Coronavirus Cases Confirmed In Wayne, Oakland Counties
The inevitable has arrived. Michigan's first two coronavirus cases have been confirmed: one in Wayne County and one in Oakland County.
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Coronavirus Cases Confirmed In Wayne, Oakland Counties
The inevitable has arrived. Michigan's first two coronavirus cases have been confirmed: one in Wayne County and one in Oakland County.
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It was just a matter of time. So how will this affect your activities? Cutting down visits to Starbucks or public gatherings? I haven't yet, but it's been crossing my mind.
Large events continue to cancelled or put on hold. Pandemic or pandemonium? The economic implications are profound.
Since the Coronavirus hits Metro Detroit Area.
Large events like Movement, fewer Tiger's Games, the N.A.I.A.S. may be cancelled. There might not be any Grand Prix Racing. Some the race car drivers are from Italy and those Italian race car drivers can not leave the country. There might not be any Ford Fireworks, too.
In fact cancel all events this year. It's time to face this virus. Human survival is more important then enjoying worldly pleasures.
May God have mercy on our souls.
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I don't understand why they don't just shut everything down immediately. Have everyone self-quarantine for 2-3 weeks. I mean everything except police, fire, health care, etc. Just get it over with instead of letting all these local authorities decide as it continues to spread. Isn't that the best way to stop it and wouldn't it be better for everyone, including business, airlines, etc.?
I think they're worried that the effects of a complete shutdown would be worse than the the disease itself. As a society we're simply not ready for that kind of disruption to our daily lives. Many people could not even go more than a few days without running out of food, prescriptions not to mention money itself. To bring the entire economy to complete stop wouldn't even be possible in China where they have unlimited control over everything. Here in the U.S it would result in near total chaos.
Also, there was an article yesterday that stated the complete shutdown of the Wuhan area of China basically just created a 3-4 delay in the spread of the disease, and had no chance of actually stopping it. Basically the cat is out of the bag on this one and now all we can do is slow it down and hope that a vaccine is found or that the spread can be slowed enough that our health system can cope with it.
Yes and No.
The good: Let’s say hypothetically Whitmer did that, and also say hypothetically 90% of the population obeyed it and mostly quarantined themselves for two weeks. The result would be that Michigan would be significantly better off, and most of the cases would be identified and contained come April 1. Basically, we would be resetting ourselves to say Feb 15, with the exception of a handful of known cases in hospitals/quarantined somewhere.
The bad: Even if we “reset ourselves” to Feb 15, people on other states/places would still be spreading the disease. And if the lockdown ended April 1, all of those business travelers, relatives, snow birds, etc. that had stayed away during the quarantine would return, with a portion of them infected. So basically yes Michigan would go back in time to Feb 15, but a few weeks later, we would basically return again to where we are with the disease spreading again. The only difference is that it would be spreading in April and not March.
The other thing to remember is that while the Chinese quarantine [[which was much stricter than anything that could be practically implemented here) did mostly work, the other “advantage” China has is that people [[generally) aren’t traveling to China right now. So the Chinese people who escaped infection by the quarantine are at much lower risk now of getting infected by another outbreak, because very few people [[virus carriers) are now coming to China that would bring the virus back.
Long story short, a very long quarantine is probably the only way to curtail this thing. But I don’t think there is the political will [[by the masses in general) to get behind such a thing. Especially in the USA where everyone has a more independent and self-sufficient type mindset [[for better or worse).
"They" would be the Federal Gov't. While legally I'm not certain they can enforce it, they can certainly make a directive to all states. I was just watching a National Emergency Preparedness Director [[not sure if the title is exact) on CNN. He stated it's ridiculous that the Fed. Gov't is telling all these local gov'ts and individual citizens to make their own best decisions. He stated there should be no gatherings of greater than 10-15 people until we have a handle on it. Instead you have some states saying 250 people, other 1,000 people. Meanwhile the NBA & NHL carry on? You could either request complete self-quarantine or tell people only to go out for shopping for groceries, pharmaceuticals, etc. as absolutely necessary. Nobody said this would be easy. Obviously I'm no expert but it seems apparent they need to step it up a notch or this is going to get a lot worse, meaning kill thousands more than necessary, and drag on a lot longer.
China has reported 80k cases lets say they lied to a tune of million cases that is about .0002 of their population
With over 7.9 billion people on Earth. Most nations are not ready to handle this kind of pandemic. This is what the world nations do to handle a pandemic of the keeps on infecting up to million people or more:
1. Each nation is to advise an their own nationwide quarantine procedures. Lock the whole nation up. No one should leave in or out of the area. Install military based curfews. Only open food and supply stores. Make sure that each person gets only 5 to 10 goods to last about 4 weeks at a time. All public events are closed!!!
2. Close all travel, public transportation, even international travel. Car travel will be limited as gas stations are closed for one week at a time.
3. Keep updates for news and information. If the electricity is shut off, make due whatever you can to obtain information from the outside world until power is restored.
4. If you're sick or have any health problems, go out of the alert any military personal about your sicknesses and remain in that area until medic teams arrive.
It sounds like a difficult plan but the Chinese and the Italians are doing these procedures right now.
Exactly. Because China has a centralized gov't with the power to do what is necessary in this type of event. My friend was in Shanghai a month ago and they were taking the temperature of everyone as they crossed the street and got on public transit and Shanghai is nowhere near Wuhan. Meanwhile even China admitted their hospitals were overwelmed and they built temporary ones in 2 weeks.
Key word is "confirmed". It's very possible, and perhaps likely, that there were already cases floating around undetected.
At what point does the auto show get cancelled? Design planning for it should be going on now, is that actually happening?
I'll be VERY disappointed if these events were cancelled and I was looking forward to them. Mo Pop Festival 2020 just announcing the music artist lineup on their facebook page shortly. So far,the events hasn't pull the plug yet as long the coronvirus doesn't gets even worse here in Michigan. And yes, this is a health rise and we all need to be ready to fight this.
This is almost guaranteed to be the case, and I am not just talking about people who caught it in the last day or two and haven’t been diagnosed yet.
Remember, up until very recently, doctors here in America who suspected a patient may have had the virus couldn’t even test their patient unless their patient had traveled to China, Korea, etc. [[or been in close contact with someone who had been confirmed ill). As in, the CDC would deny the doctor the ability to test unless the sick patient checked one of the “traveled to or in contact with” boxes.
That changed just recently, so expect a huge uptick in confirmed cases as doctors can now test the patients they suspect may potentially have it [[assuming tests kits don’t run out, or the testing process doesn’t become overwhelmed with cases).
Ok, beyond the hypothetical and abstract Detroit is now getting impacted:
WSU - Student spring break extended...
Michigan confirms first 2 cases of coronavirus
Michelle Obama canceling March Raly...
Michigan confirms first two positive tests
Universities Suspend Classes...
I haven't heard any of the health experts mention if microwaving kills the virus. Paper money and other items can be zapped.
Heard that one of the cases is a Ford employee [[Electrical Dept.) who was taken to U-of-M hospital. Ford may require all white-collar workers to work at home this Friday, and quite possibly for a 2-week period if cases continue to grow.
This would be a good time to unleash the military bioweapons labs on the problem. Surely they can't be underfunded if they're in the military, eh?
Ultra music festival in Miami cancelled, ticket holders can get credit for 2021 or 2022 tix, but eff you, no refunds.
Nuts. It's just another flu virus, maybe a bit deadlier for the aged [[like me) and sick. Life has to go on otherwise.
There seems to be a building stampede of closings, postponements and cancellations, large and small. This little one just came into the inbox from an Eastern Market gallery seems emblematic.
"Wasserman Projects, its staff, and artists are committed to the health and safety of our audience. Given the current situation with the coronavirus [[COVID-19) we feel it is best to cancel this Friday's opening reception of our Spring 2020 Exhibitions featuring Dorota & Steve Coy's - The Five Realms, and Adrian Wong's - Tiles, Grates, Poles, Rocks, Plants, and Veggies.
"At this time, Wasserman Projects will remain closed to the public in order to properly prepare our space for visitors - through extensive protective protocols including the installation of new hand sanitizer stations, daily cleaning of all touch surfaces, and other best practices."
the major colleges have now advised students not to return to classes after spring break. Moving or attempting to move to online classes.
https://www.theoaklandpress.com/life...05a3a433d.html
Sorry if I don't take your assessment of this, or Mr. Limbaugh very seriously. There seems to be a certain segment of our population that always wanna lessen the severity of things by making false comparisons, which is extremely foolish and deadly, especially for a person that's of age like yourself.
German Chancellor predicts a 70% infection rate in her country. With the current 2% mortality rate, that would be 4 million deaths. Is the US prepared for 4 millions deaths? Is this still anything like the typical flu to you? Are you still gonna try to convince your family and friends is ok to go about their everyday activities like there's nothing to worry about?
But I'm willing to bet this will instead decent into a hate Merkel conversation.
As of now, 5:42pm on March 11th, less then 40 people have reportedly died. That is out of a population of over 300 million. Yes, this is very scary, but at this point you have to keep it in perspective. I’m going to stick close to home for a while, avoid crowded situations if I can, and continue to live my life without freaking out, at least at this point.
At least one local nursing home is turning away all visitors for at least two weeks but that's understandable.
The portcullises are falling like anvils.
Bring out your dead [[Monty Python)
Frozen Four at LCA in April will be played without fans. Big loss of revenue for downtown business and the city.
If you want to know where these viruses "likely" originate... check out this Wuhan China "Wet Market".... warning... this is disgusting to watch... they eat everything in China... dog, cat, snake, bat... and things you can't identify....:p
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1rzgO9S5SM
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German Chancellor predicts a 70% infection rate in her country. With the current 2% mortality rate, that would be 4 million deaths.[/QUOTE]
Ahem. Not to diminish the seriousness of this but 2% of 70% of 83 million is not 4 million.
A couple of my friends from China [[who agree these markets are disgusting by the way) have said it's not the poor eating this stuff. The poor bring these animals in from rural areas to be sold in the city to the middle and upper class. It's a cultural thing that won't easily be changed. Meanwhile the poor eat mostly rice because they can't afford these "delicacies".
It appears that spectator sports are about to be down for the count. The NCAA has declared that the basketball and hockey tournaments will be played without fans. Can the NBA and the NHL be too far behind them? And I sure wouldn't count on going to Tigers opening day in a couple of weeks.
NYC has postponed their auto show originally scheduled for next month, so even though it seems far off in June I wouldn't necessarily count on the one here happening either. Movie theaters, concerts, museums, etc. seem also likely to be closed or canceled in the coming weeks.
That's right. My math stinks so I have this handy, easy-to-use percent calculator bookmarked for regular use:
percentagecalculator.net
Viruses have a mission against mankind.
1. infect
2. divide
3. KILL
We can beat these serial killers.
Well, the Stable Genius will address the country tonite. Let's see what old fucknuts has to say about this hoax, um, fake news, er, plot hatched by the deep state, or whatever.
The problem is that this thing is both non-threatening to most people, and that it is deadly or requires long-term intensive treatment for a not insignificant percentage of those who get it. It is also clearly highly contagious and pretty easily spread, even by those who are showing few or no symptoms.
So there is a particular danger of it passing from the often asymptomatic or lightly symptomatic young to the very vulnerable elderly and people with certain health problems. Perhaps en masse. Proximity to the carrier or anything they've contacted seems to be the most important factor in spreading it, thus the concentration on reducing crowds and contact. The most important thing is that we just do not have the hospital facilities to deal with the possible number of acute cases in need of intensive care, so better we do what we can to slow its spread now.
The fact that the feds have botched up the testing [[look over there at Canada, where they can now run thousands of tests a day to our hundreds), and that there are clearly many thousands more people out there carrying and potentially spreading the virus than we know about, makes it doubly imperative that we undergo some short-term suffering and inconvenience now to stop the potential for a much larger disaster.
Yes, it may all seem like an over-reaction, and if they're successful and only hundreds or a couple thousand die rather than many more, a lot of people will probably complain that they don't understand what all that fuss was about. But the people I know in the medical community, many of whom are normally quite blase, are much more spooked by the potential of this coronavirus than anything I've ever seen.
This pandemic reminds me of a small but sobering incident when we buried my father-in-law a couple years back. Didn't realize until that day at his family's plot that he'd had two siblings who died in 1918 or 1919 from the worldwide flu epidemic. It struck me that he had lived to be 95 while his "older" siblings only made it to a year or two.
The coronavirus is a just like a common cold with a kick. Young people can get the virus and have little or no symptoms and recovered quickly however as living biological inhibitors. Just a cough and a sneeze within community transmission to anyone who does not have a stronger immune system will get sicker quicker and possibly be doomed to die!
This chart from the CDC shows why the speed and intensity at which the outbreak plays out matters so much for it's consequences. What's clear here is that without pro-active protective measures, such as reducing crowds and other significant human contact points, a viral outbreak like Covid-19 for which there is no human immunity or vaccine can quickly overwhelm the health care system.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ES1h_A8X...g&name=900x900
Most Chinese people don't have enough "Yuan" dollars to buy luxury healthy and junk food [[From Wal-Mart). So they go into bazaars buy dog, cat, snake, bat and panda and make chop suey out the them. Then the viruses will come out bowels of animals and enter into their weak frail bodies and started to spread like crazy to every nation on Earth. Yes blame the Chinese for their mess. But one day they will learn their lesson when this pandemic is over and President Xi and the commie leaders answer to World Court of the U.N.
The problem is a lot of people are overlooking this key context:
Start with the 2% mortality rate, and for discussion sake let’s just say the 2% figure is correct. If you dont agree with my percentages, swap them out with your own. You will still probably end up with a big number at the end regardless.
Next, let’s talk about the others who get it but don’t die. As it has been shown, a significant portion have none or minor symptoms that at worst can be “cured” by staying home, drinking fluids, and getting some rest. Let’s say 70% [[being optimistic) fall into that category. That means the other 30% are going to need extra care. Of that 30%, maybe 15% [[again being optimistic) can be cured by minor medical assistance [[some pain drugs, additional fluids, etc). That means the other 15% [[13% who survive + 2% who don’t) will need significant medical help [[ie hospital beds, doctors, nurses, etc.)
Finally, let’s go back to the total percentage of people who get the disease. Germany thinks up to 60% of their population could get it, but I am going to continue to be optimistic and say it is only 30% in the USA.
So under my very optimistic calculations: [[330million Americans) x [[30% who get it) x [[15% who need hospital beds) = 14.8million hospital beds needed for the virus. Using the same percentages for 10 million Michigan residents results in 450,000 hospital beds. As most on here know, that bed number is about 2/3 the population of the City of Detroit, and twice the population of the City of Grand Rapids.
Think about that demand that will be needed. We have no where near that number of hospital beds, or medical staff, or IV bags, etc. Where do these people go? Who takes care of them? If the percentages are close to correct, the only solution is to slow the virus spread so people don’t all need the hospital beds at the same time. That my friends is what all of these cancellations are truly about... slowing the inevitable spread.
My family is reporting rationing of water, no TP, no meat, no bread and very limited produce at the Roseville Costco this evening.
I went out Feb 25 to stock up, and posted to this thread over on non-Detroit issues. The response varied, but most were on the opinion of the Ray1936 post above. Personally, you do you, but the folks that end up in ICU don't feel the same, and there will be shortages of beds. Persons over 60 may not get first dibs at those bed. I truly feel bad for families whose loved ones will die alone in Nursing Homes because of quarantines. We'll be studying this long after, and is an excellent stress test on our healthcare resources.
PS - Wal-Mart paying for 2 weeks sick leave and insurers are eliminating co-pays for CoVID-19 testing. "Socialism is great", as long as it's my idea and not some communist. How bout them Primary results eh?!
Many people feel that the Dodge brothers both died of the Spanish Flu in 1920... but that is not totally accurate...
Death of the Dodge Brothers
Dodge continued to expand in the following years, adding new vehicles and spread out in markets such as Canada. The Dodge brothers made millions from the sale of Ford stock and dividends, as well as from sales of their own vehicles.
The brothers died unexpectedly in 1920. Horace Dodge fell ill with pneumonia during the 1920 New York Auto Show in January. John Dodge sat by his bedside and caught pneumonia, as well. He died only 10 days later. He was 55.
Horace Dodge continued to fight his illness for many more months. He died in December of 1920 from cirrhosis of the liver. He was 52.
At the time of their death, Dodge was the second-best-selling automobile in the country. The company was sold to Chrysler in 1928.
Those patients should be in Airborne Isolation rooms. That means 100% negative airflow ALL THE TIME. If not, they risk cross contamination, and hospital-acquired infections are a HUGE problem. If I am building a hospital with 100 beds, I typically only build about 5 of those as Airborne Isolation rooms. Translation: Hospitals will have a very hard time handling a lot of critically ill patients who need to be in isolation.
The NBA has suspended it's season indefinitely. This will have a major negative impact on LCA and on the city.
It's a good idea to try to verify things like this.
The video was actually filmed in the small city of Langowan, Indonesia -- 3400 miles away.
The AP debunked it:
Video does not show Wuhan market thought to be ground zero for new virus
https://apnews.com/afs:Content:8455103990
That the video appears on YouTube, and on a channel with only 667 subscribers, should have been a tip off it's not a reliable source.
Wuhan is a modern city of 12 million and the market there doesn't look anything like that.
It's been widely reported "exotic" foods were sold there, but I'm fairly sure not everything shown in the video, and a few things that aren't.
I'm sorry... I must have missed that since I don't visit the AP webpage. Then this video should be taken down by YOUTUBE. If I would have known that the "Center for Disease Control" emblem was used illegally on that Youtube site then I never would have posted it....
I'll be sure never to visit a Indonesian restaurant.... :eek:
^^ We learned a thing or two about Langowan, Indonesia, at least. :)
I don't regularly the AP site either, BTW.
But before sharing anything potentially scandalous, shocking, or that pushes people's buttons I do try to verify it's true. And don't if I can't.
I arrived at the AP article from a google search for the terms "Langowan market Wuhan" because when I put the title of the video [[shown at the very beginning) into google translate it detected Javanese, and returned "Extream Langowan Market." I was suspicious because it didn't look anything like a major city in China to me.
The NCAA's Ice Hockey Championship, well known as the "Frozen Four" is scheduled to take place at LCA on April 9 &11. It has now been closed to the public, and may end up being cancelled.
This will cost Detroit hotels several thousand nights of room revenue and millions to local bars, restaurants, and local merchants.
Sporting events, concerts, etc...everything is likely to be cancelled. The economic impact will be astonishing.
NBA suspends season after Utah Jazz player tests positive for Covid19.
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So if anyone went to the Piston's-Jazz game at the LCA should be monitored for coronavirus.
I work for a large company downtown that has started to tell people to work from home. I was to told stay home today and Friday. My kids go to Rochester Community Schools which has closed Thursday and Friday so they can do teacher training for virtual learning.
Things seem to be escalating quickly. Hopefully it all blows over. I've told my elderly parents that I'm cutting off physical contact with them for now and suggested my siblings do the same.
Good luck everyone.
This too will pass. This will be solved. But not without a lot of disruption in our lives and damage to the economy.
By summer the trajectory of the epidemic will be clearer as will progress toward potential vaccines and treatments. The economy will go into recession with lower business earnings with higher unemployment.
Short term, and for right now, there will be high volatility - in markets and in people's and institution's behavior.
Get ready. Be strong. Pull together.
From the reading I've done, this particular virus comes from eating and using parts of the Pangolin, which is an anteater type animal with scaly skin. Ugliest thing I've seen in a while. SARS came from eating Civet cat, which is like skunk. Both animals get it from bats. Now these diseases are not contagious from animal to human unless you eat them. There are fines and jail time for doing this in China, but the people who eat them believe they will have benefits beyond food, like curing menstrual cramps and enlarging penises, so they obtain and eat them at risk of going to jail. It's nuts.
Everyone is finally catching on it appears, mostly because they were forced to cancel events by state or local gov'ts. Meanwhile Florida, possibly the least prepared state due to the high numbers of senior citizens and foreign visitors, carries on with spring training baseball, a PGA golf tournament today, Disney and other theme parks operating as usual.
I don’t recommend it.
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Not sure on the least prepared aspect,I have a choice of 16 clinics within a 8 mile radius in which I can go for no cost testing or care in relation to.
We are largely a tourist driven state and millions of service workers that are a crucial part of running it,it is hard to tell them to stay home for an unknown period of time without pay.
The ones that qualify for food assistance received an extra $500 in order to stock up in case.
A majority of the elderly are centered in click locations,outside of the villages which covers 1000s of acres they are not really mingling in the general population to start with.
For the most part all of their family members are up north and rarely even visit them so their exposure level is probably lower then most.
Florida deals with hurricanes,tornadoes,alligators and millions of other critters and after hurricane Andrew actually set the standard for the EOC that is used in every city in the country,we are prepared but not going to freak out until it is necessary.
We live 365 days out of the year being prepared for anything and are geared for fast reaction when necessary by nature,probably more prepared then any other state because it is second nature as a part of living here.
Not meaning to disrespect the sunshine state! I should have said "most susceptible" rather than "least prepared". I meant in terms of the number of intensive care hospital beds with respirators per capita that will be needed should it get into the senior population. As a pre-caution I think it's crazy they are going on with these large gathering events in Florida, although MLB finally woke up and cancelled spring training effective immediately.
Lol no disrespect taken.
Because of the large retirement population there is also a larger percentage of medical facilities in place then most places,but that is why they directed everybody to the clinics,in order to keep the hospital beds freed up.
There is a major hospital 3 miles from me that has had 3 complete floors that have been empty for the last 5 years because they sprout up like beans.
Last year the flu overwhelmed the UKs health system to the breaking point and beyond,if it gets that bad you can bet no city or state will be able to deal with it.
But if it gets to that point there are lots of large stadiums etc. or buildings that they can turn into emergency containment centers.
They have been running these situations sense the Cold War they know how to deal with it on a massive scale,the unknown factor is the panic mode.
But the flu was viewed as just the flu and even though it can be spread just like this thing,there was no containment strategies,stopped flights etc.
They showed how it attacked the lungs with xrays,the flu did it as a large clump where as this thing kinda flattens out and coats a larger surface like putting a coating over the surface which restricts the lungs ability to absorb oxygen.
And they still do not know how it mutates in its jump from person to person.
That is why it is tricky,every person reacts differently according to how it mutates.Makes it hard to get a one size fits all cure.That is what I am gathering from it all anyways.
That is what is fueling the panic in the markets and streets,the unknown,once they figure out what drives it then they can get it in check and it will be back to business to usual,no need to freak out over the unknown.
This is one of the better utube videos out there on the virus, worth sharing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rb94GXQVEKQ
It doesn't matter how many clinics you have nearby or the cost of the test if when you request one it's denied.
According to the Florida Department of Health any request for a test must be approved by the local County Health Department. To be approved the patient must meet the strict criteria put in place by the CDC to be considered a "person under investigation." To be a PUI one of three combinations must apply:
1) You have a fever OR lower respiratory symptoms AND have been in recent close contact with a laboratory-confirmed infected patient;
2) You have a fever AND lower respiratory symptoms AND recently traveled to China, Korea, Italy, Iran, or Japan;
3) You have a fever AND acute lower respiratory symptoms requiring hospitalization AND all alternative diagnoses have been exhausted [[such as flu).
That's why only 484 Floridians have thus far been tested. 0.002% of the population. 1 in 44,000. 7 per county. According to the State of Florida itself.
It doesn't matter if you or Trump and Pence say everyone who wants a test can get one if the evidence on the ground proves otherwise.
Besides, even if the COVID-19 test, if it is ultimately approved, comes at no cost what about the costs of hospitalization and all the tests to disprove every other possible diagnosis that must come first? How do people with no insurance or bad insurance pay for that? It can cost $3270 just for a flu test in Miami, with no hospitalization. If someone can't afford good insurance can they afford that?
Not sure what you mean by click location, but almost every one of my relatives who retired moved to Florida, or they have a second home there. They're all in their 70's and 80's except the ones who have passed. Not one of them has lived in the Villages. They live or lived among the general public. They go to the gym, stores, restaurants, coffeeshops, and doctor's offices, just like everyone else. They're at very high risk.
^ right because your relations represent the majority.
Ever been to Sun City or Haines City or any of the other massive retirement communities that are all over the state when the majority are?
Last thing somebody wants to do on retirement is move into a regular neighborhood and deal with the neighborhood munchkins running around yelling all day,then you have to spend all day yelling at them to keep off of the grass.
Most Mobile home parks and community are 55 and up with gate guards and most of the other large retirement community’s are filled with nosy busybodies from across the country that know every single person as soon as they enter that space,and what they ate for dinner the night before,you ain’t sneaking no virus past them.
Retirees gravitate towards other retirees because of common interests.
It stands to reason that the state would regulate who visits and the guidelines for going to the clinic.
Imagine the nightmare of everybody that sneezes automatically freaks out and heads to the clinic.
I was in the bar the other day having lunch and somebody came in to pick up a to go order,they sneezed and jokingly made a reply about the virus.
10 minutes later the police showed up with masks and gloves looking for the guy.Granted it was in poor taste of a joke.
On post #4 of this thread, way back yesterday morning, I suggested shutting down everything but essential services, grocery and pharmacy stores and quarantining for 2 weeks. A day later we have all events cancelled, schools closed, people working from home. My idea still sounding so "out there"?
I think Detroit is fortunate that the Auto Show was moved from end of January to Spring. The first case of the virus was reported to the WHO on Dec 31. Had the autoshow taken place earlier this year, I feel it's likely Detroit would have been an epicenter.
not personally,but yeppers,for every action there is a reaction.
What do the working parents do now that they are at work and the children are at home? And this all targets the ones least effected by it all.
But history shows us the judgment will come with hindsite.
Wow, a third case has already been confirmed. https://www.freep.com/story/news/loc...se/5037390002/
Rochester Community Schools has closed indefinitely and will do online learning in the interim.
^^^ It's official: ALL Michigan K12 Primary Schools closed thru April 6th as announced by governor Whitmer:
https://twitter.com/GovWhitmer?ref_s...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Tonight, I [Gov. Whitmer] announced that in order to slow the spread of COVID-19 in Michigan, I am ordering the closure of all K-12 school buildings to students starting Monday, March 16 until Sunday, April 5. School buildings are scheduled to reopen on Monday, April 6.
https://www.wxyz.com/national/corona...virus-concerns
This is all he does.....I suppose he'll blame the stock market plunge on Obama too.
For decades the @CDCgov
looked at, and studied, its testing system, but did nothing about it. It would always be inadequate and slow for a large scale pandemic, but a pandemic would never happen, they hoped. President Obama made changes that only complicated things further.....
6:22 AM · Mar 13, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
.... Their response to H1N1 Swine Flu was a full scale disaster, with thousands dying, and nothing meaningful done to fix the testing problem, until now. The changes have been made and testing will soon happen on a very large scale basis. All Red Tape has been cut, ready to go!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...10044263333894
For the last month he's been downplaying it as a hoax and fake news by the "do nothing Democrats." Too little too late Donald. Maybe, had he taken it seriously to begin with, we may not be in the mess we are now.
The man is nothing but 400 pounds of ignorant orange pus. The sooner he dies---please God!---or is voted out, the better.
And why am I even calling Trump a man?? I mean, really, what real man spends hours coiffing his hair and applying makeup?? Jeezus. Makes the chest-beating by this draft-dodging pussy even more insufferable. As the ex-police chief of Boston [[a Nam vet) once said of Trump: "He's a guy who never took a punch." That's the most amazing thing to me---that, throughout Trump's entire life, nobody ever kicked this fucker's ass, especially with all the NY contractors he screwed over. Probably couldn't get past the security detail this POS has had since he was delivering newspapers from his daddy's limo.
I just hope Donny boy winds up like Weinstein and gets 23 years in the slammer, though I seriously doubt it. Like Stalin, he'll probably die comfortably in his own bed. But who knows? Maybe he'll meet his end like Gaddafi, surrounded by a mob of the people he fucked over and with a broomstick up his lard ass.
Alot could backfire... and the law brought in as people start to GO ON THE NUT!
I've heard the main problem with closing down schools is you are making it difficult for parents to work. Doctors, nurses, paramedics, firefighters, and police are included in that number. Children are at low risk from the disease to begin with.
So it's probably a bad decision.
Source: Michael Olsterholm on the Joe Rogan podcast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3URhJx0NSw&t=13s
I have a theory about that based on a kid in grade school whose psychology matched Trump's exactly. This kid had a reputation for being the worst behaved kid in the entire school. He was thrilled to provoke teachers into chasing him around the room.
Trump doesn't just want his ass kicked. He wants it devastated so badly that he can't respond. The reason he's so relentlessly provocative is that he hasn't yet found the person who will do that — despite his lifelong search. I suspect it's some warped attempt to recover the attention he never received as a child.
Here's a prediction that might surprise: If he ever does succeed in his quest to find that person, he will fawn over them like a loyal puppy. That's the person he's been seeking all his life.
It's just a really sad situation.
If you close the schools, stop sporting events, cancel rallies,....how long does the Governor leave the casinos open ? Seems to me they should be closing Monday too, if not now, especially considering the age of much of their patrons.