lacking for a museum so interwoven with Ford Motor Company.
So the Dream Cruise only attract farty old men? I beg to differ. Many younger people would come to a museum filled with GM, Mopar,and Ford cars of the 50s and 60s including muscle carsQuote:
Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit
You really don't know what you're talking about. You are drawing on stereotypes of what you perceive are car fans. The demographic that visits Piquette are loads of school children, [[pre-covid anyway), young families, and tons of young people from all over the world. I personally gave a tour to a group of twenty-somethings from China.Quote:
Originally Posted by ABetterDetroit
Do not underestimate how much interest there would be in having the foremost automobile museum in the nation, in the very hub of an inustry that employs millions from coast to coast. It would appeal to car enthusiasts, engineers, kids, and families.
But the reality is that absolutely none of that would be possible without the collaboration of the Big 3 and sveral prominent private collectors. The reason there are hundreds of car museums around the country is because they are a lucrative business. There would not be so many of the money wasn't there to support them.
That said. there is not a snowball's chance in hell of this ever happening. I mean for crying out loud, GM rarely even lets the public into their own autimotive heritage center in Sterling Heights.
Sometimes people set their sites to low,how come you cannot have a world class automobile museum and a world class aquarium?
Detroit became a world class city before by pushing the boundaries,not by settling for less,that is kinda defeatist.
I think the automotive museum aspect is going to increase in demand,why?
Because when I was a kid and going to car shows and swap meets it was brass era pre 1940s dominating,now it is 1950s -1970s dominated,those vehicles will never be reproduced again and in the future who is going to pay money to see a pristine 2005 Honda Accord or even a 2020 Chevrolet Silverado?
You can take a brass era Packard and put it next to a Picasso and they are both works of art ,to most the automobile story stopped being defined after 1970.
Outside of a few all they are anymore is just a mode of blasa transportation that gets you from point A to B with a few electronic gadget do dads thrown in for those who expect less.
How many have a Pierce Arrow or a 1929 Packard Sport Phantom sitting in their garage? There are a heck of a lot more Picasso’s out there and when you see cars bringing 2-3 million dollars they are right up there with the art world.
The Toronto auto show has a large classic vehicle display in a separate area every year. Individuals from all over Ontario and parts of the U.S. show their vehicles. It is always one of the busiest areas of the show. Detroit has quite a lot of unused space inside the convention center with less companies participating and the goal to move much of the show outside. This would be an opportunity for the Big 3 to bring some of their hidden gems out of storage, as well as promote other car museums in the area.