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2013 Mustang GT convertible with an automatic,,,
$39,900? seriously?
it had $4,000 something in options [[rims, pedestal rear spoiler, convertible top convenience group)...
sticker SHOCK at $44,000+
it is a nice car by all counts but jeez is it pricey....
The Big Three have always had the philosophy that when you sell sex instead of transportation you can increase the markup.
Camaro nicer,
Or big boy toys aka full size SUV's and trucks. I remember when a pick up was good transportation and cheaper than cars. Not no more..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermod
I'm guessing I could buy that Mustang for about 37,500. That's 12,500 more than in 1995. Inflation ya know.... ;)
find another convertible with that performance for less. The Camaro SS is essentially the same price [[maybe 1K more with the auto, the optional rims start
at $4700)
I'd spend and extra $5K and get the Boss 302 Laguna Seca
Who would want a Mustang with an automatic transmission?
Same person who would want a V6 Mustang.Quote:
Originally Posted by scottn55
What?! I can get a new base V6 for twenty grand. Automatic adds another grand to the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by JBMcB
There's nothing else out there that offers that much bang for the buck and at the price of a regular DD. And back in January when I last checked, Ford credit was offering 100% financing at 0%. If I bought a Boss or Cobra, I'd have to garage it half the year and use a second car or truck in the winter because I'd be scared to get salt on it. What's your DD?
To put this in perspective, the higher number is about what my house is worth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ltdave
Sorry, I'll take the house and my 22 year old car. Big 3, you so stupid.
Not too many 25 yr. olds buying muscle cars anymore. The Big 3 finally realized the profit is in selling half the number of these fully loaded beasts to baby boomers and those guys having their mid-life crisis.
I second your motion.Quote:
Originally Posted by 401don
Demographics are showing that most youngsters are not getting their drivers license until much later. It ain't the 1960's anymore and most youngsters don't make the kind of money it takes to buy a new Kia or Fiat 500 let alone a car loaded with horsepower and a convertible top.
Like it or not to many in this demographic are not able to afford all of the entrapments that they find necessary [[smart phones, ipads, laptops, cable) that those in the 1960's did not even think about. Add to this the cost of a new car, it means they go upmarket and compete with the high end Buicks.
Not to mention many young folks nowadays don't find any cars appealing at all, and ironically find good mass transit sexier. Wouldn't count on it being a passing fad, either...Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner
Sounds like a very high line version. Probably slower than the plainer but lighter and more fun to drive 6 speed coupe with the 5.0 V8 which can be had for $29k out the door all over.
Its a Mustang V8, who really needs a drop top, a factory sat/nav and mood lighting ?
Boss 302 is probably north of 45 grand with ADM's, Laguna Seca Boss 302, outta sight $.
Of course you can get a bad ass 3-5 year old Shelby GT500 with 10-20k miles for 30-40 grand, that is THEE high line Mustang and really the only one worth owning. Having a factory supercharged Stang myself I may be a bit biased.
I guess you can always get a KIA for 20 or 30 grand. :rolleyes:
People do realize this is a niche car and Ford isn't going to producing as many of these as say the Focus or Fusion?
A bus is not quite the chick magnet that a Mustang drop top would be. Could it be that there is a causal realationship that more youngsters are going for bikes and the bus because they can't aford the car and all them fancy gadgets?Quote:
Originally Posted by poobert
'Way back when, we couldn't afford them either. That's why Baby Boomers are hot for them now.
We drove things like, ooh, '53 Chevys, '60 Nash Ramblers, humongous old Chryslers, things you could buy for a couple hundred dollars and still afford plates and insurance, and gas to get around. We just drooled over the Vettes, the T-Birds, the Mustangs...
With a lot of younger urban professional and creative class folks nowadays, you almost have to be apologetic about having a car, especially if you have one that's more than basic transit, to the effect that a cab is sexier than a Mustang drop top.
An F-Body, on the other hand.... :D
You indeed conjur an image of DDOT, with all its clankety, fart-smellin', late-runnin' action. However when you're a young person in Portland or Seattle and you can smugly sip your latte and say you don't own a car because of your concern for the environment, well, you're not going to have a problem getting some action of your own. I don't think a nice car has as much sex appeal as a nice loft [[or any living space deemable to be hip, really) or hanging out at fashionable places.Quote:
Originally Posted by DetroitPlanner
I'm probably somewhere in the middle, along with millions of other young-ish people. Cars are very convenient to have, awful to have to rely on for everything, and generally a pain in the ass with gas and repairs.
However: women still love guys with motorcycles. Never forget that.
I think there was a generational shift at some point recently where a "cool car" wasn't really important to younger people, male or female. At least not as much as to generations prior.Quote:
Originally Posted by poobert
I've never noticed much interest in cars with people I know in the "more educated" crowd. Maybe some people like a nice Mercedes or BMW or something. Never any interest in a Mustang or Camaro or something like that. Most interest in those were from people who became mechanics or worked more "manual labor" type of jobs.
And there's certainly nothing wrong with that. My cousin, who is a DPW supervisor, really loves his late 90s Mustang. Seems to really enjoy keeping it immaculate and cruising on weekends.
Elephant Parts!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroitnerd
Don Hiddioso's [[Bill Martin aka William E. Martin, songwriter [[Nilsson's Rainmaker) screenwriter [[harry & the hendersons, 3rd rock from the sun) bit is now applicable to the Republican Party
I must admit driving a Mustang as a stick would be better [[I drove sticks for 16 years)... but then you do get tired of shifting and well....
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Originally Posted by scottn55
I drove a 1953 Hudson Jet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gazhekwe
The true hooptie of my high school years that some of my friends had was the 1949-1951 Kaiser. They would be totally rusted out with one foot holes in the side panels, but the little Continental engines in them just ran and ran. You could buy one for about $99.00 and get liability insurance on them for $50.00 a year.
First of all I personally think it meant for us OLD guys....like me, we have had our days with sticks and a base Corvette is $49600 so a Mustang is a deal....I've had my younger days driving a stick and I'm old, the knees can't take the shifting and I still love a sports car which is why I just bought this 2000 Corvette....with an Automatic. So I think that is the demographic they are trying to get. Go to any car show....all you see is us old guys and our cars.....but we love it.
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The famous or infamous Hudson jet. Mine was a two-tone light green and dark green.
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This will look like a huge bargain in a few years. The new mileage and EPA rules will make V8s a thing of the past. They will either be incredibly expensive, if not completely unavailable.
^^Thats one of many reasons why I went for a Northstar, slightly used. I knew the days of affordably purchasing a V8 were soon to be long gone. Performance tends to be sacrificed for higher mileage.
I was thisclose to buying the Camero SS instead of the Caddy, back in 09' right after they were redesigned. Then I went to the Autoshow and fell in love with the Challenger, which had more power and way more room for Amazons like me. But 41k fully loaded...
My dad talked me out of it, by telling me what his dad told him...
"When you look at the parking lots at these autoplants, what are those car guys driving? Buicks, Lincolns, Cadillacs, right? Thats because those are poorman's cars. They're built to last when you take care of them, and they'll last you the rest of your life depending. Now those flashy sports cars? Those are richman's cars, cuz you'd have to be rich to afford to keep fixin those high performing pieces of shit."
Amen Grampa.
Which is probably one of the reasons that explains why Ford is bringing back the 4 cyl, 2.0L Mustang in 2015. http://www.inautonews.com/its-offici...coboost-engineQuote:
Originally Posted by ndavies
Ford should make a Mustang Hybrid... & a convertible one too!
I understand that a hybrid is in the works
Buddy of mine from high school used to have that mid-80s turbo four Anniversary Edition that I had some fun driving...and the old SVO is legendary.Quote:
Originally Posted by davewindsor
I'd be very eager to take one of these for a test drive...without all that weight hanging over the front wheels, it should be more nimble with turn-ins and transitions.
I'm also curious to drive that turbo-3 they are reportedly bringing in from Europe...perhaps for the Focus?
Gotta say the latest Stang is pretty bad a$$. The tailights alone have me sold! :cool:
The 2015 Stang redesign is kind of a trip back to 1985 with the turbo 4 banger and 5.0 Litre V8.
I dont see the V8 going out of the Stang for awhile. Especially with the best V8 engine since sliced bread the Coyote V8. Probably why Ford is building twin turbo 6 cylinder pick-up trucks and 1.0 Litre 3 Cylinder Fiesta's. Above average MPG in 90% of vehicles leaves 10% for gas guzzling and money/reputation making niche market cars.
I do like the 2015 style, the late model retro Stang style has become a bit long in the tooth.
The Challenger is the best looking out of the three.Quote:
Originally Posted by GUSHI
I like some of the "educated guesses" I've seen, but some are gawdawfulQuote:
Originally Posted by downtown_racine
I try to like Mustangs but for some reason the biggest .........s seem to not only drive one, but insist on bragging around driving one. It makes me feel bad for the old schoolers who are actually into muscle cars. Gives them a bad name.